DrJay2001 said:
have you seen pics of Bacchus{from OG} garden?
his trainwreck? numerous posts on og i was refering to the same genetics so.....
is your reply still the same?
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have you seen pics of Bacchus{from OG} garden?
his trainwreck? numerous posts on og i was refering to the same genetics so.....
is your reply still the same?
DrJay2001
now at peace
Bacchus and the Texas Resin Company Boys produced a cross of an Alaskan Train Wreck and Sweet Tooth #4. I have one in my garden. They call it Texas Mystic and I call ours Alibi. I have a thread going that details the strain. In short, it's a very good mix with lots of weak phenos and some really good ones.
Here's bud shots of Humboldt Train Wreck versus Alibi. The TRC cross is less potent and doesn't taste at all like Wreck. It's a good strain in its own right.
Yours,
Dr. jay
Here's bud shots of Humboldt Train Wreck versus Alibi. The TRC cross is less potent and doesn't taste at all like Wreck. It's a good strain in its own right.
Yours,
Dr. jay
but was the beans bacchus had the kind you said were going around crossed with big bud?
i got the same beans bacchus has.....lovely plant whatever the hell it is,except the little whore sometimes cross dresses
i had the texas mystic.....i dont care for it compared to the TW
i got both from bacchus
generous chap real polite to me and all ever since we both joined OG
my real issue was simply do i want to cross this and send it off as Trainwreck X "???" and really it's composed of more than just that
i have such a wonderful cross in mind too!
i got the same beans bacchus has.....lovely plant whatever the hell it is,except the little whore sometimes cross dresses
i had the texas mystic.....i dont care for it compared to the TW
i got both from bacchus
generous chap real polite to me and all ever since we both joined OG
my real issue was simply do i want to cross this and send it off as Trainwreck X "???" and really it's composed of more than just that
i have such a wonderful cross in mind too!
DrJay2001
now at peace
Like I said Bacchus and the TRC crossed an Alaskan Wreck with Sweet Tooth #4 to make Texas Mystic which we call Alibi.
I like Alibi (new pics soon) but I swear it's nothing like Train Wreck. It's become my daytime or social choice but it isn't in the same league as Train Wreck.
We backcrossed a Bacchus TM male to our Humboldt Train Wreck and got a few seeds (only 10!) but those should prove interesting. We're waiting till the move and a green house to pop them.
Yours,
Dr. Jay
I like Alibi (new pics soon) but I swear it's nothing like Train Wreck. It's become my daytime or social choice but it isn't in the same league as Train Wreck.
We backcrossed a Bacchus TM male to our Humboldt Train Wreck and got a few seeds (only 10!) but those should prove interesting. We're waiting till the move and a green house to pop them.
Yours,
Dr. Jay
What's the difference...
What's the difference...
DrJay, what's the difference between the Alaskan Train Wreck and the Humbolt Train Wreck? I've also heard of an Arcata(sp) Train Wreck, is this the same as the Humbolt?
You mentioned a cross that you're thinking about doing with Your Train Wreck and Black Domina. Now this sounds like a killer combination. If you ever get seeds of this or if you're able to self your Train Wreck at some point let me know. There aren't too many people I'd trust getting seeds from, but you're definately one.
Keep those lovely pictures and these great threads coming.
Peace,
GreatLakes THC
What's the difference...
DrJay, what's the difference between the Alaskan Train Wreck and the Humbolt Train Wreck? I've also heard of an Arcata(sp) Train Wreck, is this the same as the Humbolt?
You mentioned a cross that you're thinking about doing with Your Train Wreck and Black Domina. Now this sounds like a killer combination. If you ever get seeds of this or if you're able to self your Train Wreck at some point let me know. There aren't too many people I'd trust getting seeds from, but you're definately one.
Keep those lovely pictures and these great threads coming.
Peace,
GreatLakes THC
CitrusHigh
Member
You got me hooked
You got me hooked
I read this thread from front post to end post and I'm absolutely titilated, tell me what's gonna happen next.....Actually tranwreck comes around here where I live, the Twin Cities, MN. And everytime it does, you hear horror stories of people tweaking and/or throwing up allegedly due to the consumption of this mystic strain. I'm feeling kind of left out, seems like everyone's tried some version of it but me. Anyhow, I'm as interested as anyone here on what you develop, look forward to see things unfold. Keep up the great work.
Citrus
You got me hooked
I read this thread from front post to end post and I'm absolutely titilated, tell me what's gonna happen next.....Actually tranwreck comes around here where I live, the Twin Cities, MN. And everytime it does, you hear horror stories of people tweaking and/or throwing up allegedly due to the consumption of this mystic strain. I'm feeling kind of left out, seems like everyone's tried some version of it but me. Anyhow, I'm as interested as anyone here on what you develop, look forward to see things unfold. Keep up the great work.
Citrus
DrJay2001
now at peace
Train Wreck Notes
I think Arcata and Humboldt Wreck are the same. Some call it Arcata Wreck because the club there used it almost exclusively for awhile.
I don't know how the Humboldt strain differs from the Alaskan. TRC might know that. The key difference between Alibi and Wreck is that Alibi (Mystic) is a cross with SWT#4. Yes, I'd love to cross the Wreck with Black Domina but only have one girl :-( so we're looking for a male from our LSD#4 or the Sensi Star x Apollo.
I keep my Train Wreck in a glass fronted box on the wall that reads "break in emergency". The Alibi is just great for regular use. Here's a new pic of Alibi that shows that while it isn't Wreck it sure is nice.
Yours,
Dr. jay
I think Arcata and Humboldt Wreck are the same. Some call it Arcata Wreck because the club there used it almost exclusively for awhile.
I don't know how the Humboldt strain differs from the Alaskan. TRC might know that. The key difference between Alibi and Wreck is that Alibi (Mystic) is a cross with SWT#4. Yes, I'd love to cross the Wreck with Black Domina but only have one girl :-( so we're looking for a male from our LSD#4 or the Sensi Star x Apollo.
I keep my Train Wreck in a glass fronted box on the wall that reads "break in emergency". The Alibi is just great for regular use. Here's a new pic of Alibi that shows that while it isn't Wreck it sure is nice.
Yours,
Dr. jay
Damn...
Damn...
Man i gotta try some of that Wreck.
GreatLakes THC
Damn...
Man i gotta try some of that Wreck.
GreatLakes THC
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Man I don't believe you followed me.
1.I didn't care for the Texas Mystic it was okay but not MY cup of tea.So I don't care if it was called "man in the moon" ........"Trainwreck X Swt #4" is not my friend.
2. The Train Wreck that bacchus has,I have as well.....
3. you answered one of my other Q's already.
so you know of no difference between the "alaskan" version and the humbolt?
and im not talking TM im talking TW,I have the "Alaskan Train wreck"
the only reason im persuing info more persistantly is because i want the REAL version.......so when i make my Hybrids i know exactly what they are!
but back to the Alibi or Texas Mystic i never understood why swt#3 wasn't used instead? or maybe a cross with bogs Bogglegum
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1.I didn't care for the Texas Mystic it was okay but not MY cup of tea.So I don't care if it was called "man in the moon" ........"Trainwreck X Swt #4" is not my friend.
2. The Train Wreck that bacchus has,I have as well.....
3. you answered one of my other Q's already.
so you know of no difference between the "alaskan" version and the humbolt?
and im not talking TM im talking TW,I have the "Alaskan Train wreck"
the only reason im persuing info more persistantly is because i want the REAL version.......so when i make my Hybrids i know exactly what they are!
but back to the Alibi or Texas Mystic i never understood why swt#3 wasn't used instead? or maybe a cross with bogs Bogglegum
later
that pic of alibi looks exactly how my texas mystic looked before the cure.
i love the TW all the red hairs the smell......it's something else
i love the TW all the red hairs the smell......it's something else
DrJay2001
now at peace
"What is the difference between Alaskan and Humboldt Train Wreck"
That's a great question and I don't know the answer. The only knowledge I have of the "Alaskan" version is in the TRC cross and it's real hard to see any Wreck in that cross. I'm not familiar with the Alaskan strain by itself.
Yours,
dr. Jay
That's a great question and I don't know the answer. The only knowledge I have of the "Alaskan" version is in the TRC cross and it's real hard to see any Wreck in that cross. I'm not familiar with the Alaskan strain by itself.
Yours,
dr. Jay
and Im not familiar with the humbolt version!
bean exchange?
bean exchange?
Because Lonestar and myself had not had good result with Bogs bogglegum. I personally enjoy SW#4 much more than SW#3.Tropical Rain said:....but back to the Alibi or Texas Mystic i never understood why swt#3 wasn't used instead? or maybe a cross with bogs Bogglegum
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Tropical...since you have some of the origianl beans why don't you do a cross with something you favor???
DrJay2001
now at peace
Hey Bacchus, I know this is my Train Wreck thread not a Texas Mystic thread but I gotta thank you once again as the Mystic (or Alibi) or Red Point or whatever is getting better and better and closer to the Wreck in potency. Here's a newly harvested budsky that shows the resin.
Yours,
Dr. jay
Yours,
Dr. jay
but bacchus you know i shall
a cross is in order a few actually!
i just need a little bit more time.
maybe i'll even do the TW X swt#3 i have some around here somewhere..............
im not knocking the Tm im just saying that it didn't out-do the TW......and i think maybe i went into the grow expecting it would?
or maybe the bean i had was a paticular bad pheno?
and bacchus when i do the Hybrids......you'll have first choice over whatever beans i get in the outcome
a cross is in order a few actually!
i just need a little bit more time.
maybe i'll even do the TW X swt#3 i have some around here somewhere..............
im not knocking the Tm im just saying that it didn't out-do the TW......and i think maybe i went into the grow expecting it would?
or maybe the bean i had was a paticular bad pheno?
and bacchus when i do the Hybrids......you'll have first choice over whatever beans i get in the outcome
G
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Maybe I can help you folks out.
I live in cali and attended Humboldt State University when I was younger. The trainwreck I got in Humboldt is the exact same as the trainwreck stain sold in the clubs, I have them both! Trainwreck is basically a sativa dominant skunk, whith a sweet afghani somewhere in the mix. Trainwreck is 60/40 sativa/indica and believe me, it stinks!! The high is powerful, pungent, and my favorite smoke by far. The colas are large, light green, and grow tight, with a sweek skunk stank emitting from them. The yield is high, almost as much as the swt#3. They easily double in size when flowering starts, and they always take 70 days to finish. I have grown 26 strains from 10 breeders and still have not found anything to breed the trainwreck with.
The difference in the Trainwreck vs. Alaskan:
Trainwreck is sativa dominant, alaskan is indica dominant.
The odor is probably just as stinky, but the wreck is very skunky-sweet, while the alaskan is more afghani-hashish sweet. One friend in Humboldt cultivates 3 alaskan strains. Both Matanuska Tundra, the Alaskan Thunderfuck and his own alaskan clone strain from his home town in alaska. All three are very very potent indica strains with excellent sweet hash tastes.
But then again, this is all just my opinion.
By the way DrJay, Humboldt state is in arcata, ca. And yes, the trainwreck strain is very stable and abundant up there. EVERYONE"S trainwreck smelled and tasted exactly the same EVERYTIME we got some, through all of my college years. I obtained my clones in arcata and in a med club in Berkeley on San Pablo ave. Anyways, your pics look very acurate to my tw plants and buds, large long donkey dicks, but arnt yours as tight as can be? I've found this strain to have some of the most dense buds ever. Right next to swt#3 for denseness. Is that a word?
I recommend not breeding it with anything other than super stable stains, i.e. Sensi's N.L., Sensi's Skunk, Masterkush, Hindu Kush, Afghani #1 possibly AK-47, Bogbubble, Dont get too many strains in your cross or variations will vary too much. SWT#3 is stable and bx enough for good genes, but the mold factor will fallow wherever it goes!
Once again, just my opinion
I live in cali and attended Humboldt State University when I was younger. The trainwreck I got in Humboldt is the exact same as the trainwreck stain sold in the clubs, I have them both! Trainwreck is basically a sativa dominant skunk, whith a sweet afghani somewhere in the mix. Trainwreck is 60/40 sativa/indica and believe me, it stinks!! The high is powerful, pungent, and my favorite smoke by far. The colas are large, light green, and grow tight, with a sweek skunk stank emitting from them. The yield is high, almost as much as the swt#3. They easily double in size when flowering starts, and they always take 70 days to finish. I have grown 26 strains from 10 breeders and still have not found anything to breed the trainwreck with.
The difference in the Trainwreck vs. Alaskan:
Trainwreck is sativa dominant, alaskan is indica dominant.
The odor is probably just as stinky, but the wreck is very skunky-sweet, while the alaskan is more afghani-hashish sweet. One friend in Humboldt cultivates 3 alaskan strains. Both Matanuska Tundra, the Alaskan Thunderfuck and his own alaskan clone strain from his home town in alaska. All three are very very potent indica strains with excellent sweet hash tastes.
But then again, this is all just my opinion.
By the way DrJay, Humboldt state is in arcata, ca. And yes, the trainwreck strain is very stable and abundant up there. EVERYONE"S trainwreck smelled and tasted exactly the same EVERYTIME we got some, through all of my college years. I obtained my clones in arcata and in a med club in Berkeley on San Pablo ave. Anyways, your pics look very acurate to my tw plants and buds, large long donkey dicks, but arnt yours as tight as can be? I've found this strain to have some of the most dense buds ever. Right next to swt#3 for denseness. Is that a word?
I recommend not breeding it with anything other than super stable stains, i.e. Sensi's N.L., Sensi's Skunk, Masterkush, Hindu Kush, Afghani #1 possibly AK-47, Bogbubble, Dont get too many strains in your cross or variations will vary too much. SWT#3 is stable and bx enough for good genes, but the mold factor will fallow wherever it goes!
Once again, just my opinion
DrJay2001
now at peace
Well Greenguy you know your Wreck My only difference is in the flowering time which is far less (indoors) that 70 days. We really do finish in 42 days indoors although I've seen the Wreck go 70 outdoors. Frankly, I preferred the outdoor variety.
I adore Arcata. I've been to HSU and did a study at the old HPRC. I have friends who live in Arcata (and Eureka and Fortuna) and am looking up there myself (maybe around Blue Lake).
I have friends up in Arcata that grow the Matanuska as well and like my own Alibi it's good but doesn't rate up there with Wreck. It's just apples and oranges.
My Wreck buds are small and very tight. They are more like hash than bud in a way. You're right too about the mix. Wreck is claimed to be a 60/40 (or a 75/25 or a 50/50). The key to the strain is the Lowland Thai Sativa and a great old time Afghani. There's also a Mexican Sativa lurking in there somewhere.
Folks who live in NoCal know Wreck. Along with Blue Dot and Humboldt's Finest it's real gourmet pot. Down here in SoCal you see "Wreck" all over the place and it's all bogus.
I just visited with friends in Arcata and tried Snow Bud, Burmese, and some other local strains. They were all very good but the Wreck still stands out. One friend has a cross of Burmese and "Fucking Incredible" that is pretty darn close to Wreck in potency.
Almost anything that is crossed with Wreck just ends up with a strain that isn't as good. That doesn't mean that I'll stop trying since I want seeds and greater yield.
Oh, btw, the Humboldt Surf Shop on the square is gone! Bummer. And the Eureka Inn has been sold! More bummer.
Yours,
Dr. jay
My only difference is in the flowering time which is far less (indoors) that 70 days. We really do finish in 42 days indoors although I've seen the Wreck go 70 outdoors. Frankly, I preferred the outdoor variety.I adore Arcata. I've been to HSU and did a study at the old HPRC. I have friends who live in Arcata (and Eureka and Fortuna) and am looking up there myself (maybe around Blue Lake).
I have friends up in Arcata that grow the Matanuska as well and like my own Alibi it's good but doesn't rate up there with Wreck. It's just apples and oranges.
My Wreck buds are small and very tight. They are more like hash than bud in a way. You're right too about the mix. Wreck is claimed to be a 60/40 (or a 75/25 or a 50/50). The key to the strain is the Lowland Thai Sativa and a great old time Afghani. There's also a Mexican Sativa lurking in there somewhere.
Folks who live in NoCal know Wreck. Along with Blue Dot and Humboldt's Finest it's real gourmet pot. Down here in SoCal you see "Wreck" all over the place and it's all bogus.
I just visited with friends in Arcata and tried Snow Bud, Burmese, and some other local strains. They were all very good but the Wreck still stands out. One friend has a cross of Burmese and "Fucking Incredible" that is pretty darn close to Wreck in potency.
Almost anything that is crossed with Wreck just ends up with a strain that isn't as good. That doesn't mean that I'll stop trying since I want seeds and greater yield.
Oh, btw, the Humboldt Surf Shop on the square is gone! Bummer. And the Eureka Inn has been sold! More bummer.
Yours,
Dr. jay
greenguy said:
So your saying The Alaskan Trainwreck isn't trainwreck at all?
It is light green with lots of red hairs.With a Lemony diesal smell.
It doesn't yeild a lot but its really decent.Dense Flowers.
65 - 70 days is about right.
whatever it is, it's one of my favorites!
How can I get the Humbolt version? I never been to california.....
G
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Lets see here,
I forgot to mention the other clone-based strain I've aquired. Humboldt snow is a dank sativa strain with a touch of NL. This strain is also called Humboldt's Finest. Although it has NO relations to Mothers Finest. Byt the way, anyone with $$ needs to grow Mothers Finest as soon as possible!!
DrJay- You are right, my flowering time is only 60 days, I just typed it in wrong. I'm trying my 4th breeding project this summer and I have good hoped for finding a good daddy for my trainwreck. I'm fooking for a male within my sensi NL, nirvana masterkush, and sensi's skunk kush. I've bred my train before, and end up throwing away the seeds when I see how much variation they all have. I'm looking for stability!!
Tropical- There may very well be a super dank trainwreck strain from alaska, or even the original from cali made it up there, who knows. But between my education in Environmental Engineering and my knowledge of growing dank plants, I can say that sativa-based strains DO NOT OCCUR in climates such as alaska. Native alaskan plants are super crazy indica's similar to ruderalis but with a much greater stone. I know they have native sativas in canada, but the lattitude of alaska is just enough to push the time-light regime to a new level. Remember, seasons are very different in alaska during summer and winter. So back to my point, if there is a real-alaskan based trainwreck, its got lots of indica in its genes.
How is the best way to find trainwreck? Hang out in northern humboldt for a month!! You know, Steve Tuck was responsible for flooding arcata, eureka and fortuna with the wreck, and I'm sure his seeds made to people all over the place, so chances are you can find trainwreck in many places, even alaska.
I've stated that trainwreck is potent smoke. But I can name at least 10 varieties that are more potent than the wreck. The real prize with the wreck is the taste, sweet skunky lemon!! And have fun trying to mask the smell.
By the way, lots of shops come and go in that small plaza in arcata. The truth of it is all those stores are way way too expensive. Except that herb shop down there, they always have the best products for packaging hashish and honey oil!!
I forgot to mention the other clone-based strain I've aquired. Humboldt snow is a dank sativa strain with a touch of NL. This strain is also called Humboldt's Finest. Although it has NO relations to Mothers Finest. Byt the way, anyone with $$ needs to grow Mothers Finest as soon as possible!!
DrJay- You are right, my flowering time is only 60 days, I just typed it in wrong. I'm trying my 4th breeding project this summer and I have good hoped for finding a good daddy for my trainwreck. I'm fooking for a male within my sensi NL, nirvana masterkush, and sensi's skunk kush. I've bred my train before, and end up throwing away the seeds when I see how much variation they all have. I'm looking for stability!!
Tropical- There may very well be a super dank trainwreck strain from alaska, or even the original from cali made it up there, who knows. But between my education in Environmental Engineering and my knowledge of growing dank plants, I can say that sativa-based strains DO NOT OCCUR in climates such as alaska. Native alaskan plants are super crazy indica's similar to ruderalis but with a much greater stone. I know they have native sativas in canada, but the lattitude of alaska is just enough to push the time-light regime to a new level. Remember, seasons are very different in alaska during summer and winter. So back to my point, if there is a real-alaskan based trainwreck, its got lots of indica in its genes.
How is the best way to find trainwreck? Hang out in northern humboldt for a month!! You know, Steve Tuck was responsible for flooding arcata, eureka and fortuna with the wreck, and I'm sure his seeds made to people all over the place, so chances are you can find trainwreck in many places, even alaska.
I've stated that trainwreck is potent smoke. But I can name at least 10 varieties that are more potent than the wreck. The real prize with the wreck is the taste, sweet skunky lemon!! And have fun trying to mask the smell.
By the way, lots of shops come and go in that small plaza in arcata. The truth of it is all those stores are way way too expensive. Except that herb shop down there, they always have the best products for packaging hashish and honey oil!!
i thought the steve tuck beans were bullshit and unstable?
now your telling me,that all this time the genes he is selling our valid?
maybe i should of got some.....
Well I'll make due with what i have for the time being.....
maybe bacchus can further explain the origin of the "alaskan Trainwreck"
I'd love a family tree for this strain.....it's great! even with the occasional herm.
now your telling me,that all this time the genes he is selling our valid?
maybe i should of got some.....
Well I'll make due with what i have for the time being.....
maybe bacchus can further explain the origin of the "alaskan Trainwreck"
I'd love a family tree for this strain.....it's great! even with the occasional herm.
