for the love of god, stop talking about John kerry on the news!

[Mr. Nevermind]

This shit is a joke! I cant belive that this story is all over the news. republicans are jumping all over his comments and taking them out of context to make him sound negative against the troops. I cant believe that the GOP is trashing a war hero saying he doenst care about the troops and thinks they are stupid. I think he is one of the few that care about the troops. Now they want him to say "Im sorry" ? for what? the truth? Bush needs to say "im sorry" for telling the troops mission accomplished, or for sending them to war for a false reason .They bitch at kerry for his comment and say he is bashing the troops, yet their comments are bsshing a war hero who defended this county and got injured in combat! So they want him to apolagize for something that they are doing themselves. Where were the demands for an apology when the swift boat vets trashed Kerry? No outrage from the GOP there.




Nevermind

 

[Nikijad4210]

I'm fuckin' sick of the hoopla over it, too. It's gotten to the point of obsessive already.

 

[Mr. Nevermind]

I'm fuckin' sick of the hoopla over it, too. It's gotten to the point of obsessive already.

I think the news should actually talk about things that effect us. Real news and the GOP is trying to avoid that. The ywont talk about the over 100 men and women in Ira this month that have died or the 80 dead bodies of iraqi's they found. Or the debt that is huge that you & I know are responsable for over 30K of now. We pay taxes an dsocial security yet our government spends all of our $$ and now asks for more. Maybe if we didnt spend 2 billion a month in Iraq we would have the $4 to fix New Orleans, but they dont want to discuss that.


They cant discuss issues so instead they jump on a comment that someone not even up for election said. Why dont they ask Rush to say "Im sorry" to Michale J Fox for making fun of him and his disease?


The GOP are a bunch of pussies! They trash talk everyone and throw mud at any chance they get. then when someone says something they dont like they get all sensative and want you to say " im sorry" . Thats called being able to dish it out but cant take it. You have a bunch of rich old white guys who never served inthe military telling us how to defend the country. Where was Bush when we were at war and he was in the guard? On a campaign! Yet he talks about others weak on defense? What has he done to defend us and the over 2500 dead soldiers?






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[spectrum]

you all watch the news?


if you want to know the real truth about Kerry - watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp_HpXE1cBY

 

[Capt. Zigzag]

...I cant believe that the GOP is trashing a war hero...

War hero. The dude abandoned his troops and self inflicted wounds for crosses. Ask the war veterans what they think of him.

The guy's an idiot.

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[Old Man Time]

He should have kept his trap shut.

Ask veterans what they think about him....ask the swift vets lol

I think dems are scared that this will lose the election for them.....i love it.

Maybe that was roves 'october surprise'

 

[LEGI0N]

To tell the truth both parties are FUBAR. It's like the pot calling the kettle black. They both do the same stupid lame ass shit. They both have their "Holier then thou" attitude.

Kerry stuck his foot in his mouth at the wrong time and place. He should have apologized profusely and not tried to downplay it. “"Of course I'm sorry about a botched joke. You think I love botched jokes?" Really? That’s all you see there is a ‘botched joke’ you think everyone is in a uproar about a ‘botched joke’.. That is where he screwed up on top of screwing up. It’s just dumb. He just needs to own up and move on. The more he bob-n-weaves the more it looks like he doesn’t get it or it just too hard headed to let them say “got ya!”

 

[Old Man Time]

I want him to keep doing interviews.....he just keeps diggin himself deeper...hahahah i love it

 

[ChaoticEntity]

kerry was an idiot to say something like that, personally it makes me glad he didn't get elected president, I don't want a commander in chief that thinks the men that are fighting for him are idiots.

It's election season, lot's of mudslinging lot's of bullshit on both sides, I'll be glad when it's over in a week regardless of the outcome.

 

[Mr. Nevermind]

kerry was an idiot to say something like that, personally it makes me glad he didn't get elected president, I don't want a commander in chief that thinks the men that are fighting for him are idiots.

It's election season, lot's of mudslinging lot's of bullshit on both sides, I'll be glad when it's over in a week regardless of the outcome.

Typical spin, so sad. If you take everything he said as Literal then you think he also said everyone in texas lives in a state of denail? That was a joke just as his other comment. Yeah electing a guy who dodged going to war when he was in the service is great to have as a commander in chief then having a guy who answered his couties call and went to Vietnam.

The dude abandoned his troops and self inflicted wounds for crosses


You were there and know this for fact or isnt that more swift boat shit? You get mad saying he is bashing troops yet you are bashing a man who went to war and served his country? A bit hipocritical.






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[Guest]

Watch what you say about Kerry he might become the next president and pick up right where old g-dub left off and throw you all in prison for talking badly about his hinus

 

[Old Man Time]

 

[Underground Man]

Straight out of the rove playbook, make people hate eachother by making it look like the other side hates them. So people get more worried about us-vs-them ideaolgy than practical reality.

kerry should know better, fuck he lost 2004 and now he's fucking up now. fuck him! The republican attack machine has killed his appeal, he needs to accept that and keep his mouth shut and his big face of the tv.

 

[sackoweed]

all i got to say is be a value voter not a repub or democ.. cos lord knows democrats are pussies. and republicans have the balls and can fight but, cant add or subtract and if they do add its to the wallet. So vote christ like if that makes sense.. just my 2 pennies and a nickel.

Ohh and john kerry looks like a cross between john elway and mr Ed.. And that commercial he made when he was running. I will hunt osama bin laden down and kill him. lmao rotfl. what an idiot.. sounded like my dad will beat your dad up 5th grade shit.. peace.

sack

 

[Mr. Nevermind]

cos lord knows democrats are pussies. and republicans have the balls and can fight but

Democrats are pussies and Republicans can fight? what world do you live in . The majority of the GOP never wore the uniform while mostthe dems are vets


Prominent Democrats

* Jim Webb, Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate from Virginia -- rifle platoon and company commander with the Fifth Marine Regiment in the An Hoa Basin west of Danang; was awarded the Navy Cross, the Silver Star Medal, two Bronze Star Medals, and two Purple Hearts. (1)
* Representative Jack Murtha (D-PA) - distinguished 37-year career in the U.S. Marine Corps, Bronze Star and two Purple Hearts, retired from the Marine Corps Reserve as a colonel in 1990. (1)
* Representative Richard Gephardt, former House Minority Leader - Missouri Air National Guard, 1965-71. (1, 2)
* Representative David Bonior - Staff Sgt., United States Air Force 1968-72 (1, 2)
* Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle - 1st Lt., U.S. Air Force SAC 1969-72 (1, 2)
* Former Vice President Al Gore - enlisted August 1969; sent to Vietnam January 1971 as an army journalist, assigned to the 20th Engineer Brigade headquartered at Bien Hoa, an airbase twenty miles northeast of Saigon. More facts about Gore's Service

* Former Senator Bob Kerrey... Democrat... Lt. j.g., U.S. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam (1, 2)
* Senator Daniel Inouye, US Army 1943-'47; Medal of Honor, World War Two (1, 2)
* Senator John Kerry, Lt., U.S. Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, and three awards of the Purple Heart for his service in combat (1)
* Representative Charles Rangel, Staff Sgt., U.S. Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea (1, 2)
* Former Senator Max Cleland, Captain, U.S. Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam (1, 2)

* Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) - U.S. Army, 1951-1953. (1)
* Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) - Lt., U.S. Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74. (1, 2)
* Senator Jack Reed (D-RI) - U.S. Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91
# Senator Fritz Hollings (D-SC) - served as a U.S. Army officer in World War II, receiving the Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons. (1)

# Representative Leonard Boswell (D-IA) - Lt. Col., U.S. Army 1956-76; two tours in Vietnam, two Distinguished Flying Crosses as a helicopter pilot, two Bronze Stars, and the Soldier's Medal. (1, 2)
# Former Representative "Pete" Peterson, Air Force Captain, POW, Ambassador to Viet Nam, and recipient of the Purple Heart, the Silver Star and the Legion of Merit. (1, 2)
# Rep. Mike Thompson, D-CA: Staff sergeant/platoon leader with the 173rd Airborne Brigade, U.S. Army; was wounded and received a Purple Heart. (1, 2)
# Bill McBride, Democratic Candidate for Florida Governor - volunteered and served as a U.S. Marine in Vietnam; awarded Bronze Star with a combat "V." (1)
# Gray Davis, former California Governor, Army Captain in Vietnam; received Bronze Star. (1)
# Pete Stark, D-CA, served in the Air Force 1955-57
# Wesley Clark, Democratic Presidential Candidate - lengthy military career.


Prominent Republicans

* Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert - avoided the draft, did not serve.
* Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey - avoided the draft, did not serve.
* Former House Majority Leader Tom Delay - avoided the draft, did not serve (1). "So many minority youths had volunteered ... that there was literally no room for patriotic folks like himself."
* House Majority Whip Roy Blunt - did not serve
* Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist - did not serve. (An impressive medical resume, but not such a friend to cats in Boston.)
* Majority Whip Mitch McConnell, R-KY - did not serve (1)
* Rick Santorum, R-PA, third ranking Republican in the Senate - did not serve. (1)
* George Felix Allen, Republican Senator from Virginia - a supporter of Nixon and the Vietnam war, did not serve. (1)
* Former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott - avoided the draft, did not serve.

* Secretary of Defense Don Rumsfeld - served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as an aviator and flight instructor. (1) Served as President Reagan's Special Envoy to the Middle East and met with Saddam Hussein twice in 1983 and 1984.

* GW Bush - decided that a six-year Nat'l Guard commitment really means four years. Still says that he's "been to war." Huh?
* VP Cheney - several deferments (1, 2), the last by marriage (in his own words, "had other priorities than military service") (1)
* Former Att'y Gen. John Ashcroft - did not serve (1, 2); received seven deferment to teach business ed at SW Missouri State

* Jeb Bush, Florida Governor - did not serve. (1)
* Former Speaker Newt Gingrich - avoided the draft, did not serve (1, 2)
* Former President Ronald Reagan - due to poor eyesight, served in a noncombat role making movies for the Army in southern California during WWII. He later seems to have confused his role as an actor playing a tail gunner with the real thing.
* "B-1" Bob Dornan - avoided Korean War combat duty by enrolling in college acting classes (Orange County Weekly article). Enlisted only after the fighting was over in Korea.
* Phil Gramm - avoided the draft, did not serve, four (?) student deferments

* Senator John McCain - McCain's naval honors include the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross. Why did the Bush campaign smear him so? At least Senators Cleland (D-GA), Kerry (D-MA), Kerrey (D-NE), Robb (D-VA) and Hagel (R-NE) defended him.
* Former Senator Bob Dole - an honorable man. http://www.bobdole.org/bio/wwII.php
* Chuck Hagel - two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star, Vietnam. http://www.senate.gov/~hagel/Information/bio.htm
* Duke Cunningham - nominated for the Medal of Honor, received the Navy Cross, two Silver Stars, fifteen Air Medals, the Purple Heart, and several other decorations Recently entered plea bargain on felony charges of bribery, etc. etc.
* Senator Jeff Sessions U.S. Army Reserves, 1973-1986
* Colin Powell. What are we to make of Powell? On the one hand, a long career as a military manager. On the other hand, accused of covering up the My Lai massacre. Back on that first hand, one of the seemingly sane voices in this administration when it comes to Iraq (or at least he used to be). On the other hand, a clear hypocrite ("I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed... managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units...")
Representative Wayne Gilchrest (R-MD), served in USMC in Vietnam; wounded in action.



So there you have it. The GOP talks a good game but when asked to act or serve the run like bitches. Yet people have the nerve to say Dems are weak on defense? They defended us when the weak GOP hid like cowards





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[rusto]

mr.nevermind let me take this post to say i love you and thank you.

 

[Mr. Nevermind]

mr.nevermind let me take this post to say i love you and thank you.

Huh?





nevermind

 

[Underground Man]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States#Vietnam_War

The large cohort of Baby Boomers who became eligible for military service that year also meant a steep increase in the number of exemptions and deferments, especially for college and graduate students. This was the source of considerable resentment among poor and working class young men, who could not afford a college education. ("If you have the dough, you don't have to go.")

As U.S. troop strength in Vietnam increased, more and more young men were drafted for service there and more and more of those still at home sought means of avoiding the draft. For those seeking a relatively safe alternative, service in the U.S. Navy, Air Force or Coast Guard was an option (provided one could meet the more stringent enlistment standards). Since only a handful of National Guard and Reserve units were sent to Vietnam, enlistment in the Guard or the Reserves became a favored means of draft avoidance. Vocations to the ministry and the rabbinate soared, as divinity students were exempt from the draft.

This is what I thouhgt kerry was refering to with his unfortunate remark. Also I would assume that college attendance reduces your chance of enlisting, but I suppose its "insulting" to say so....

when the next world war starts in the middle east and the draft is reinstated I will dodge dodge dodge. I am not going to die because GWB had "the balls" to destabilize the powder-keg region. I am sure GWB understands, seeing as how he enlisted in the guard. The despicable "swift boat" attacks on kerry were the only way that the GOP could draw attention away from the fact that GWB is a draft dodger and kerry is a war hero.

 

[rusto]

Huh?





nevermind

i agree with you 100% and it warms my heart to read your posts teaching these people whats up.

listen to mr.nevermind people he speaks knowledge

 

[Old Man Time]

Here are the real numbers for the current congress.


There are 153 Members of the 108th Congress who have had some form of military
service, some 14 fewer than in the 107th Congress. The House has 117 veterans: 69
Republicans and 48 Democrats, including one woman, who is a Republican. In the
Senate, 35 Members are veterans: 19 Republicans and 16 Democrats. They have served
in World War II, the Korean War, Vietnam, the Persian Gulf, and Kosovo, and during
times of peace, as well as in the Reserves and the National Guard. One Senator is a
former Secretary of the Navy. There has been a steady decline in the number of Members
who have served in the military, which may be attributed in part to the end of the
Selective Service System draft in 1973.

....anyways.....this has nothing to do with what the topic is....kerrys 'botched' joke.