Foliar feeding and tlo/organics

[!PeAcE!]

I like to find algae that has volcanic activity in the water its being created in. Some lakes over with just that goin on. The cool thing is to find out through experiments if there is some ability of algae that can be unlocked through manipulating the atmosphere setting up different variables.

 

[SeaMaiden]

Peace, I know almost nothing about microcystins, but I believe they're already present in a given culture of cyano. What I don't know is if they're present in *all* cultures of cyanobacteria, nor in what ratios

I think it's important for folks to understand, this is not algae in any way, shape or form. It is a family of bacteria that have an ability to utilize very low levels of available N and P. Often their presence is a sign of serious imbalance in an aquatic system. What remains, though, after the cyanos have dried out I do not know, but I'm inclined to think perhaps they would sporulate, which would allow spread into nearby bodies of water. That may not be such a good thing, depending on how you've sourced it (local body of water/aquarium? then it's already flying around in the air).

Anyway, the point is that I don't know that you can equate this to kelp (more properly called macroalgae, as opposed to microalgae, which is what most folks mistake cyanobacteria for, an algal mat), in part because I don't know that it sequesters the same ranges of nutrients, and in part because it's a bacteria.

So much great info, and I do agree, why not grow/make your own instead of buying something in a bottle. Is there a specific source for blue/green algae? One foliar I've used at regular intervals with great results is organicare's seaplex - cold pressed seaweed, seems to make plants exceptionally happy.

Nearest low-to-no-flow body of water, depending on conditions, should be the best, most easily available source.

 

[!PeAcE!]

Peace, I know almost nothing about microcystins, but I believe they're already present in a given culture of cyano. What I don't know is if they're present in *all* cultures of cyanobacteria, nor in what ratios

I think it's important for folks to understand, this is not algae in any way, shape or form. It is a family of bacteria that have an ability to utilize very low levels of available N and P. Often their presence is a sign of serious imbalance in an aquatic system. What remains, though, after the cyanos have dried out I do not know, but I'm inclined to think perhaps they would sporulate, which would allow spread into nearby bodies of water. That may not be such a good thing, depending on how you've sourced it (local body of water/aquarium? then it's already flying around in the air).

Anyway, the point is that I don't know that you can equate this to kelp (more properly called macroalgae, as opposed to microalgae, which is what most folks mistake cyanobacteria for, an algal mat), in part because I don't know that it sequesters the same ranges of nutrients, and in part because it's a bacteria.

Nearest low-to-no-flow body of water, depending on conditions, should be the best, most easily available source.

yes microcystins are present in algae, the degree to toxicity levels is another question. This is why I want to tamper around with uv lighting to see if I can make the bacteria sterile I know thats a contradictory sentence saying the word bacteria and sterile but I should say I would try keeping the bloom of the cyano going while keeping microcystins at bay. I agree a lot of research needs to be done, but im fnding a ton of great stuff ill be sure to post up the links. Hey this could all lead to nowhere but itd be fun to see the results whether good or bad...hopefully good though lol. Basically am going to start the research toying with the algae first, testing culture potentcy with cyano and microcystins...I guess id have to do this in a very safe place with lots of ventilation and a resporator mask to prevent inhalation of possible microcystin floating in the air, because I wouldnt want to toy around with this idea any longer if I cant keep microcystins out of the count, not worth getting an infection of any kind. I wonder if there is a compound I could use to dilute a mixture with that can act as a microcystin inhibitor while leaving the cyano alone....back to google!!