Florida Growers Thread

[Guest 88950]

that bill will effect deticated head shops. i can go to just about any gas station around me and buy glass pipes, bongs, screens etc..and one i has hookas.

i thought the bill specified that 20% of sales had to be non smoking stuff. ill check in to that.

you can still buy glass online so its not like were having to go all McGuyver and shit...using beer cans, apples and whatever else.

 

[Dawn Patrol]

well ultimately most glass blowers sell to head shops so ipso facto (or insert correct Latin legal term here) they will be affected as well.

Actually as I understand it, the questionable part of this law is proof of the store's sales in dollars and cents. The law requires (as I understand it) that 75% of a store's sales need to be in tobacco products to be able to sell the aforementioned smoking devices without penalty.

While the letter of the law is succinct, the only way to prove a crime is to look at the books (accounting documents) of said business and the only legal way to do this without the business owners consent is with a warrant, and the only way to (legally) obtain a warrant (corruption notwithstanding) is to show probable cause.

Now I'm not a lawyer, I don't play one on TV and I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night. If you are a lawyer and can correct any inaccuracies herein, PLEASE do so ASAP!!!

That said, the only way I see this happening is if a local law enforcement agency cozies up to a local judge to get a warrant to look at the books of a business and tries to go after them that way.

I've lived in FLA almost all my life so when this happens (and it will), I won't be surprised. But as long as the business owner lawyers up I expect that they will be able to fight this as long as they have the $$ to pay the attorney fees and if they are lucky, they may get some pro bono work from some of the attorneys who are interested in preserving individual rights.

I'm glad the business owners are banding together to try to fight this with numbers. I really think that is the best way to approach this fight.

That said, I would be very cautious about approaching any local business that might sell these products. I would encourage you to support them, but be smart about it.

Don't park your vehicle in their parking lot

Obscure your vehicle tag in a "legal" way

Yes it's hot outside, but understand that they may be under surveillance so a short walk to visit them is not a great sacrifice.

Don't forget to make yourself inconspicuous. Don't wear clothing that you normally wear, or any identifiable jewelry, hats, glasses, jerseys, shoes or any other clothing item that may be used to ID you.

Pay with cash. Keeps you anonymous and gives the owner the maximum profit he can make which he then may have to use to pay his attorney(s).

Its late, I'm rambling but some food for thought here . . . . .

 

[TeaHateSea]

Onward Christian Soldiers....marching off to war....with the cross of Jesus....going on before (scariest fucking song ever).

No doubt! Sounds like a soundtrack to a Zombie movie......I apologize Christians and Zombies alike. No foul intended.

 

[Kush Farmer]

I apologize Christians and Zombies alike. No foul intended.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Why is that soo funny?

 

[THINKING GREEN]

Hi ,
this is not correct. It is determined by the amout of tobbacco and / or herbal blends being sold. the ratio is 75-1. Meaning the pipe may cost $100.00 , the herbal/tobbacco will cost $300.00.
This is sold as a package deal only. Its Happy Meal Time...cw

I don't know if what I wrote was correct, matter of fact I think I put that in there. I just know what the guy told me. What he told me was that he would not be affected by the new law in that he would not have to shut shop down. He will only be affected by the big increase in taxes in which he would have to let the affect ot them roll on down to the next person. ( the customer ).

 

[THINKING GREEN]

well ultimately most glass blowers sell to head shops so ipso facto (or insert correct Latin legal term here) they will be affected as well.

Actually as I understand it, the questionable part of this law is proof of the store's sales in dollars and cents. The law requires (as I understand it) that 75% of a store's sales need to be in tobacco products to be able to sell the aforementioned smoking devices without penalty.

While the letter of the law is succinct, the only way to prove a crime is to look at the books (accounting documents) of said business and the only legal way to do this without the business owners consent is with a warrant, and the only way to (legally) obtain a warrant (corruption notwithstanding) is to show probable cause.

Now I'm not a lawyer, I don't play one on TV and I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night. If you are a lawyer and can correct any inaccuracies herein, PLEASE do so ASAP!!!

That said, the only way I see this happening is if a local law enforcement agency cozies up to a local judge to get a warrant to look at the books of a business and tries to go after them that way.

I've lived in FLA almost all my life so when this happens (and it will), I won't be surprised. But as long as the business owner lawyers up I expect that they will be able to fight this as long as they have the $$ to pay the attorney fees and if they are lucky, they may get some pro bono work from some of the attorneys who are interested in preserving individual rights.

I'm glad the business owners are banding together to try to fight this with numbers. I really think that is the best way to approach this fight.

That said, I would be very cautious about approaching any local business that might sell these products. I would encourage you to support them, but be smart about it.

Don't park your vehicle in their parking lot

Obscure your vehicle tag in a "legal" way

Yes it's hot outside, but understand that they may be under surveillance so a short walk to visit them is not a great sacrifice.

Don't forget to make yourself inconspicuous. Don't wear clothing that you normally wear, or any identifiable jewelry, hats, glasses, jerseys, shoes or any other clothing item that may be used to ID you.

Pay with cash. Keeps you anonymous and gives the owner the maximum profit he can make which he then may have to use to pay his attorney(s).

Its late, I'm rambling but some food for thought here . . . . .

TY Dawn for your input and advise.

 

[komrade komura]

Zombies and Christians....there is a difference?

 

[MagniKhan]

Zombies and Christians....there is a difference?

I don't think so , in MY experience, the one is completely dead, devoid of soul and heart. And , well it go's without saying,...completely absent of any brain activity whats so ever.

They should be avoided at all cost, though it seems there effects can be felt at great distances,.. in the complete defiance of all that is holy, pure or even logical.
Don't not under any circumstances, confront one with intelligent, logical statements... or worse yet, common sence. This causes them to be come frothing,violent,flailing mindless beasts capable of untold atrocities, completely and unequivocally dangerous to you and the community.

Confronting them MUST ONLY BE DONE BY TRAINED PROFESSIONALS, PERIOD.

And the other,...well,..I've never seen a Zombie.

MK

 

[komrade komura]

Funny Shit Khan!!

 

[komrade komura]

Ah...week one of flowering for my little White Russian girls is complete.

Not too much stretch...but I ain't out that phase yet.

Cab is going to go through massive upgrade over the next two weeks....carbon filters, fans and new cooltube.

If anyone knows where I can find a really stealthy cabinet lock for double doors, please lemme know. right now I am leaning towards magnetic locks with a stealth release button on top of the cab. But I will consider anything that does not result in a wardrobe in the bedroom with a padlock on it.

Gotta run to another meeting now. Boring and stupid.

 

[TeaHateSea]

If anyone knows where I can find a really stealthy cabinet lock for double doors, please lemme know. right now I am leaning towards magnetic locks with a stealth release button on top of the cab. But I will consider anything that does not result in a wardrobe in the bedroom with a padlock on it.

What about an internal pin/latch that automatically locks when closed and can be disengaged by placing a rare earth magnet on the outer surface? Sort of like this maybe but using the magnet as a key.

 

[toasted1]

sup ppl welcome to all the new cats

yea that law is fuckd but easly gotten around by 3 packs of bugler for a $110 and get the $100 bong for free and 75% of that sell was tobacco

on a side note spossed to b goin down to the glades today with a buddy thats uncle has a "house" if u could call it that where he lives out n the middle of the everglades that u havta take a airboat to get 2
his uncles been growin out there for bout 30 years well hes close to death and has his best seed stock he wants to give to some1 that will pop them

thats all i know for now i dont know how old the seeds are "he dont have a fridge" or how many ill b gettn but i willl report back when i get back from there

i cant wait cuz ive smoked his uncles weed b4 bout 10 years ago had me stuck to the ground with gravity and i could feel the earth rotate and it pulled me down and i couldnt get off the ground for atleast 30 min and laughed my ass off all night long


stay safe
1

 

[Igotyourback]

Toasted1
That would be the best place to see if he has Okeechobee Purple, If any one would have those old seeds He Would

And if so just let me no and We will work some thing out WOW I would love to get that started here in Fl. Again

 

[Guest 88950]

right on Toasted, keep us updated and enjoy the airboat ride.

gravity. thats some heavy shit.

 

[TeaHateSea]

Toasted1
That would be the best place to see if he has Okeechobee Purple,

It's been years since I've heard anyone mention OP, it's like a flashback to the Gainesville Green days.

 

[THINKING GREEN]

I must be well younger than everybody on here, because I've never even heard of any of those strains. Oh well, I would love to give some of them Fla. strains a go. Keep in touch Toasted and stay away from the Gaytors. Sorry I'm a Seminole fan and that's how we spell that god awfull word. LOL.

 

[Meaty]

on a side note spossed to b goin down to the glades today with a buddy thats uncle has a "house" if u could call it that where he lives out n the middle of the everglades that u havta take a airboat to get 2
his uncles been growin out there for bout 30 years well hes close to death and has his best seed stock he wants to give to some1 that will pop them

That sounds like fun! Be great to see some genetics that have been bred in this climate for all those years.

gravity. thats some heavy shit.

 

[roller24]

Florida's Youngest Pothead

Florida's Youngest Pothead

I forget which town , this came out of....Mom posted it on her facebook.
She may lose the child over this.

 

[THINKING GREEN]

I forget which town , this came out of....Mom posted it on her facebook.
She may lose the child over this.

That's not even close to being f'n funny. That actually pisses me off. I know we are trying to change the laws and what not but that right there is steering us in the wrong f'n direction. You damn right she should lose her child, at least for a little bit. I'm not saying forever but that is totally unexceptible. Sh!t like this is what fuc%s all of us up, dumb a$$ people I swear. I have to go vent now with me and miss pink kush. ARRRRRRRRRR. Iresponsible parents.

 

[Relentless]

That's not even close to being f'n funny. That actually pisses me off. I know we are trying to change the laws and what not but that right there is steering us in the wrong f'n direction. You damn right she should lose her child, at least for a little bit. I'm not saying forever but that is totally unexceptible. Sh!t like this is what fuc%s all of us up, dumb a$$ people I swear. I have to go vent now with me and miss pink kush. ARRRRRRRRRR. Iresponsible parents.

couldnt have said it better.