Thanks for the information PassTheDoobie. Lot of information there to let sink in. Kinda confusing a bit but understandable.
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No probs, resinryder, it is my pleasure to do so. May I personally congratulate BOG for starting another conversation. Well done dude!
I might add that post #17 strikes me as hilarious! I completely agree with Bubbabud’s comments on that one! The biggest reason Westerners have so little correct understanding of Buddhism, is that almost all of the information in English is written by non-Buddhist Westerners!
With that said, I will make myself scarce. I pretty much express myself daily here, in another place. I’ll confine myself to that space unless invited or asked. I certainly do not want to intrude.
Once again, BOG: Well done! Your mercy in helping others become aware of the Law of Nam-myoho-renge-kyo is why you are who you are! Continue!
Thomas
I might add that post #17 strikes me as hilarious! I completely agree with Bubbabud’s comments on that one! The biggest reason Westerners have so little correct understanding of Buddhism, is that almost all of the information in English is written by non-Buddhist Westerners!
With that said, I will make myself scarce. I pretty much express myself daily here, in another place. I’ll confine myself to that space unless invited or asked. I certainly do not want to intrude.
Once again, BOG: Well done! Your mercy in helping others become aware of the Law of Nam-myoho-renge-kyo is why you are who you are! Continue!
Thomas
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this is tuchy post/thread & I don't want misunderstood & needed to clarify it a bit
this is tuchy post/thread & I don't want misunderstood & needed to clarify it a bit
Please understand - I fully respect your beliefs - I just don't agree with them & see no reason to let this get out of hand /
I would have expected nothing less than your responses /
I did not know a cannabis website was a recruitment house for religions. Guess I need to re-think that & put into action a Christian recrutment thread /
But then...... I (like Red for once) don't feel this is the place / as most people are hostile to any Christian speaking out & the net is a easy place to be miss-understood
I am a licensed minister & have done a full study on Buddhism & do I not agree or believe in it.
If you are going to teach Buddhism here / make sure your students know the whole truth & background of your religion /
I said my final piece in this thread – if we can agree to disagree – so be it – I see no reason to have religion bring dissention here ......among friends.
Good blessings in the after life –
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Tell you what; If I am right & Christ is the Son of God & the rapture happens soon – I will grab a few of you on the way up /
If I am wrong – you guys can help me through the next life
Smoke a fat one & let it go – I am….& will not even come back here & risk getting upset
this is tuchy post/thread & I don't want misunderstood & needed to clarify it a bit
Please understand - I fully respect your beliefs - I just don't agree with them & see no reason to let this get out of hand /
I would have expected nothing less than your responses /
I did not know a cannabis website was a recruitment house for religions. Guess I need to re-think that & put into action a Christian recrutment thread /
But then...... I (like Red for once) don't feel this is the place / as most people are hostile to any Christian speaking out & the net is a easy place to be miss-understood
I am a licensed minister & have done a full study on Buddhism & do I not agree or believe in it.
If you are going to teach Buddhism here / make sure your students know the whole truth & background of your religion /
I said my final piece in this thread – if we can agree to disagree – so be it – I see no reason to have religion bring dissention here ......among friends.
Good blessings in the after life –
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Tell you what; If I am right & Christ is the Son of God & the rapture happens soon – I will grab a few of you on the way up /
If I am wrong – you guys can help me through the next life
Smoke a fat one & let it go – I am….& will not even come back here & risk getting upset
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NWM, Exactly,I dont even see whats so hard about the thought.Religion causes arguments.period.On top of the fact that this is a canna related site!!I am a part of this community{I think}and I for one dont like it!Now i now someone somewere is sitting there with a big ole smile cause they stirred me up,I'm glad,but in all actuality to even use Jesus in a poll like this pisses me off,wheres the respect for my beliefs there?
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I can believe in Buddhism a whole lot easier than I can a god who demands a blood sacrifice and condemns little children and allows the catholoc churches atrocities for the last 2000 years ..............................by the way, hello there EDITED BY G.N.hey ya know what? Bullcrap...Gypsy....the dude has "security" issues right? then folks got a right to know who he really is so they can avoid his ass so his "security" issues don't become our "security" issues...................
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So Nowhereman keeps saying he doesnt want any part of this conversation but keep getting his opinion in and then says he wont defend or talk about it. If you dont want to continue with the conversation that you made yourself a part of then youi should not make antagnistic remarks and then say you dont want to discuss it. Sort of looks like hit and run to me . I truly wish you guys would start a christian rucruitment thread ...Onward christian soldiers........
nam myoho renge kyo!!
nam myoho renge kyo!!
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I'm of the opinion that enlightenment can be achieved without any religion whatsoever. What's required is that you be a deep thinker with a healthy dose of common sense. Think for yourself and resist the temptation to accept the thoughts of others without questioning them. Question everything.
Peace, tranquility, and enlightenment for all.
Peace, tranquility, and enlightenment for all.
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indigo... though yeah.. its not good to point out something like that... they did announce themself in a post a while back... don't ask me to come up with the link.. dont remember where it was.. but they did say who their previous alias was... though... it's good to practice keeping peoples private info, private at all times.. just in habit... i think we've all messed up there from time to time...
sorry.. not trying to stir shit...
*runs off like napoleon dynamite*
sorry.. not trying to stir shit...
*runs off like napoleon dynamite*
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I not even going to comment some of the previous posts. Budha says: don't gossip (so does Jesus). Does anyone know of any buddhist missionaries trying to convert indians in the amazon or telling africans not to use condoms? Or killing and bombing their brothers in the name of God?
“I’d like to start a religion. That’s where the money is.”
- L. Ron Hubbard (founder of Scientology) to Lloyd Eshbach, in 1949; quoted by Eshbach in OVER MY SHOULDER: REFLECTIONS ON A SCIENCE FICTION ERA, Donald M. Grant Publisher. 1983
“The only way you can control people is to lie to them.”
- L. Ron Hubbard, “Off the Time Track,” lecture of June 1952, excerpted in JOURNAL OF SCIENTOLOGY, issue 18-G, reprinted in TECHNICAL VOLUMES OF DIANETICS & SCIENTOLOGY, vol. 1, p. 418.
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I believe in enlightenment. I have reserved doubts about a "God" that no one has ever seen, accept a bunch of middle eastern individuals that were probably stoned out of thier mind on opium, hash etc. I do believe in Jesus as a real person and respect his teachings of peace and love. I also respect his sacrifice for humanity, but not in the name of a invisable God that thinks it is our destiny to destroy the world ultimately. How can that work? Is this what I want from a God .... No.
It frightens me to think I could spend eternity in hell for my thoughts. Oh what the world religous groups have engrained in our heads. Think about it they are basically teaching that you will never die metaphysically, you will just spend eternity in one of two places that either reward or punish you for your life actions. This just doesn't wash for me anymore. Control is the name of the game plain and simple. I do however believe in positive and negative energies. I believe that you carry with you these energies to the afterlife or whatever you want to call it, and this dictates how you are in that place, deminsion or whatever it is.
Just My thoughts.
Indigo ... Mountaindew is not the only person I have seen lately that has done this to NoWhereMan. I saw someone else do it here in the last couple o weeks. I don't recall who it was tho.
Mo,
It frightens me to think I could spend eternity in hell for my thoughts. Oh what the world religous groups have engrained in our heads. Think about it they are basically teaching that you will never die metaphysically, you will just spend eternity in one of two places that either reward or punish you for your life actions. This just doesn't wash for me anymore. Control is the name of the game plain and simple. I do however believe in positive and negative energies. I believe that you carry with you these energies to the afterlife or whatever you want to call it, and this dictates how you are in that place, deminsion or whatever it is.
Just My thoughts.
Indigo ... Mountaindew is not the only person I have seen lately that has done this to NoWhereMan. I saw someone else do it here in the last couple o weeks. I don't recall who it was tho.
Mo,
I thought that I made it clear that I am both Christian and Buddhist actually and that I really find all beliefs interesting. My belief is that many people do evolve properly achieving their destiny despite not knowing exactly what the truth is.
Thanks Tom and everyone who expressed an opinion because all beliefs should be respected. I don't mind what no where man said or find it offensive but everyone has different perspectives. To talk about religion or philosophy isn't necessarily intended to convert anyone to a particular religion. Just like Christianity Buddhism has many small branches.
To me truth is truth where ever you find it so the things we could agree upon would be the place to start. You see if we could just find the things we agree upon rather than the things we disagree on the outcome would be positive rather than negative.
We all think we are right or that we don't know and really the positive aspect of life is what matters. The idea that there is purpose to life and that some attributes like honesty are good things to develop as we mature.
This thread was really just meant to answer some questions people have asked me about my beliefs and how you practice buddhism. Buddhists have as many different practice methods as Christians and Gongyo of this kind isn't all practicing buddhism or christianity involves. As Jethro Tull said, my GOD isn't the kind you have to wind up on Sunday.
Many are turned off by organized Christianity for what it has done. Most christian churches combine old judeasm and old pagen practices to create a pseudo christianity. The Catholic Church is one of them. I think it's evil and a perversion of what Christ was all about. So if you don't like a particular type of perverse christianity I dont mind at all.
But as the doobie brothers said, Jesus is just alright with me and I am sure he wouldn't fight with Buddha. Neithers followers do their master justice by doing that which they wouldn't do. Everyone has a right to say anything they want and to start any kind of thread. What is an open forum? Arent they all open forums? Why would discussion of these things be forbidden? This is the old stoners room and old stoners sometimes like to talk about religion.
I posted this for those interested and I have insulted no beliefs I hope.
Nam Myoho Renge kyo is a beautiful concept for certain. BOG
Thanks Tom and everyone who expressed an opinion because all beliefs should be respected. I don't mind what no where man said or find it offensive but everyone has different perspectives. To talk about religion or philosophy isn't necessarily intended to convert anyone to a particular religion. Just like Christianity Buddhism has many small branches.
To me truth is truth where ever you find it so the things we could agree upon would be the place to start. You see if we could just find the things we agree upon rather than the things we disagree on the outcome would be positive rather than negative.
We all think we are right or that we don't know and really the positive aspect of life is what matters. The idea that there is purpose to life and that some attributes like honesty are good things to develop as we mature.
This thread was really just meant to answer some questions people have asked me about my beliefs and how you practice buddhism. Buddhists have as many different practice methods as Christians and Gongyo of this kind isn't all practicing buddhism or christianity involves. As Jethro Tull said, my GOD isn't the kind you have to wind up on Sunday.
Many are turned off by organized Christianity for what it has done. Most christian churches combine old judeasm and old pagen practices to create a pseudo christianity. The Catholic Church is one of them. I think it's evil and a perversion of what Christ was all about. So if you don't like a particular type of perverse christianity I dont mind at all.
But as the doobie brothers said, Jesus is just alright with me and I am sure he wouldn't fight with Buddha. Neithers followers do their master justice by doing that which they wouldn't do. Everyone has a right to say anything they want and to start any kind of thread. What is an open forum? Arent they all open forums? Why would discussion of these things be forbidden? This is the old stoners room and old stoners sometimes like to talk about religion.
I posted this for those interested and I have insulted no beliefs I hope.
Nam Myoho Renge kyo is a beautiful concept for certain. BOG
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hey Indigo, ya know what? I could care less....if he does not want people knowing who he is then maybe he should stop preaching.........and since he already outed HIMSELF in another post to you and has since gone back and edited it...funny how ya don't mention that in your little hissy fit...did he get a public scolding too?...go take a long walk off a short pier will ya? fuckin hypocritical bullshit anyway
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Indigo said:Mountaindew - You have done something from my point of view unforgivable. There are many members here who have had to change their usernames for extremely grave and serious motives, top among them being security issues, to be able to continue posting. You are on a frigging CANNABIS forum....how DARE you use any other username when referring to someone who posted, that is not the username written next to the post. How DARE you potentially jeapordize another member's security? You did so obviously intentionally and obviously with malice.
I know one thing, you better stay the hell outta my way 'cause you've just revealed that you are a potential real danger to my own security and everybody else's on these boards. I won't trust you for a dime....and I'd urge other members here to be careful what info you give out about yourselves as obviously we have elements here that couldn't give a hoo-haa about security unless it pertains to themselves.
FOR SHAME!
Again folks, please excuse me....but this is something that just can't be let go unnoticed. I won't be bothering you folks here again, and will be reporting mountaindew's absolutely despicable behavior.
MD's post was not made with any malicious intentions. How do I know this? Because I am his other half. We are no threat to anyone's security here or anywhere. We have the same goals as all here, to grow our own, to be able to discuss our favorite plant with others, and to remain anonymous. Your public scolding of MD, insults him and me both. If you wanted to reprimand him for a very, IMO innocent slip, you should have sent a PM, instead of calling him out in front of class like he was a misbehaving schoolboy.
I don't see the title of admin, mentor, or guru under your name, so who are you to call him out on this crap?
MD may have thrown up the idea, but you confirmed it. Thank you very much.
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So what has this post turned into only after 3 pages. Conflicts, anger, licensed ministers trying to convince us about the one true path. Let's not waste time on this guys.
I had a talk about this with a friend of mine who prefers buddhism. She said, initially, that chrisitianity is too bloody and violent for her taste. A true buddha would never say that he is the son of god and let himself be killed...Think a little bit. Aren't we all God's children? Jesus was prepared for his sacrifice as are the buddhist monks who starve/choke themselves to death or set themselves on fire in protest. The majority of his life, as they say, Jesus spent in India (birthplace of buddha but also hinduism, ayurveda and many great human wisdoms)-what was he doing there-no one knows.
(Smoking joints with Sidharta? I always remember that South Park episode)
Jesus overcame death. Tibetan monks do a similiar thing to give faith to posterity.
This monk only ate tree bark the last year of his life and slowly choked himself to death. His body didn't decompose (partially cuz it had no bacteria) but also because he became a buddha in his lifetime.
A russian master was buried alive in a box where he disencarnated singing death mantras. He instructed his disciples to unearth his body 80 years later - the body was in a lotus very much preserved!
There is also an orthodox saint on top of mountain in my homeland. We had to hide him from the turks a couple of times and buried him under a river for 3 years. When they dag him out, he still didn't decompose. At times the remains of his body emits pleasent smell (frankincense) and many miracles are attributed to him. An italian shell hit his chapel in the first war and didn't explode, mentally ill (possesed) get better after visiting his tomb. The saint also only ate fruits and nuts and went everywhere barefoot (even on snow). There are many stories of his healings that orthodox, catholics, jews and muslims swear by.
Catholics have quite a few such "miracles" but they are phonie as the bodies were embalmed after death. Bleeding Maries, father Pio etc.
I frankly consider catholicism (popes) and everything else that mutated from it (protestants, evangelists.. etc...licensed ministers etc...) to be an abomination of the true orthodox christian faith. Just like the rastas, for whom the pope = devil. Prophecies say that the antichrist comes thru a corrupt church and there are many today. Thats why all the orthodox countries (mainly russia, serbia) have been faced with destruction, mainly from the US. Buddhism has been almost wiped out in Tibet. But we have instant salvation on TV, just donate $$$.
I respect all people of all faiths and have no right to judge or patronize anybody, but I am no fool.
I am a christian, bound by my ancestors and my heart, but for some things that I don't agree with (not praying for unbaptized souls, sin, guilt etc...) I turn to budhism. I was an atheist and mainly thru study of budhism i started my spiritual path.
Bible has been modified by jews and catholics so I don't take it word for word.
Buddhists never wiped out or enslaved entire nations, instead they even pray for ants. Western chrisitians (born out of the decadence of rome) believe that you will enter heaven simply by going to church on sundays and beliveing in Christ, but when they pass a beggar on the street, they don't turn. True budhists work on their salvation daily (not having to reincarnate again.) by having pure thoughts and doing good deeds. As Ghandy said:
the laws of karma are so strong that God need not interfere!
And I really cannot name a war waged in the name of Budha.
So much for now. My heart saddens when I see how little people know and care to know.
read and study!
here is the tibetan mummie:
http://www.visuals.co.uk/tibetan_selfmade_mummy.asp@2
I had a talk about this with a friend of mine who prefers buddhism. She said, initially, that chrisitianity is too bloody and violent for her taste. A true buddha would never say that he is the son of god and let himself be killed...Think a little bit. Aren't we all God's children? Jesus was prepared for his sacrifice as are the buddhist monks who starve/choke themselves to death or set themselves on fire in protest. The majority of his life, as they say, Jesus spent in India (birthplace of buddha but also hinduism, ayurveda and many great human wisdoms)-what was he doing there-no one knows.
(Smoking joints with Sidharta? I always remember that South Park episode)
Jesus overcame death. Tibetan monks do a similiar thing to give faith to posterity.
This monk only ate tree bark the last year of his life and slowly choked himself to death. His body didn't decompose (partially cuz it had no bacteria) but also because he became a buddha in his lifetime.
A russian master was buried alive in a box where he disencarnated singing death mantras. He instructed his disciples to unearth his body 80 years later - the body was in a lotus very much preserved!
There is also an orthodox saint on top of mountain in my homeland. We had to hide him from the turks a couple of times and buried him under a river for 3 years. When they dag him out, he still didn't decompose. At times the remains of his body emits pleasent smell (frankincense) and many miracles are attributed to him. An italian shell hit his chapel in the first war and didn't explode, mentally ill (possesed) get better after visiting his tomb. The saint also only ate fruits and nuts and went everywhere barefoot (even on snow). There are many stories of his healings that orthodox, catholics, jews and muslims swear by.
Catholics have quite a few such "miracles" but they are phonie as the bodies were embalmed after death. Bleeding Maries, father Pio etc.
I frankly consider catholicism (popes) and everything else that mutated from it (protestants, evangelists.. etc...licensed ministers etc...) to be an abomination of the true orthodox christian faith. Just like the rastas, for whom the pope = devil. Prophecies say that the antichrist comes thru a corrupt church and there are many today. Thats why all the orthodox countries (mainly russia, serbia) have been faced with destruction, mainly from the US. Buddhism has been almost wiped out in Tibet. But we have instant salvation on TV, just donate $$$.
I respect all people of all faiths and have no right to judge or patronize anybody, but I am no fool.
I am a christian, bound by my ancestors and my heart, but for some things that I don't agree with (not praying for unbaptized souls, sin, guilt etc...) I turn to budhism. I was an atheist and mainly thru study of budhism i started my spiritual path.
Bible has been modified by jews and catholics so I don't take it word for word.
Buddhists never wiped out or enslaved entire nations, instead they even pray for ants. Western chrisitians (born out of the decadence of rome) believe that you will enter heaven simply by going to church on sundays and beliveing in Christ, but when they pass a beggar on the street, they don't turn. True budhists work on their salvation daily (not having to reincarnate again.) by having pure thoughts and doing good deeds. As Ghandy said:
the laws of karma are so strong that God need not interfere!
And I really cannot name a war waged in the name of Budha.
So much for now. My heart saddens when I see how little people know and care to know.
read and study!
here is the tibetan mummie:
http://www.visuals.co.uk/tibetan_selfmade_mummy.asp@2
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Based on the way this thread has brought out the 'best' in some folks, easy to see
why there has been, and will always continue to be, religious wars....wars based on
(basically) religious differences/beliefs, but in todays age can add a bit of oil greed also.
Thanks,
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why there has been, and will always continue to be, religious wars....wars based on
(basically) religious differences/beliefs, but in todays age can add a bit of oil greed also.
Thanks,
dg
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I don't feel as if I can answer this question/poll correctly because we only know Jesus and Prince Siddhartha through parables and written accounts. I only speak for myself but, I feel that Buddhists generally discourage splitting things into black and white categories such as “Jesus was this”, or “Jesus was more like that”: The truth is Jesus and the Buddha are many things to many people, and it might be better to focus on similarities instead of differences and try to see beyond simple stereotypes and classifications.
After saying that, I agree that the Jesus I know is very similar to the Buddha I know for obvious reasons.
Above all, I believe what both Jesus and the Buddha would have wanted from us is to recognize our own thoughts, beliefs, and opinions for what they are and to recognize we are living other peoples’ dogma. The message I get from them is research everything yourself, always doubt yourself. Buddhism isn’t concerned with telling you who Jesus was, or who the Buddha was, Buddhism is concerned with getting you to find out for yourself who Jesus was, or who the Buddha was, and to never be satisfied with a single answer always knowing that you will wake up to another one.
I’m glad people on this forum debate and meditate on these religious and metaphysical truths. I’m glad this forum hosts people who at least recognize these things? Bless us all I say and let us free ourselves from our own dogma by not attaching ourselves to it.
We are always right to some, while being wrong to others.
After saying that, I agree that the Jesus I know is very similar to the Buddha I know for obvious reasons.
Above all, I believe what both Jesus and the Buddha would have wanted from us is to recognize our own thoughts, beliefs, and opinions for what they are and to recognize we are living other peoples’ dogma. The message I get from them is research everything yourself, always doubt yourself. Buddhism isn’t concerned with telling you who Jesus was, or who the Buddha was, Buddhism is concerned with getting you to find out for yourself who Jesus was, or who the Buddha was, and to never be satisfied with a single answer always knowing that you will wake up to another one.
I’m glad people on this forum debate and meditate on these religious and metaphysical truths. I’m glad this forum hosts people who at least recognize these things? Bless us all I say and let us free ourselves from our own dogma by not attaching ourselves to it.
We are always right to some, while being wrong to others.
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It does make people think and sometimes get angry to discuss these things but often people like to seek truth. We all do this in differing ways but the delusion we suffer from it the idea that we are all different instead of the same. Even I had a hard time realizing that we are all the same.
People like to think they are real individual Gods in themselves but often the GOD concept is a fallacy. Do you really think that some guy is sitting up there somewhere intervening in human affairs?
A science teacher in my catholic school once answered my question about whether he believed in GOD of not and he said, "I do but I dont think he pulls rabbits out of hats."
That answer satisfied me. He was a very smart guy I guess.
To me we can all share the cosmic consciousness and this is the cosmic spirit but its different than the GOD concept. I see it as a life wave throughout the universe with many laws of physics and spirituality intertwined. We evolve and change but did we ever really begin?
So what is reality really. Is there anything permenant? What is the concept of emptiness? Who are you really? These questions and what will happen when you appear to die are fun things to thing about. There is no reason to defend your beliefs really because when others state their beliefs it means no more than when you state yours.
Being kind to each other is human though and everyone here is kind I think. We can easily step on each others toes and perhaps I did that too. I probably insulted some Catholics but it wasnt my intention. Surely there are many enlightened Catholics.
What is enlightenment? Its wisdom and knowledge of the truth. That's all. BOG
People like to think they are real individual Gods in themselves but often the GOD concept is a fallacy. Do you really think that some guy is sitting up there somewhere intervening in human affairs?
A science teacher in my catholic school once answered my question about whether he believed in GOD of not and he said, "I do but I dont think he pulls rabbits out of hats."
That answer satisfied me. He was a very smart guy I guess.
To me we can all share the cosmic consciousness and this is the cosmic spirit but its different than the GOD concept. I see it as a life wave throughout the universe with many laws of physics and spirituality intertwined. We evolve and change but did we ever really begin?
So what is reality really. Is there anything permenant? What is the concept of emptiness? Who are you really? These questions and what will happen when you appear to die are fun things to thing about. There is no reason to defend your beliefs really because when others state their beliefs it means no more than when you state yours.
Being kind to each other is human though and everyone here is kind I think. We can easily step on each others toes and perhaps I did that too. I probably insulted some Catholics but it wasnt my intention. Surely there are many enlightened Catholics.
What is enlightenment? Its wisdom and knowledge of the truth. That's all. BOG
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I'm going to meditate on this in a tree. NWM did present himself (as his former) to you Indigo in another thread on the Open Boards (this has been changed. Perhaps someone "learned" something). Maybe he should have done that privately. Discretion is the word for the day. Now back to the religon. I offer you the 5th and 6th paragraph in the Embodiment of Tao from the Tao Te Ching (translated by S.Rosenthal)
Both knowledge and experience are real,
but reality has many forms,
which seem to cause complexity.
By using the means appropriate,
we extend ourselves beyond
the barriers of such complexity,
and so experience the Tao.
Both knowledge and experience are real,
but reality has many forms,
which seem to cause complexity.
By using the means appropriate,
we extend ourselves beyond
the barriers of such complexity,
and so experience the Tao.
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Now that is profound and all are excellent questions. My knowledge is limited but it seems that the Buddha in latter teachings refuted some of the earlier teachings also passed down himself and from other manifestations of the buddha.
In the lotus sutra I believe it mentions that women and indeed possibly even animals have reached enlightenment. That enlightenment is possible for any man or woman seems to be the more current view of modern buddhism I'm studying. There are many forms of buddhism and differing old schools of buddhism.
Learning the principles in buddhism of living good Dharma is a lot like learning what is moral and correct from the bible or many ancient religious texts. You see there are many common truths most religions agree upon. Even when seemingly opposite I feel Christianity and Buddhism aren't as different as people think.
You see in most of Christianity reincarnation seems rejected but both buddhism and christianity believe in salvation either by resurrection or reincarnation. My belief is that reincarnation is real and that it accomplishes what resurrection promises. So both views could be essentially correct in fact while appearing opposed at first.
In Christianity you find old sexist views in the old testament as well and these ideas evolve in what appears to be a parellel manner among the religions so perhaps they all evolve along similar lines. If you look back at ancient Hinduism that sprung up about the same time as Buddhism there was belief in GODs sort of like ancient pagens. The Christians would call them pagan gods.
Later the Jews had evolved to believing in one GOD instead and this was a step toward a new GOD concept still budding. Jesus spoke of it too.
We continue to evolve and all rivers lead to the same deep sea of truth. This truth isnt nothing. It's a lot of things and not simple at all. You see the more you look into a subject the more complicated it becomes. Our universe is very complicated indeed and all the history of our people seems of interest to me.
Religion and philosophy are a big part of our history actually creating the events due to the cause of the beliefs. So beliefs have real power to change. A prophet can come along and tell the truth again in a new way slightly evolved for the time and the culture just like jesus did. The Buddha appears to pass into extinction but never does and is always working to teach others how they might attain the body of a buddha.
When you meet the buddha eventually he will tell you how hard it is to meet him. How rare it is even to become human at all and what an achievement enlightenment really is. We can be there some day at Eagles Peak and we won't be meditating on nothingness but on real concepts like nothingness.
Believe me because I believe what I am saying. forgive my inability. BOG
In the lotus sutra I believe it mentions that women and indeed possibly even animals have reached enlightenment. That enlightenment is possible for any man or woman seems to be the more current view of modern buddhism I'm studying. There are many forms of buddhism and differing old schools of buddhism.
Learning the principles in buddhism of living good Dharma is a lot like learning what is moral and correct from the bible or many ancient religious texts. You see there are many common truths most religions agree upon. Even when seemingly opposite I feel Christianity and Buddhism aren't as different as people think.
You see in most of Christianity reincarnation seems rejected but both buddhism and christianity believe in salvation either by resurrection or reincarnation. My belief is that reincarnation is real and that it accomplishes what resurrection promises. So both views could be essentially correct in fact while appearing opposed at first.
In Christianity you find old sexist views in the old testament as well and these ideas evolve in what appears to be a parellel manner among the religions so perhaps they all evolve along similar lines. If you look back at ancient Hinduism that sprung up about the same time as Buddhism there was belief in GODs sort of like ancient pagens. The Christians would call them pagan gods.
Later the Jews had evolved to believing in one GOD instead and this was a step toward a new GOD concept still budding. Jesus spoke of it too.
We continue to evolve and all rivers lead to the same deep sea of truth. This truth isnt nothing. It's a lot of things and not simple at all. You see the more you look into a subject the more complicated it becomes. Our universe is very complicated indeed and all the history of our people seems of interest to me.
Religion and philosophy are a big part of our history actually creating the events due to the cause of the beliefs. So beliefs have real power to change. A prophet can come along and tell the truth again in a new way slightly evolved for the time and the culture just like jesus did. The Buddha appears to pass into extinction but never does and is always working to teach others how they might attain the body of a buddha.
When you meet the buddha eventually he will tell you how hard it is to meet him. How rare it is even to become human at all and what an achievement enlightenment really is. We can be there some day at Eagles Peak and we won't be meditating on nothingness but on real concepts like nothingness.
Believe me because I believe what I am saying. forgive my inability. BOG
