from Seeds to Seedlings in Soil (play-by-play)

[HushemFlupskluk]

Great show thanks. Did you use fertilizer in that dirt after sprouting? I so learned that no fertilizer is needed for the seedlings until about 2 weeks after sprouting ( cant remember exactly how long no fertilizer is needed but im sure im close)

 

[Shmavis]

That's not bad! Left me feeling inspired. Gotta get those roots looking better on my end. I'm going to try out the hydrogen peroxide on my next watering... Would that completely fuck up a true living soil though? I just thought of that as I was typing this. I've got my plants in a super soil right now. Took me a month to make... To "cook"... So I don't wanna kill all the beneficial bacteria in there with the hydrogen peroxide. Although, would it work in a bubble cloner?

That’s a valid concern. I shouldn’t have been so quick to suggest adding it, apologies.

I’m not up to speed on super soils. So I’d hold off on adding hydrogen peroxide until you can get a better understanding of the effect it would/might have on your specific mix... maybe an organic soil guru will chime in... add some maxicrop and superthrive to start... pretty sure you’ll see favorable results.

Can’t imagine there’d be a problem adding it to a bubble cloner. Would think it a good idea, actually.

Thanks for inspiring me!

Great show thanks. Did you use fertilizer in that dirt after sprouting? I so learned that no fertilizer is needed for the seedlings until about 2 weeks after sprouting ( cant remember exactly how long no fertilizer is needed but im sure im close)

Hi HF, (& Thanks)

I was eleven days from pop when I transplanted into SOLO cups. Before the cups I was in a weaker mix of equal parts: OF, LW & Perlite. Then the Fox Farm recipe at transplant. So no real addition of fertilizers, per se. Just nutritional bursts through transplants. Plenty of fertilizers in the mix. Adding just water works fine. And is probably advised to begin. Then one has a baseline from which to evaluate future runs. Future runs that could be supplemented in minor adjustments/supplements.

Happy growing!

 

[PersonalProvide]

Thank you for sharing. Looks like a real successful method. Hope they flourish for you!

 

[Pyrosis]

Awesome grow looking forward to an update

 

[chronosync]

Very good! And thorough! Thanks for making this thread, I love seeing different methods and processes plus I just got into seeds and I need a better way than what I'm doing so far.

What's next?

 

[Shmavis]

Thank you for sharing. Looks like a real successful method. Hope they flourish for you!

Thanks PersoanlProvide. Sorry for my tardiness, just saw your post.

Awesome grow looking forward to an update

Hi Pyrosis — welcome to the site!

No updates. These babies made it no further than the SOLO cups. Never intended for them to. This was just a germination test for some beans I made a few years ago. Just wanted to see how they’d do and what I might see in them. Still have 25+ beans. They should all be female. Do kind of wish I’d kept one that was darker and fatter leaved. She had a nice smell as well. Oh well, more beans than time

Very good! And thorough! Thanks for making this thread, I love seeing different methods and processes plus I just got into seeds and I need a better way than what I'm doing so far.

Thanks a lot for stopping in chronosync! And you’re welcome. Glad you liked it. I was only going to document the pop for my records, but then thought I’d go ahead and share it, in hopes that others might find it helpful. Especially new/first time growers. It means a lot to me that it's appreciated.

What's next?

This season I’m working on determining how much of a wattage heat load I can control in my room without air-cooled hoods, or a mini-split. Running some experiments with CO2 and ventilation while trying to stay within VPD target ranges. Pretty much expected to be installing a mini this spring. Now strongly considering replacing my HID with LED... don’t want to change my method or medium during these experiments - don’t want to introduce too many variables. Once I make a firm decision on which way to go and have my room’s environment under control... I’m going to try to get a better understanding of organic soil mixes. Gonna try some of dank.frank’s recipes and give Ph-patrol’s mix a whirl too. None of that’s likely to happen until next fall though. Lots to learn first!

Happy growing folks!

 

[DanDanger]

Nice! Now I'm always adding just a tad of Hydrogen Peroxide to the bubble cloner. Never the soil though!

 

[Shmavis]

Nice! Now I'm always adding just a tad of Hydrogen Peroxide to the bubble cloner. Never the soil though!

Ha! So did you find out that that would be a big no-no?

Just watered this girl Friday with 1/3 cup added to a gallon. Pic was taken Saturday. She doesn’t seem to be complaining! (maybe tonight at lights-on I’ll find her in the fetal position... but I doubt it )

Have you seen this thread yet DD? I still haven’t went back and started from the beginning but what little I saw of the recent posts makes my roots look PATHETIC! Thought of you when I saw it.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=31574

 

[aridbud]

The trick is to use hydrogen peroxide in moderation.

From 420 Magazine:
SUPER-ENRICH YOUR WATER WITH OXYGEN

Super-enriching your water with oxygen is a very simple process. All it requires is adding one(1) pint hydrogen peroxide to one(1) gallon water, shake well(vigorously for about five(5) seconds), and allow it to sit over night. The reason this enriches the water with oxygen is simple. Water is two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom, H2O. Hydrogen peroxide is H2O2, or water with an extra atom of oxygen. When H2O2 is added to H2O, the extra atom in the hydrogen peroxide attaches itself to bacteria and impurities in the water, thereby disinfecting it. After most impurities have been eliminated, you are left with a water-hydrogen peroxide mix. When added to your plants the extra oxygen in the hydrogen peroxide attaches to the roots, helps increase nutrient uptake, and increases plant growth by 30%.

TIPS TO HELP

The following are a few simple tips to remember that will help increase the amount of oxygen in your soil:

1. Aerate the soil with bulky and water holding material such as peat moss, bark, vermiculite, rocks, and perlite.

2. Always wait until your plants absolutely need water, then thoroughly saturate with water. This will allow water to drain completely through, and pulls oxygen down through the top of the soil.

3. Super-enrich your water with oxygen by adding one(1) pint hydrogen peroxide to one(1) gallon water, shake vigorously for five(5) seconds, and allow to sit over night.

4. Apply the usage of aeration, and as long as you keep the plants other needs met you can increase growth by up to 20%-30%.

Works for us!

 

[Shmavis]

The trick is to use hydrogen peroxide in moderation.

From 420 Magazine:
SUPER-ENRICH YOUR WATER WITH OXYGEN

Super-enriching your water with oxygen is a very simple process. All it requires is adding one(1) pint hydrogen peroxide to one(1) gallon water, shake well(vigorously for about five(5) seconds), and allow it to sit over night. The reason this enriches the water with oxygen is simple. Water is two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom, H2O. Hydrogen peroxide is H2O2, or water with an extra atom of oxygen. When H2O2 is added to H2O, the extra atom in the hydrogen peroxide attaches itself to bacteria and impurities in the water, thereby disinfecting it. After most impurities have been eliminated, you are left with a water-hydrogen peroxide mix. When added to your plants the extra oxygen in the hydrogen peroxide attaches to the roots, helps increase nutrient uptake, and increases plant growth by 30%.

TIPS TO HELP

The following are a few simple tips to remember that will help increase the amount of oxygen in your soil:

1. Aerate the soil with bulky and water holding material such as peat moss, bark, vermiculite, rocks, and perlite.

2. Always wait until your plants absolutely need water, then thoroughly saturate with water. This will allow water to drain completely through, and pulls oxygen down through the top of the soil.

3. Super-enrich your water with oxygen by adding one(1) pint hydrogen peroxide to one(1) gallon water, shake vigorously for five(5) seconds, and allow to sit over night.

4. Apply the usage of aeration, and as long as you keep the plants other needs met you can increase growth by up to 20%-30%.

Works for us!

Finally. A Guru speaks in support.

I Thank YOU, good sir!

 

[aridbud]

What some may dispute....it does need to be diluted (as my PM message to you), not straight from the bottle and important, sit overnight. When diluted and used sparingly (not every watering...we do every 4th watering), you'll see results!

To make 3% food grade H2O2 from 35% food grade H2O2, use a ratio of 1:10.5. For example, put 1 TABLEspoon of 35% hydrogen peroxide into a glass jar and then put 10 1/2 TABLEspoons of distilled water into the glass jar and then mix them together.

I wish you a great grow/harvest!

 

[Shmavis]

It’s Sunday night. I’m high as hell. And maybe a bit drunk. So I’m not sure, but do you mean the 3% pictured in my first picture of this thread is not recommended?

I not only let it sit overnight, but I bubble my water. From a 20 gallon garbage pail I fill one gallon containers. To which I then add the hydrogen peroxide. It then sits for at least twenty-four hours. And I only do this - add hydrogen peroxide - about every third watering.

I’m pretty sure I’m within the confines of moderation. Your post suggests one pint (2 cups) per gallon. I’m only adding 1/3 of a cup.

(Hard to know just how specific to be with all this when the intent is to be simple and straightforward. I probably should’ve been a little more specific about the importance of water prep...)

Thanks a lot for adding to the discussion, airbud!!

Should I be using some other form of hydrogen peroxide? The talk of 35% has me kind of confused. I just remember that I was to use 3%... ?