Found some FLIR blocking Mylar

[NiteTiger]

I was discussing this topic.. again please read more carefully. We were discussing this product, and I mentioned in my post that ''I would consider buying this product if I was not growing in cabs''.

Please think more carefully before posting. Read my post in its entirety before you comment on it. I had already stated in my post that it does not block rays, and that I would consider buying this product if I was not growing in cabs. Please explain to me where I did not clearly say ''white paint does not block rays''. I believe everyone with even the simplest mental capacity can understand that.

Have a nice day.

 

[RNDZL]

For reference, FLIR law in the united state

In 2001, the United States Supreme Court decided that performing FLIR surveillance of private property without a search warrant by law enforcement violates the Fourth Amendment's protection from unreasonable searches and seizures. Kyllo v. United States, 533 U.S. 27 (2001)[2]

this does not apply to commercial or industrial

 

[supermanlives]

get tek foil from farmtek it is available thicker than reflectix which i also use

 

[Strainhunter]

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IMHO by the time your place is being investigated with FLIR...you already got much more of a problem than whether you have it blocked...or not.

If "they" want to investigate your place..."they" will find a way.

If not FLIR...then something else.




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[DIGITALHIPPY]

IMHO by the time your place is being investigated with FLIR...you already got much more of a problem than whether you have it blocked...or not.

If "they" want to investigate your place..."they" will find a way.

If not FLIR...then something else.

thats what im saying.

 

[supermanlives]

flir can be beaten easilly. afoaf had his grow flown over several times with no results. he got busted anyhow tho cause a rat. 30k. the idiots couldnt find out how to get in so the cut a hole in the wall with a chainsaw

 

[Willie Dean]

If you are doing it right flir won't work?

If you are doing it right flir won't work?

I must be missing something here.

In my logic...

1. A house is usually kept at about 75 degrees, whatever the weather
outside.

2. Our fav plant likes it about 75-80 degrees.

If you are keeping your g-room at 78 and the rest of the house is
74, how can anyone 'see' a significant temp difference with flirr at all.

Seems to me your g-room would have to be way too hot for it's
intended purpose in order for any detection to be made and you
shouldn't be doing it anyway.

 

[NiteTiger]

I must be missing something here.

In my logic...

1. A house is usually kept at about 75 degrees, whatever the weather
outside.

2. Our fav plant likes it about 75-80 degrees.

If you are keeping your g-room at 78 and the rest of the house is
74, how can anyone 'see' a significant temp difference with flirr at all.

Seems to me your g-room would have to be way too hot for it's
intended purpose in order for any detection to be made and you
shouldn't be doing it anyway.

Problem is, that logic is skewed a bit. It's fails to account for how much heat we are actually generating, which is more important than the actual temperature of the rooms.

The end result of all your efforts is a grow of 78F, but to do that you had to manipulate your environment. The biggie is light heat. You're either venting that away, or cooling the room.

If you're venting that away, then to where? It's got to go somewhere. Lots of folks dump it out a dryer vent, or to the attic. Thing is, that stands out on FLIR.

If you're cooling it, you're creating more heat to dump.

It's not the grow itself that gets spotted most often, it's the waste heat. That's why I said earlier:

They don't have to be able to pick out individual leaves on a FLIR scan to bust you, they just need to show you are using and disposing of heat in a manner consistent with growing operations AND/OR in a manner inconsistent with your location.

Which means they don't have to show a FLIR print with your grow highlighted as a bright orange blob. They just need some FLIR scans showing your attic is hotter than any other house in your neighborhood. Or that your chimney or dryer duct is exhausting hot air 24/7. Or even worse, for 12 hours straight.

Couple that with just about any other "in support" evidence (electric bills, smell, affidavits, etc), and boom, you've got a search warrant with your address on it.

Remember, they're not just cruising around doing random scans. If they're looking at you, they know what they are looking for.

 

[Ras Mason]

Super Therm paint......check it out

 

[supermanlives]

they wont ever be able to tell . i vent to the attic and i can guarantee my roof is well over a 120 degrees making flir useless. except maybe on a cloudy day. i can also vent under the house. fuck em. i do agree if they are using flir on your ass your screwed sooner or later

 

[Willie Dean]

NT, I see what you mean. So basically if you are going to vent heat somewhere you will have to ensure it is well dispersed before coming in contact with or exiting a visible part of your house?

 

[CarpeLibertatem]

As far as I can tell, the only way to beat flir is to run a room inside a room, sealed. People still think these things see through walls. If your running something big enough that flir is a concern, then just make sure the house exterior temp is what it should be and worry no more......that said, if they're fliring your house and you've taken these precautions, on that front, you should be good; BUT, your power bill will be a different story.....unless you're running a genny.....

 

[Strainhunter]

I am posting this again:

If you are in the US...and FLIR is being used to investigate your place of concern...this can only be done with a search warrant...and even if it is done w/o one...you already got much more of a problem than whether you have FLIR blocked...or not.

So why blocking it in first place?

 

[Pythagllio]

The heat has to go somewhere. So called 'FLIR blocking' mylar simply keeps the heat from escaping. If it isn't getting out of the room you have a problem with an overheated room. If you don't have that problem you didn't need the mylar. The product is a rip off.