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floros on corners of growtent,anyone try this ?

i have 120cm X120cm X 200cm grow tent with sunmaster 600W dual spectrum hps.

my plants are second week of flowering. i grow 7 girls.
i am thinking of putting 4 X 36W ( 120cm ) flouroscents on the corners of my grow tent .( 1X 36W floro for each corner )

is it good idea ? is there anyone try that ?

temp is between 20 and 28 ( even 30 sometimes ) .if i put floros, will temp increase ?

PS: i have good air circulation.
 
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CMoon

I feel some flak comming:yoinks: but here gos

Il start by saying I love flo tube grows so im not knocking there ability to grow excellent pot.......just I feel even if you where useing 5 foot tubes or bigger the setting up of the operation with wireing and fixings would contribute very little includeing added saftey aspects and a very sometimes overlooked point = peace of mind.

Ive grown in the same size tent more then a few years and run 1200watts climate permitting, but if your looking to improve wattage/yeild and possibly quality' for simular upgarde in wattage ( and a proven grow method) id look at a 250 MH and small reflector:joint:

just my take on things bud.....im sure someone will take me to task over it:laughing:

bests cmoon
 
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cellardweller

I think what everyone will agree on is the fact that mixed spectrum lighting has been proven time and time again.

I used 4-48" 40w floro tubes in conjunction with a 400w HPS, and had great results. Temps didn't seem to rise too much.
 
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CMoon

I used 4-48" 40w floro tubes in conjunction with a 400w HPS, and had great results

any pictures bruv? i loves lighting debates! whats the best youve done with 400' and how many grams did the 160 watts of flo add to your previous best figure:yeahthats

reg cmoon
 
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cellardweller

hang on...

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I cant honestly say how much it added in weight, but I can say that they def. added density..
 
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Gobwats

Both the heat and the effect will depend largely upon the bulbs you use. I did this using 4 55wT5HO units with 6500K bulbs and it did help, but it also raised my temps by about 10 degrees F in a DR80. While growing under CFL's (125w x 2) this was not an issue, but since going to an HPS (400w) I have turned the extra lights off as I was drawing too much current (our condo has the shittiest wiring I have ever encountered) for the circuits I had available to my grow room (kept tripping the breaker every time something else on that line got turned on.) I saw a noticeable difference in the development of the lower buds, but as mentioned, I saw a lot more heat as well; small cooling fans helped this part, but added to the current draw.
 
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cellardweller

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I tried finding better shots in my old gallery, but I dunno where the heck they are..
 
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CMoon

Thats some nice buddage dude........

but thats not a 1.2 m growtent.......if you feel the extra consumption was value for money then fair play but' ime in that size tent useing the correct ventilation rates his best use of funds would be spent on a second M/H -hps 250/400/600 (take your pick).......duelspectrums like sunmasters or grolux......even son-t will give greater coverage, and useing a rotation method with solid genetics will double the yeild watt per watt over any added sidelighting from flouresant tubes of whatever kelvin rateing or wattage.....fact:joint:
 
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purpledomgoddes

if adding floros, would add 40w uvb bulbs.
they will provide more influence upon plants than regular floros.
reproductive gladular production will increase w/ their presence.
when adding lights to garden, have always added what is not present. from uvb, to daylight floros, to party lights, to 50-100w hps security lights. object is to mix as many spectrums as possible.
sunlight is 450 par watts per sq.meter. best bulb combos may get to 250-300 par watts, where leaves max out on photon absorption.

hope this helps. enjoy your garden!
 
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CMoon

if adding floros, would add 40w uvb bulbs.
they will provide more influence upon plants than regular floros.
reproductive gladular production will increase w/ their presence.
when adding lights to garden, have always added what is not present. from uvb, to daylight floros, to party lights, to 50-100w hps security lights. object is to mix as many spectrums as possible.
sunlight is 450 par watts per sq.meter. best bulb combos may get to 250-300 par watts, where leaves max out on photon absorption.

hope this helps. enjoy your garden!


intresting:joint: any grow pics to support it?
 
I think what everyone will agree on is the fact that mixed spectrum lighting has been proven time and time again.

I used 4-48" 40w floro tubes in conjunction with a 400w HPS, and had great results. Temps didn't seem to rise too much.

what do you mean with " mixed spectrum " ? i will use 2700K floros with my dual spectrum hps ,you say i should use 6500K ?
isnt 2700K good for flowering ? i am very newbie.

And as to temp, cant i use remote ballast for floros to decrease temp ?

i dont wanna use another HID because it is summer and temp will be higher soon here .

i think , floros wont emit so much temp( maybe there would be 1 C difference after putting floros,IMO ) if they are used with remote ballast system ,will they ?

@purpledomgoddes

UVB lamps are expensive bro :S .
i cant buy them .

and what spectrum bulb do i need ? as i told ,i use 600W dual spectrum hps and i know that 2700k is the best for flowering so should i add more 2700K bulbs ?

thanks.
 
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purpledomgoddes

intresting:joint: any grow pics to support it?

no, no pics to "support it". what exactly is to be supported? dont post pics of an imaginary/fictional garden.

written descriptions should suffice. if not, can write even more detailed info re the gardening topic.

just here, in open forum on internet, to share data. use what is good+works, avoid what does not work in own garden. maybe try a few novel approaches out.

pics prove nothing. there is nothing to prove anyway. if the methods described are useful - use them. if not, dont. not trying to be hostile. every indv. has own boundaries, esp in open public forum.

not here to convince, persuade, make friends, or be validated.

"This site is for educational and entertainment purposes only... All postings are the responsibility of their authors." -from bottom of this page. very important.

enjoy your garden!
 
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purpledomgoddes

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kelvin temp color index+light color in nanometer wavelength

this may clarify what you are seeking. kelvin, nm wavelength, color are all interchangeable, once you know where they overlap.

so, 2700k seems to be in the orange/red are of color, or ~650nm wavelength. if orange/red is the color you desire, then that is the correct bulb for you.

48" 40w uvb bulbs are ~forty pieces of gold, per light. can use 1+1 regular daylight floro in dual 40w fixture. they also make 36", and 24" uvb bulbs for less gold.
more expensive than reg floros, but return on investment is tastier fruits @ end of season. more effective @ influencing plant than reg floro. but to each their own.
 
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cellardweller

Thats some nice buddage dude........

but thats not a 1.2 m growtent.......if you feel the extra consumption was value for money then fair play but' ime in that size tent useing the correct ventilation rates his best use of funds would be spent on a second M/H -hps 250/400/600 (take your pick).......duelspectrums like sunmasters or grolux......even son-t will give greater coverage, and useing a rotation method with solid genetics will double the yeild watt per watt over any added sidelighting from flouresant tubes of whatever kelvin rateing or wattage.....fact:joint:


nope..never said it was.. :joint:
.and I agree with you fully on using the duel spectrum lighting setup, I just never had the fundage for it..

thanks for the compliment!
 
magic,

can your plants touch floros ?

and dont you have oscillating fans ?

Wher is your floro ballast ? do you use remote ballast or is your ballast in fixture ?
 

magiccannabus

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Yeah my buds are against tubes all the time, never bothers them at all, especially because my airflow goes from bottom to top. I don't use any fans, I don't have room to let them sway around, plus the updraft is more than enough air. All the ballasts are in the fixtures, at the tops near the vents. You can see them in the photo on a couple of the back lights, between the tubes.
 
that is interesting bro. i had cfl bulbs and even they are pretty hot especially when i dont use oscilatting fans blow through CFLs .

are Floros cooler than CFL bulbs ?
 
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