Foxfarm Feeding

[socal420girl]

I just finished my first grow last month and I used the FF products as well. FFOF soil, Grow Big, Big Bloom, Tiger Bloom, along with Sweet and Liquid Karma foliar...

Everything worked out very well up until the first 1-2 weeks into flower (I vegged 3 clones for 7 weeks). They started to flower, then they just sort of stopped, plus I was noticing a few leaf problems. I figured out that with the liquids, my plants weren't getting enough phosphorus, plus (after buying an electronic pH and TDS meter and reading hours of threads on the products), I realized that a lot of people were having problems with the Tiger Bloom lowering the pH. When I tested, my tap water pH was at 8.1. After adding all my nutes, my pH was at 5.6. I decided that the only way I was going to get my buds to grow and swell more was to get the granular ferts.

I bought the triple pack, used the Beastie Bloomz - full recommended strength - and the next day I was completely amazed!! The buds look like they grew at least twice the size overnight. My guess on the phosphorus was correct!

In my first grow, I only used the granulars for about 4 weeks, since I didn't know what I was really doing in the first place... I can't imagine what will happen when they're used as recommended.

Also, from what I've read from other people using the granulars, there's no need to cut the strength when you first start using them. If anybody knows if this is true or not, please let us know!! Anybody know for sure??

As a newbie, I'm happy with my first trial run using the FF products and I hope my second run will be even better than the first!!

Good luck and happy growing!!

 

[DimeBag65]

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on my indoor runs i use all the lines of Fox farm, i like their products alot, and their vegging grow big seems to work really well. iv found a balanced mix of FF superthrive from time to time, a bit of concentrate lemon juice, and during Flower the beastie bloomz, which i really liked its results, especially with outdoor where you have more ground area to fertilize.

i personally really like using Bio-Bizz(bio-grow and bio-bloom) mixxed with the fox farm, have got great results with this.







both of these have got a nice dose of fox farm mixed with the bio bizz products.^^




with my larger outdoor plants the Feedings with Beastie bloomz helped alot i believe, the higher number of phosphorus and potassium when soaked into the ground does wonders.

Happy seasons, Dime

 

[Maj.PotHead]

I just finished my first grow last month and I used the FF products as well. FFOF soil, Grow Big, Big Bloom, Tiger Bloom, along with Sweet and Liquid Karma foliar...

Everything worked out very well up until the first 1-2 weeks into flower (I vegged 3 clones for 7 weeks). They started to flower, then they just sort of stopped, plus I was noticing a few leaf problems. I figured out that with the liquids, my plants weren't getting enough phosphorus, plus (after buying an electronic pH and TDS meter and reading hours of threads on the products), I realized that a lot of people were having problems with the Tiger Bloom lowering the pH. When I tested, my tap water pH was at 8.1. After adding all my nutes, my pH was at 5.6. I decided that the only way I was going to get my buds to grow and swell more was to get the granular ferts.

I bought the triple pack, used the Beastie Bloomz - full recommended strength - and the next day I was completely amazed!! The buds look like they grew at least twice the size overnight. My guess on the phosphorus was correct!

In my first grow, I only used the granulars for about 4 weeks, since I didn't know what I was really doing in the first place... I can't imagine what will happen when they're used as recommended.

Also, from what I've read from other people using the granulars, there's no need to cut the strength when you first start using them. If anybody knows if this is true or not, please let us know!! Anybody know for sure??

As a newbie, I'm happy with my first trial run using the FF products and I hope my second run will be even better than the first!!

Good luck and happy growing!!

When I tested, my tap water pH was at 8.1. After adding all my nutes, my pH was at 5.6. I decided that the only way I was going to get my buds to grow and swell more was to get the granular ferts


i use mad farmer PH down they also make a PH up my tap water runs 7.2-7.4 ph if no ferts are added i need 1/4 tsp PH down to get my PH 6.5 when i add full dose ferts i need 1/8 tsp ph down.

i did forget to add i use dolimite lime from local garden shop in all my flowering soils. during veg my plants stay no longer then 10-14 days max in each container before flowering so i use no lime during veg. i use 1tsp dolimite lime per gal soil i'll add it as a top soil dressing after few waterings the lime has worked it's way into soil nicely. the dolimite lime helps to keep the soils PH stabel longer then if not used, yes FFOF says PH ballanced but i still use the lime with it.

another thing also a PH meter dosent do any good if the meter is not calibrated every month, cant stress that enough.

 

[socal420girl]

Maj.PotHead: I've read so many threads about people that use the dolomite lime - I think I need to do some research on it so that I can incorporate it into my soil. If it keeps the soil ph more stable, it'd be worth it.

You're absolutely right about the pH meter... it definately needs to be calibrated on a regular basis. I calibrate before each feeding, although I don't think I will maintain that throughout this grow. My tap water isn't consistant at all. I'm not sure if checking my pH will really help me or not, but for some reason, it gives me at least a little piece of mind.

Happy growing!

 

[Maj.PotHead]

Maj.PotHead: I've read so many threads about people that use the dolomite lime - I think I need to do some research on it so that I can incorporate it into my soil. If it keeps the soil ph more stable, it'd be worth it.

You're absolutely right about the pH meter... it definately needs to be calibrated on a regular basis. I calibrate before each feeding, although I don't think I will maintain that throughout this grow. My tap water isn't consistant at all. I'm not sure if checking my pH will really help me or not, but for some reason, it gives me at least a little piece of mind.

Happy growing!

yes do inquire more on the garden dolimite lime

{ My tap water isn't consistant at all. I'm not sure if checking my pH will really help me or not, but for some reason, it gives me at least a little piece of mind}

checking the water's PH before feeding canibis plants really helps when i bought my hanna PH meter my hydro guy said he would calibrate it once a month free n/p and he dose it when ever i bring it in. one time he couldnt calibrate it and gave me a new 1 from under the counter now ive been lazy for 1-1.5 months and havent used mine and some leaves tell the tale lol.


also i live where the alkaline in the water is very high when i find my PH from the tap raises i'll clean the faucet really well. that usally drops the PH back to where it belongs, also when my meter starts to not dial in on the PH and maybe fluctuates .2-.4 bouncing type thing i go have it calibrated. i usally get 1 month of use and the PH value on the meter raises average .2

 

[socal420girl]

That just started happening to my meter - in fact yesterday when I fed... It wouldn't calibrate at the 7.0 solution - it was at 7.2. Maybe I'll call my local hydro store and see if they will calibrate it for me - good advice there!! Also good advice on cleaning the faucet. I'll give that a try also.

Thanks for the lime advice!

 

[Guest]

Hi

pH meters are sensitive instruments. Most problems result from improper use and storage in my 30 years of using and fixing them in my other life There is both an electrode and membrane involved, depending on Man./Model. You need to follow to the letter the manufacturer's instructions for use, cleaning(if required), and storage. Most manufacturers recommend storing in a buffer solution, and I agree.

HGappy growing!!!
Obli

my grow day 17 flower
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=56227

 

[socal420girl]

Oblidio49: I can see how the care of your meter could make a huge diffrence - especially now that I'm having problems with mine. I guess I didn't think it was such a big deal - like most things with "manufacturer's instructions"...

Now I know how important it is. My local hydro place told me that instead of buying the storage solution, to use tap water. Does that sound right? I even questioned it at the time, but they said yeah, that'll work.

I guess I'll be investing a little more money this weekend.

 

[Guest]

I would not use tap water. The storage solution isn't that expensive. Mine was about $15.00 I think.

PPM meters should be stored in distilled water if you have one of those.

 

[Guest]

I thought I recently read that tap water is preferable to RO water for storage if not using the storage solution? Not true?

 

[socal420girl]

Hey jjschagundi -

I haven't read it anywhere myself, but tap water was my local hydro store owner's suggestion. They had every opportunity to make a few bucks on me - and I'm a good customer that they want to keep happy, so I have a hard time believing that it would be harmful. Just my experience here, not speaking as an expert by any means, but my friendly store owners haven't done me wrong yet!

 

[Guest]

Hey jjschagundi -

I haven't read it anywhere myself, but tap water was my local hydro store owner's suggestion. They had every opportunity to make a few bucks on me - and I'm a good customer that they want to keep happy, so I have a hard time believing that it would be harmful. Just my experience here, not speaking as an expert by any means, but my friendly store owners haven't done me wrong yet!

Hi again

I don't doubt the sincerity of your store owner, just his wisdom. And as I said the first time: Following the manufacturers instructions is best.

The quality of tap water varies widely. Mineral deposits(if present) in tap won't do your electrode any good over time. That I know for a fact.

Read this generic thread regarding pH electrodes.

http://www.foxscientific.com/Technical%20Ref/ph_questions.htm#Store

As for Fox Farm nutes:

I am in week 4 of flower. I'm going to give my girls a feed tomorrow AM.

They will get TigerBloom @ 2tsp/gallon and BeastieBloom @ 1/2 tsp/gallon

Good luck with your ph Meter!!!! and happy growing!!

Obli

Here is one of my AI's ay day 23 flower

 

[PhillyPride]

Fox Farm is excellent I have been using it for years while experimenting with others and I allways stick with FF you have to be careful with the Grow Big it is great but strong and can lock up everything easy when used too much, Big Bloom is excellent you CANNOT overdose plants on this and %100 organic, Tiger Bloom is excellent but you can burn/lock up when too much used, the semi-new three part granual series is what really put my yields through the roof first time I got 1lb for a stack, Beastie bloomz is incredible and yes it rivals Advanced Nutrients overdrive i have done case studies the open sesame is great Late Veg/early flower to control stretching and I am not completly sold on the the cha-ching it doesn't do anything to me, I use Superthrive during veg and transplant, Liquid Karma, Diamond Nector during veg, HYGROZYME the best shit on the market, Advanced Nutrients Sweet Leaf it is truly incredible and worked better than Sweet to me, Advanced Nutrients Pirannah and Tarantula they really make plants able to absorbe way more nutrients, this is just my humble opinion

 

[cobain420]

Great posts here, tons of great info!

 

[Guest]

I had excellent results with Big Bloom, Grow Big, Tiger Bloom, all 3 solubles, liquid karma, hygrozyme and thrivealive red. The Open sesame and Beastie Blooms are amazing! My plants hardly stretched and the beastie blooms is like giving your ladies steroids. Honestly, my girls went from 'delicate and fragile' to 'russian womens olympic swim team' in a matter of a week or so. The solubles will last you a long time too, i barely put a dent in mine the last couple grows.

 

[Dick Stallion]

Got a question for you guys......


My plants are in week 4 (about 30 days) into flowering.......I have been feeding every other watering with 1 tsp of Tiger Bloom. Is it OK to start feeding them 2 tsp's ? I know FoxFarm says it's OK on their feeding schedule, but I just want to make sure......

I dont want to burn them, and I know its easy to with the TB.

Also, FoxFarm recomends that I start giving 'em 2 tsp's of Grow Big along with the Tiger Bloom for a few weeks, is this really OK ?

I really dont want to nute burn them.....let me know. Thanks.

 

[Guest]

I stuck to half strength of what the FF feeding chart says, every other watering, and still got a little burnt on this one by then end. Are you using the soluble flower boosters? I found they really increased my ppm, more so than the TB. I was hesitant to use the grow big at that stage as well and did not at first, some of my plants started yellowing though so I added it in. These plants were all about 3' high in 3 gallon pots of promix and fairly heavy eaters.

 

[Dick Stallion]

^^^ Great, thanks for the info. I have not bought the solubles yet, but by everyone's reactions it looks like I really should. Did you use the Cha-Ching and Beastie Bloomz ?

I think I will stick to 1/2 strength as well on everything, but definitely add in some of the grow big next week to help with yellowing that I have on a few plants.

Nice plant by the way, thanks again.

 

[Guest]

Get the open sesame for next time, I started using it a few weeks before flower like they suggest and my nodes multiplied and stayed tight during early flower, almost no stretch. The Cha Ching did'nt noticeably do alot though, i'd skip it and get some Banana Manna from tropical organics, much better and 100% organic for late flower.

 

[Guest]

Got a question for you guys......


My plants are in week 4 (about 30 days) into flowering.......I have been feeding every other watering with 1 tsp of Tiger Bloom. Is it OK to start feeding them 2 tsp's ? I know FoxFarm says it's OK on their feeding schedule, but I just want to make sure......

I dont want to burn them, and I know its easy to with the TB.

Also, FoxFarm recomends that I start giving 'em 2 tsp's of Grow Big along with the Tiger Bloom for a few weeks, is this really OK ?

I really dont want to nute burn them.....let me know. Thanks.

Firtst, I'm a newbie who is having good success...so take that into account. You might want to look at my five Girls thread. I put info in there when I fed them.

I used FF GrowBig TigerBloom and Beastie Bloom. That's all. I would cease using Growbig if you are a month into flowering. Your stretch period is probably ending soon. Your plants need for nitrogen will go down. I would also go easy on the TigerBloom, no more than 1tsp/gallon. I think phasing in Beastie Bloom here soon would be good also. I used them together but when I did, I made sure to not overdo them. My plants are now in Day 58 of flower and still no yellowing of any fan leaves. The one exception is some of the small leaves up on AI# 5 main cola are showing a bit of yellowing.

The colas and buds on my plants are heavy and dense. I have had to cut a couple lower branches and two lower nodes have broken from bud weight. See pics in my Five girls thread in the link below.

My advice is go EASY on nutes. That's what I did and it's worked so far...

Good luck!!
Obli!