Fox Farm Ocean Forest PH stabilization

[ct guy2]

Young,

When you get enough posts, shoot me PM and I can give you some recommendations based on where you're at in the country. (most compost places sell regionally).

Burn has some recipes in the sticky section for soil mixes, and Coot has some as well.

 

[Younggunz43]

Young,

When you get enough posts, shoot me PM and I can give you some recommendations based on where you're at in the country. (most compost places sell regionally).

Burn has some recipes in the sticky section for soil mixes, and Coot has some as well.

thanks man

 

[BurnOne]

I know you have some soil recipes you wouldn't mind sharing right? Ha judging by your sigs you're all about that stuff

Right here, just for you...

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=53792

Burn1

 

[Younggunz43]

Right here, just for you...

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=53792

Burn1

Thanks man. Already figured out my next soil mix. Gonna stick with the ffof and add the blod meal, bone meal, and ewc. With the dolomite like an perlite of course.. Seems so easy to not have to worry about ph or g in it any nutes

 

[yesum]

I ran ffof for a few years and no problems. Then I did a grow and had high ph and nute lockout. ruined the grow, stunted plants. Runoff water was 8 ph and I had lowered the water ph to 5 or 6.

Changed to Roots Organics and the ph is normal. Had gnats in it but that was the grow shop leaving the bags in the rain. Am done with ffof. They should be able to give a ph consistent mix for what they charge.

 

[ct guy2]

I ran ffof for a few years and no problems. Then I did a grow and had high ph and nute lockout. ruined the grow, stunted plants. Runoff water was 8 ph and I had lowered the water ph to 5 or 6.

Changed to Roots Organics and the ph is normal. Had gnats in it but that was the grow shop leaving the bags in the rain. Am done with ffof. They should be able to give a ph consistent mix for what they charge.

This was sort of my point. If you start with your own mix then you know exactly what's in your soil and can control for variables.

 

[Younggunz43]

I ran ffof for a few years and no problems. Then I did a grow and had high ph and nute lockout. ruined the grow, stunted plants. Runoff water was 8 ph and I had lowered the water ph to 5 or 6.

Changed to Roots Organics and the ph is normal. Had gnats in it but that was the grow shop leaving the bags in the rain. Am done with ffof. They should be able to give a ph consistent mix for what they charge.

Wow, yeah you're right for the price it shoul be ready to go out of the bag pretty much.

That's a shame to hear that it ruined your crop. Crossing my finger that the same thing doesn't happen to me because I added 1cup lime to all of my bags. Don't know the run off yet, my plants had a flush before they got up potted and I didn't enough water to get a run off, hopefully in a few days when I check run off it'll be all good.

 

[ct guy2]

Yeah, if you're paying for bagged soil, you shouldn't have to 'fix' it. Especially for the prices they charge.

 

[Younggunz43]

I'm thinking of looking into happy frog. Or going a whole different route next time and try sunshine mix or roots organics. I really don't wanna make my own soil from scratch. I wanna find a nearly complete soil and just add a few things to it like kelp, blood, bone meal or whatevwr organic feed you prefee. and be done with it and not have to worry about it. Ruling out ph and nutrient issues would make life a lot easier for most. Especially since ph can cause so many problems with nutrient lock ect.... A good soil is a must if you wanna have a successful grow... So for all the noobs out there... Invest in top of the line soil to save you hastle in the long run.

 

[EclipseFour20]

If you're mixing...then you are mixing. Price per cubic foot of grow medium drops to about a quarter (huge savings!) when you "start from scratch". Start with a tried and proven recipe and bend it toward your liking. My cost per cubic foot of grow medium is around $4-6...how much is a bag of foxfarms? Each one of my batches are identical (within reason) and I know exactly what to expect...no mystery/surprises. Yeah...you need a work space and storage area...but run the numbers and see if having "consistency" is worth the price.

Bakers do not buy "bread mix" and add stuff to it, they buy and mix flour, yeast, eggs, etc. together then bake it. Why...same reason: quality (consistency) and price.

 

[Younggunz43]

If you're mixing...then you are mixing. Price per cubic foot of grow medium drops to about a quarter (huge savings!) when you "start from scratch". Start with a tried and proven recipe and bend it toward your liking. My cost per cubic foot of grow medium is around $4-6...how much is a bag of foxfarms? Each one of my batches are identical (within reason) and I know exactly what to expect...no mystery/surprises. Yeah...you need a work space and storage area...but run the numbers and see if having "consistency" is worth the price.

Bakers do not buy "bread mix" and add stuff to it, they buy and mix flour, yeast, eggs, etc. together then bake it. Why...same reason: quality (consistency) and price.

Hmmm..... Yeah those are some good points. I have read thru the stickies on organics and have found a lot of good recipes I'll be experimenting with. I do perpetual grows so I think I'll experiment with a couple different recipes over the next few months.

Any recommendations are appreciated..

 

[Mikell]

Keep it simple, use a short ingredient list. If things go batshit side up it will be much easier to straighten out. Spend more time sourcing quality compost/castings than tracking down obscure ingredients.

 

[Younggunz43]

Would peat be a good base or no? Also what about coco?

 

[Mikell]

I mix and match, about 4:1-3:1. The majority here use peat alone I believe.

 

[Younggunz43]

Thanks for the tips man,
So you like peat and coco? I've used coco in DWC with amazing results

 

[Team Microbe]

Thanks. I'm gonna use lime in some of my pots and oyster shell flour in the other to see if I can tell a difference from my run offs between the two.

Seems like most people think hydro is more complicated but so far I'm having more troubles with soil grows

Hydro is like cooking stovetop mac and cheese, and soil is like starting from scratch and making it by hand. Stovetop comes with simple instructions, application measurements, and is practically fail proof... the only downfall is that it tastes like shit lol

Growing in soil is like starting from scratch... it requires more science, less marketing gimmicks, and the taste and flavor is hands down unbeatable.


I had terrible failures at first with soil too, so I went to bottles and killed it. After a few years I read Teaming with Microbes, threw out all of my bottles and began mixing soil. My medicine has been noticeably better, and yields have increased too believe it or not. It's all about feeding the soil, and not the plant

 

[Mikell]

Thanks for the tips man,
So you like peat and coco? I've used coco in DWC with amazing results

Apologies, never saw the reply. It's worked well this year, peat and coir are easier to rehydrate than peat alone. I also prefer coir for *gasp* conventional fertilizer setups.