ChaoticEntity
Active member
ok, the thread about Mr. Kerry's remarks has led me to the desire to share a concept that I hope you will all eventually understand and apply to your political viewpoints
This starts with Mr. Nevermind's reaction to my post in the thread, this is not an attack in any form, I view his posts with the upmost respect and feel he is a valued member of our society
arguing about their past military experience has no relevent baseline to this discussion and only serves to polarize the issues of the current parties. I expect a politician to make themselves damn clear or to apologize for the miscommunication and say what they ment to say in clearer terms. Again this statement only serves to polarize the issue at hand and make it an dem vs repub thing instead of the facts of what Mr. Kerry said and did.
Unfortunately this is an all to common practice in today's media, instead of focusing on the issues at hand it's become a free for all in who can bash who and for what. If we as a people do not want the wool pulled over our eyes we must be able to look at information rationally and understand the viewpoint by which it is being given to us. If people want to affect change in this great nation of ours we must first educate ourselves so that we are armed with the tools to understand.
I understand most people here are democrat AND believe in a concept of social equality, of wanting to help people achieve more. I believe that is as nobel an ideal as any could possibly be. But bear in mind that being democrat is a seperate thing from wanting social equality, not that dems don't want it(they do and so does the GOP), more that the two things are exclusive of one another, that is to say you can want social equality without being a dem and you can be a dem without wanting social equality.
I want social change, I want policy change and I want to help those that can't seem to make it no matter how hard they try, I want this country to be fair and equitable, I want to leave this world a better place that I found it. What I have found in this world is that people in low situations don't make it unless the people on top make it, regan's idea of trickle down economics works. Taxing big business to me is a bad idea, I want corporations to be tax free, if they do this then they can hire more people, they can bring out products and cheaper prices, they can affect a larger positive change on the economy.
the last 2 paragraphs emphesis a point, the party system seem to affect how change happens, not what changes. Both parties have had their sucesses in economics and policy, and I do not think that one party is right more than the other, the point of all of this being is that in order to affect change you have to understand how that change will happen and vote for the best method of how that change happens. Simply voting for someone who says they'll do something without telling you how they'll do it makes you the fool.
I took a taxi last year to college as I was late for the bus(didn't have a car at the time), the cab driver was a democrat(common in this town) and stated to me that college should be free for everyone with the grades to attend. Now I must admit I love the idea, I would love to finish school and not be 30k in debt. So I asked him "then who's going to pay for it" he couldn't say, he hadn't thought about it. As lovely an idea as it is, it's worthless without knowing how to acomplish it. a good quote would be "Ambition without knowledge is like a boat on dry land"
I want everyone here that's legal to vote to do so, but I want you to think about what you want out of our government and I want you to think about how they can do it, vote for the person that knows how to get it done, not the person that has lovely ideals that have no practical basis. Vote for the change, not the ideal.
This starts with Mr. Nevermind's reaction to my post in the thread, this is not an attack in any form, I view his posts with the upmost respect and feel he is a valued member of our society
Mr. Nevermind said:
arguing about their past military experience has no relevent baseline to this discussion and only serves to polarize the issues of the current parties. I expect a politician to make themselves damn clear or to apologize for the miscommunication and say what they ment to say in clearer terms. Again this statement only serves to polarize the issue at hand and make it an dem vs repub thing instead of the facts of what Mr. Kerry said and did.
Unfortunately this is an all to common practice in today's media, instead of focusing on the issues at hand it's become a free for all in who can bash who and for what. If we as a people do not want the wool pulled over our eyes we must be able to look at information rationally and understand the viewpoint by which it is being given to us. If people want to affect change in this great nation of ours we must first educate ourselves so that we are armed with the tools to understand.
I understand most people here are democrat AND believe in a concept of social equality, of wanting to help people achieve more. I believe that is as nobel an ideal as any could possibly be. But bear in mind that being democrat is a seperate thing from wanting social equality, not that dems don't want it(they do and so does the GOP), more that the two things are exclusive of one another, that is to say you can want social equality without being a dem and you can be a dem without wanting social equality.
I want social change, I want policy change and I want to help those that can't seem to make it no matter how hard they try, I want this country to be fair and equitable, I want to leave this world a better place that I found it. What I have found in this world is that people in low situations don't make it unless the people on top make it, regan's idea of trickle down economics works. Taxing big business to me is a bad idea, I want corporations to be tax free, if they do this then they can hire more people, they can bring out products and cheaper prices, they can affect a larger positive change on the economy.
the last 2 paragraphs emphesis a point, the party system seem to affect how change happens, not what changes. Both parties have had their sucesses in economics and policy, and I do not think that one party is right more than the other, the point of all of this being is that in order to affect change you have to understand how that change will happen and vote for the best method of how that change happens. Simply voting for someone who says they'll do something without telling you how they'll do it makes you the fool.
I took a taxi last year to college as I was late for the bus(didn't have a car at the time), the cab driver was a democrat(common in this town) and stated to me that college should be free for everyone with the grades to attend. Now I must admit I love the idea, I would love to finish school and not be 30k in debt. So I asked him "then who's going to pay for it" he couldn't say, he hadn't thought about it. As lovely an idea as it is, it's worthless without knowing how to acomplish it. a good quote would be "Ambition without knowledge is like a boat on dry land"
I want everyone here that's legal to vote to do so, but I want you to think about what you want out of our government and I want you to think about how they can do it, vote for the person that knows how to get it done, not the person that has lovely ideals that have no practical basis. Vote for the change, not the ideal.
