FREEDOM for BONZ

[Bonzo]

Howdy MGJ, I'll get some pics of the damaged plants, even the big one that looks pretty good is prettywel stunted, new growth is small and really slow, it sucks man, im pretty sure the OGRE is savable, new growth on them looks the best out of all damaged.

I fuckin' love that bro (not that you did the same thing twice) just that it sounds like somethin i would do, classic my brotha! (thats me laughin at me, im such a dumb ass sometimes) i deserve to be laughed at, maybe even publicly flogged

so well go over pics tomorrow and evaluate the situation.

coolness man


whats crackin BG! Its a motha fuckin' mad ,mad world we live in, i think iv just adapted to my surroundinds. Hmmmmm that doesnt sound very good . that barrel kicks ass ,better than what you would get if you decided to have them throw that in with the controller. that cat runs my life, yells at me, eats like 8 times a day, but she does catch any vermon that happen to be scurrying around my back yard, my nieghbors complain of rodents in there yard, i dont have that problem.

Actually ive gone back to hydroton, it just seemed to me that the lava didnt work well in the ebb & flow so for the moment im back to the little balls that get all over your house.i just love that about hydroton.

yeah the ebb & flow just allways seems to work and what you got planned sounds killa bro, check out the link i sent ya for the barrels you wont be dissapointed, i also think that the people that run the place are on our side if ya know what i mean.

My mom is such a trip, she gets the biggest kick outa ya'll sayin high, pretty cool man, i like to see her happy ya know.

Allrighty then BG, check back tomorrow and have a look at what ive done to some of my plants, its grotesque! poor trainwreck mom, i like her alot.

maybe we can save em

peace my brothas

bonz

 

[Guest]

BONZO............................Dewd now I see why you were askin earlier bout buildin the rez with plyweed and rubber membrane...........hasta be lower than the buckets ,right?(1)Any cover on rez?(2)How yas got buckets plumbed?(3)And EWWWWWW hydroton............here`s where the shits gonna hit el fanno,BUT..............what probs did you have with the lava?.........Lava`s the best anchorin system for big plants bar none.........Ive seen plants slip around in buckets of hydroton(trees)for the duration of the flowerin cycle cuz they were growin so fast with the kbs way that they couldnt get a foothold which causes great stress on the plant diverting energy AWAY from makin nastyass honkin buds the size of MH BULBS.........Teresa ,what do you use?I saw BLUEHAZE the grower do a room full of Reefermans hashplants with lavarock and hardly any tying up at all(they were tied tho) because how tough they had gotten due to their root system bein so strongly anchored in the buckets (is that your tree strain Teresa?)His biggest tree had 3 1/4 lbs harvested.......Anyways ,nuff ramblin..........................Hope I didnt step on any toes,just tryin to learn different ways of cultivation as well as expound on my personal experience and help all I can............PEACE..........DHF.........almost forgot.........Keep #1 son straight MOM!!!!!

 

[Teresa]

And EWWWWWW hydroton............here`s where the shits gonna hit el fanno,BUT..............what probs did you have with the lava?.........Lava`s the best anchorin system for big plants bar none.........Ive seen plants slip around in buckets of hydroton(trees)for the duration of the flowerin cycle cuz they were growin so fast with the kbs way that they couldnt get a foothold which causes great stress on the plant diverting energy AWAY from makin nastyass honkin buds the size of MH BULBS.........Teresa ,what do you use?

I also use hydroton and havent seen or had a problem to date.But my plant's usually see alot of bondage so that might help :friends: :wink:

I saw BLUEHAZE the grower do a room full of Reefermans hashplants with lavarock and hardly any tying up at all(they were tied tho) because how tough they had gotten due to their root system bein so strongly anchored in the buckets (is that your tree strain Teresa?)His biggest tree had 3 1/4 lbs harvested.......

My strain's used for true Tree's are either B.C. Hash Plant from Motarebel (thank you Mota) or S.A.G.E. !!But i will be germing Reeferman's Hash Plant (RM-38) here shortly in search of a good mother :friends: :wink: .

 

[Organic Hydro]

Hi Bonzo's Mom

BONZO! that's cool your mom checks out your thread bro!, while my mom doesn't get high, she loves to see my plants when she visits, and is always amazed by how fast they grow and how much the plants change between veg and flower :smile: she says it just blows her away that cannabis can be somany things to somany people.

And i think it's bitchin that you have that kind of relationship with your mom bro! mine always supported my cultivation hobby and still does to this very day, as a matter of fact, she's stoked that my CBII is in Heads this month, and that i'll be doing some stuff for other mags myself, as growing just seems to be the one thing in life i never get tired of!

Well Ms B, congrats on raising such a good boy [ LOL ] and BONZO bro, i'll be intouch about the other things we talked about.

Got any pics of those OGRE & TW's?


Peace

 

[Bonzo]

Howdy FRED! yes you are correct the system works on gravity, so rez lower than buckets. But i dont need a controller or 55 gallon drum! No cover, never had problems with the green stuff, but i allways have a pump constantly curculating the nutes.

I dont know dude the lava just didnt seem to work in the flood and drain??????

but like Teresa i havent had any probs with hydroton except having to clean it deal with it rolling around everywhere!

FRED you aint steppin on any ones toes, not mine any way, my threads are open to talk and ask any kind of questions pertinent to the thread that includes anyone posting pics of there own plants in similar systems, i encourage it.

and if you stepped on T's toes she prolly wouldnt have graciuosly answered your questions as she did, thank you T cause i wanted to know that as well so its all good!

like i said lets get to muddlin' !!!!!

as far as the plumbing and what not FRED i beg you, cause i suck at typing to refer to page 24 of this thread, 13th post from the top you will find a link to my first thread that describes in detail the plumbin stuff. cool man? cool. just hit filter if you dont want to read all the other posts in the thread. Then youll have a better understanding of this system. Thanks dude.

Thanks again T for offerin up your info, your a sweet heart of a gal girlie!

Howdy O H! MOM says HI right back at ya' and to all involved in this thread.
Big DITTO on your and my moms support and involvement.

As i said earlier my mom has finally started making "special" cookies for her migraines and i also mentioned that shes a seemstress, anyhow my mom has allways made pillows for gifts for our close friends, well since takind her new medicine it has got the creative jiuces flowin and shes makin' a bunch of one of a kind pillows to sell on ebay, im really proud of her for wanting to do a little more with her life.

Trippy sidenote O H, when we were kids all my friends called my mom Ms B! aint that a trip!

OK for the sick pics:
2 sensi star gifted to me me by a good friend, 2 Ogres behind, im not too concerned with the OGRES those damn plants are so hearty i think there gonna make it no prob, but any input is still encoureged.




the big girl, by the way she is a Female Seeds Skunk Special and still just doesnt look right to me, and for those ofe you that saw what Mr Wags FSSS turned out like i would really like to get her as healthy as possible before flowerin her:



trainwreck kinda looks like shes makin a comeback?



all input welcome.

allmost forgot FRED, this pick is the bucket connection set up, ill explain more tommorow, i left the damn cap askew on the pvc glue and it went south on me.

if i missed any thing im sorry, i have been workin' way too hard the last couple days, so ill try to cover eveyrything as best i can when im not so tired.

Allrighty brothas and sistas, thank you all for your interest and help in my quest to become a better grower, i need all the halp i can get.

goodnight and sleep well

bonz

your pic FRED ^^^

 

[Sleepy]

you're the man, bONZ!!

glad to hear you are keeping busy!

Hi Ms. B!
have you met Mr. B?
hehehe
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[Guest]

Bonz...........Yeah I looked down and saw that it was like page 26, so I wont put yas thru the repeat expo.........Krusty used to hate that shit cuz the threads got so long people kept askin the same q`s over and over ,wouldnt go back,do the research and try to grasp the system as it was explained,Sorry dewd........1 question; Do you keep your rez and bucket temps@68-72 degrees f? ..............Anyhoo`s thanx for my own personal pic!.........lmao............PEACE........DHF..........HI MOM`S.............

 

[Guest]

Hi FRED! If memory serves me correctly, Bonz has a super calibrated finger thermometer thing goin on... just has to dip a finger for a second and it's good.. no rot probs! haha... Bonz, ya make it look easy bro!!!

Your system is bitchen!!!

 

[Guest]

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Things are on our side..

 

[Bonzo]

Sleepy Dude!!

no, no, no, homie, you da man!!!! how are ya bro? sorry i didnt respond sooner, just been busy.

that pic reminds me of me and my girlfriend in the 7th grade, i was such a bad influence!

some of my moms pillows, made with love and filled with good kharma:


FREDDIE BOY, how the hell are ya man? No prob dude, im gonna show ya a pic of where i got the idea for the pvc system, im a computer retard so all pics will be at bottom of page, i forgot to take a close up of the inside gray pvc piece that screws into the one in the pics, i mention thin cause it needs to be modified, ill show ya how i do it, dont know if its the best way but its worked for me so far.

GroNut, my brotha goddang good to see ya dude! after you mentined my magical finger, i decided to test the waters so too speak, and as my Sense/Master used to say: " neva unda estimate da powa of da finga "

things seem to be on our side and lookin' better every day!


pics: things are still a little hap hazzard but what the fuck is new in my garden eh? its allways alil hap hazzard and goofey.


some of ma's pillows^^^^

FRED:








GNut:
temps:lights on:



lights off: oh by the way, very top reading is time of day, middle is room temp, bottom is rez temp.




if they say its all in th roots and nice white roots are a good thing, than im doin ok here, this is the big girl and the roots are really startin to push through now. A week ago there were none, by the way shes in the the flowering room where i have only used " the finga " to test rez temps.

Sleepy Dude, this buds for you:



perfect wave, beware though, bigger and harrier than it looks but nowone out: LA county, So Cal, this winter.





peace, peace, and more peace to you all my brothas and sistas, i feel good do you? :friends:

bONZ




P.S. Is pot still illegal? I have NEVER felt like i was doing anything wrong by groing my own, 20+ years and still growin' and it still feels to me like im growin tomatoes or squash or whatever, y'all dig where im comin from?

Somethin' is seriously wrong with this fuckin world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

peace

 

[Bonzo]

OK, heres the roots:

lookin ok eh? wathca y'all think?





bonx

 

[Teresa]

they look nice and white from where i'm sitting :friends: :wink: .

 

[Bonzo]

Howdy T! How are ya girlie? ya know what i noticed is that the holes in that and several of my inner buckets seem to be just the right size for the hydroton to allmost "plug" the drain holes making it harder for the roots to drop. Maybe a layer of 3/4" to 1" lava on the bottom would help? Waddya think?

Allways makes my day to see ya here girlie! :friends:

peace, pot and microdot.

bONZ

 

[Teresa]

To tell the truth i did notice the rather large holes in your pot's can't see how adding a layer of lava rock would hurt thing's :friends: :wink: .

 

[Guest]

Im gonna talk yall bucketheads into usin lava yet.....................lol........Roots lookin groovy Bonz,but yeah lava allows for waaay better and faster drainage with more oxygen supplied to roots.......AND WONT BLOCK THE HOLES...........lol..........If youre not growin big big plants I suppose hydroton is the proper choice,I dont know tho lava`s pretty cheap at casa de depot.........Glad all`s goin well guy and hey ,hope you and mom`s is dewin okies............PEACE......DHF.........

 

[Guest]

Bonz.......Hope yall dont think Im bein an ass bout the lava.......I`m kinda obsessive..............lol....DHF..........

 

[Sleepy]

Sleepy Dude!!
Sleepy Dude, this buds for you:
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...
peace, peace, and more peace to you all my brothas, i feel good do you? :friends:
...
bONZ
...
P.S. Is pot still illegal? I have NEVER felt like i was doing anything wrong by groing my own, 20+ years and still growin' and it still feels to me like im growin tomatoes or squash or whatever, y'all dig where im comin from?

Somethin' is seriously wrong with this fuckin world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

peace

yeah, i agree!

i'll be by for that bud later... looks yummy!

i have wondered about it for a while...can you tell me what the upside down 'U' is for above the rez???


thanks, roots look AWESOME!!!! [WRAP=""]http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2814DSCF4098.JPG[/WRAP]

 

[Bonzo]

Why yes indeedy i can Sleepy my brotha, im glad you asked. First of all its called an "Overflow" and it controls how high my buckets get flooded.



In this pic even though the overflow is whited out, (gotta learn more about my cam) you can clearly see the the "flood" fitting with a 1/2" line going to the pump, more important is you can also clearly see the nutes "draining" out of the overflow.

The vertical height of the overflow is set to about 1" 1/2" to 2" LOWER than the top of the outer or bottom buckets (shown in pic). So once the pump starts flooding, the nuetes run through the pvc and start to fill each bucket simultaniously. As soon as the water level gets to the top of the overflow, it starts to drain and the at that point the buckets stop filling and the water level will remain at the height of the overflow untill the flood pump is shuts off. At that point the water simply drains back through the pump and voila, the perfect fllood and and drain!

It is IMPOSSIBLE for the water level in my buckets to go any higher than the height of the overflow. Pretty cool eh? Its a multi flow without a controller, the overflow replaces the complicated controller and only cost at most 2 bucks. (not including the rest of the pvc that feeds the buckets that cost me prolly a wopping 25 bucks including those neato valves!)

The one thing that i think prevents alot of people from using this method is the buckets have to be elevated above the rez, thats why i biult my own rez, low and long so the buckets could be as low as possible. The taller your rez the higher your buckets have to go. Fuckin gravity!!!!

One more thing i think some people may not like is the fact that the buckets are not mobile, once you measure, cut and assemble your pvc feed lines you cant just go movin' the buckets around, but i tried something new with this system, none of the pvc is glued! I used to glue every connection and i was at that point completly stuck with that configuration. If you notice in one the pics above where i have a feed run layed out for assembly the only parts that get glued are the gray things to the tees and elbows. Notice on the left end of that run i have allready glued the gray thing to the elbow.

When all the gray things are glued, i assemble the run. Then i stand it up vertically and put all my weight on it to get all the pieces as tight as possible. So far no leaks at any joints, this means i can reuse the tees and/or the elbows with the gray fittings (which are the most expensive peices to the system, about 2 bucks each!) over and over again.

This is one of the creators of the overflow designs favorite little systems, see the overflow in the middle? Above in one of my last posts, i cant find in my pics.

http://www.hydroponicsonline.com/

thats his website and where i got the idea to use his overflow technique with buckets, cool site, check it out dude.

please excuse me for going on and on for such a simple question, i get a little carried away sometimes.

peace and love my brotha

bONZ

ps. 4 bucket system, you can see the overflow in the middle. You can create ANY configuration you want and place the overflow (as long as its above the rez) wherever you want along the pvc, no matter what its still gonna flood and drain just the same, i woud have to say its more foolproof than using a controller with all the floats and doo dads and ive also read that with a Multi Flow with say 24 buckets that the buckets furthest from the controller dont allways fill as high as the ones closest, thats just plain impossible with this system.

OK im done

forgot to post 4 bucket pic earlier

 

[Bonzo]

FRED!!! How the hell are ya broham? goddang good to see ya! Believe me im not through with lava oh no no no! Im gonna fill one of my buckets in this system with it and see how it works out. Eventually, hopefully soon, ill be giving the 4 tree kbs a run, PLANTS IN THE DIAMOND PATTERN!!!!! 4 600's in the corners and a 1k in the middle, i dont know how anyone cant see that that is the optimum setup for a 10' x 10' or so room. Ive never done it, but goddang it looks obvious to me?

Diggin' all kbs info on that thread bro!

peaceout homie

bonz

 

[Dreamscape]

MY GOD Bonz :jawdrop: I sure wish I had your work ethic bro haha...

You're one persistant dude, I like it...

Best of luck to you a hundred times over - I've gotta rest my eyes from this 27 page thread i've ran through in the past couple hours...

Later man
~Dream