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Florida Growers Thread; Reloaded

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Catatafish

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Yea im not really a fan of foxtails either. I have had heat do it and it can get ugly. Pretty much in the same boat as stih about them.

Went out of town and someone did me a "favor" and turned my ac up since i wasnt home.....came home to some seriously ugly tail action on some sativas that normally dont do it as bad as they were. like an inch of clean stem between calyx's and shit.
 

gh0st9

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If you're lookin to grabbing some more WW thats fem RR, look into grabbing some Female Seeds WW, sorted through a few packs a few years back, found some sick phenos, and super stable, reliable.. Never kept any, just not up to my snuff.
 

RockinRobot

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I still have a couple seeds left. I got 2 completely different Phenos in the 2 I have going so far. The first in the pictures above is very compact and bushy with small leaves. Nodes are like 1/2" to 1" apart. Wasn't even able to train it to the net cause the nodes were too close.

The other is a very sativa like Pheno but I am having issues with it. Can't seem to find a Ph it likes. Shows Cal/Mag def no matter what I do. At 6.0-6.1 the ones in flower are doing a little better but they still show cal/mag def and weird variegated leaves. Flowering them anyway and will work with the clones to see if I can find a Ph they like. If the smoke is crap i'll just ditch the pheno.

If anyone has suggestions on helping this Pheno I'm all ears.





 
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komrade komura

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Looking good RR.

I grew some white widow a couple pf years ago...think it was Dutch Passion, but I could be wrong. Great plants, nice and strong. But it made me eat everything in sight. Serious munchies smoke.
 

bucketswithsoil

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:plant grow::whee:

back to the drawing board all 8clones popped legs, guess ill veg for a couple weeks(ill put them in bigger pots), then toss into FLW,ill keep a couple in veg that look rather strong....ive been JONESING to give this girl a samplein smoke...but the last pics prove to see that aint gonna happen...haha,im a knucklehead...

enjoy ya weekends boys and.girls....
 

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Hey RR, My latest round of abusive for my ladies.....this time letting salts build up I think.

Started getting taco leaves......in addition to my foxtail thingy going on......So I hope I have problem figured out. When another Jack Herer started throwing them I thought this is just not coincidence but something I am doing wrong. Temps have been ok 79 high.....64 low in last week and RH has been 41 to 68%.

Decided to do something I never do and check run off and here are the results....

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]coco-coir and I am flushing them with tap water/final flush......and got this one first gallon in.....1/3 gallon out on average.

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1.2 EC @ 6.2 pH out on least affected plant
1.5 EC @ 6.2 pH out on more affected plant
2.0 EC @ 6.2 pH out on worst plant
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I let salts build up in my medium :asskick:as I never feed above 1.2 EC......

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Checking run off will be on the "TO DO" list from now on of course.
 

Aspenou812

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unreg i have herd and seen that testing the runoff in coco is about useless unless you use the slurry method that's a major pain in the ass, just testing my 6 pots ill have 6 very different returns on the runoff and i use the drip system to water, same media, same plants. to prevent the salt build up you can simply add a flush day to your water cycle every so often!
 

RockinRobot

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Well last night and today was my first attempt at edibles.

I made some coconut oil overnight then some brownies today.

Used about 1/2 oz of trim from my last harvest to 14 oz coconut oil in double boiler for ~10 hours.

My SO tried a 1"x1" square and got ripped. (Wish it was that easy for me) I will have to cut my oil down so she can eat a regular size brownie. A 1"x1" brownie is a real TEASE to the taste buds.
 

stihgnobevoli

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I still have a couple seeds left. I got 2 completely different Phenos in the 2 I have going so far. The first in the pictures above is very compact and bushy with small leaves. Nodes are like 1/2" to 1" apart. Wasn't even able to train it to the net cause the nodes were too close.

The other is a very sativa like Pheno but I am having issues with it. Can't seem to find a Ph it likes. Shows Cal/Mag def no matter what I do. At 6.0-6.1 the ones in flower are doing a little better but they still show cal/mag def and weird variegated leaves. Flowering them anyway and will work with the clones to see if I can find a Ph they like. If the smoke is crap i'll just ditch the pheno.

If anyone has suggestions on helping this Pheno I'm all ears.

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try feeding it really light. i got a few plants that are similar. there's various ways i've found around it, but the easiest thing is just to cut back food for my situation. they can eat a lot of some, like they're real nitrogen hogs but too much p or K and calcium shows up. from the heat of being too close, to being watered not enough, pH or what have you, but overall just feeding em light was easiest. all of the other causes translated to overall toxicity causing a lockout. so i just cut back the food.

@unreg yeah that's def looking like too hot or too much of something or another. you won't get accurate readings testing the runoff of coco. you need to slurry test like was said above. instead of scooping out some dirt and soaking it or whatever, i just take my whole plant and sit it in a bucket of water for like 20 minutes. then i drain it and put it back in. i just flushed, and i did the slurry test in one. i take a sample of the water in the bucket for my ph test. it's a more accurate reading of what ph your plants roots are sitting in when the pot is saturated, i'm not sure it's an accurate measure of the ec though. coco always has a high ass EC for me even after 5 rinses. from what i know about coco and what i've read and been told, it should be pretty much stable and just change it's ph and ec to whatever nutrient you have it soaking in.

so if you want it to be ph 6 and EC 600 or whatever. after you rinse it well / flush or what have you, then whatever nutes you soak it in either by actually giving it a soak or by "only watering" with the same nutes from that point on, the ph and EC should stay at whatever you set it till you change it or it drifts. or salt buildup, forgot that one. i just make sure i hand water every once in a while with plain water or a weaker mix. which should in theory keep the nutes from building up. i do a little bit of runoff when i hand water. the drip fed plants not really. anyway that's how i've been treating it. seems to be working so far. with exception of a few finicky plants that think they're special... i think it is anyway lol. nothing to compare to really.
 

RockinRobot

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Thanks stihgnobevoli I'll try that. Unfortunately the ones in flower are in the same ebb and flow as the other White Widow Pheno so don't want to drop ppm on that. Who would have thought that 2 plants from the same parentage could have such different nutrient needs. I have 2 clones of that that I pulled out of my main veg area and into their own 5g DWC buckets. That way I can see if going higher on Ph will help and can also lower PPM and try that as well. 2 buckets lets me try 2 different setups.

The clones are looking a little better running at 6.2. New growth at least is looking better. 6.2 on the other White Widow and my bag seed both start to lock out. definitely can't grow this pheno with the others.

Here are pics from tonight.







 

stihgnobevoli

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woo been hot lately eh? oh wait that's prolly just me cuz my AC is fucking up. came in the house after being all day and it's hot and smelly. 86 on the thermostat. 102 inside the tent. for who knows how many hours. fared pretty well. the hand watered plants that i need to water a couple times a day weren't all dried out yet, even the yogurt cup was fine. managing to keep it actually a little cooler than my previous grow box. relatively. the space in the tent for the hot air to expand rather than sit around the plants as it would in the smaller cramped box. still hot as hell in the 6 inch radius around the bulb though. radiant heat. anyway hope to have all this resolved soon.

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thangthangs#12@22 showing some serious frost early on. i knew there was a reason i liked this one the most since day 1. got that strong lemony og smell.

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thangthang#1 this one stretched as much as the #12 above i tried to super crop but the stem is even more hollow than the other ones and it just snapped right off. oh well. shouldn't effect the structure too much. or it might cause it to bush out like my FD#3
has the same lemony og smell as the #12 but not as frosty and much lighter. in comparison we could say it was faint.

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thangthang#3 this one is the shortest bushiest of the three most indica like with the short wide tight leaves. but has very little to no frost despite what this blurred flash photo is indicating. and like 0 smell. so far. time will tell.

Who would have thought that 2 plants from the same parentage could have such different nutrient needs.
oh yeah it be like that. i have 3 identical S1's all in the same media same food as everything in the tent. one loves it, but is a little stuffed, but the weight she put on crazy. the next one is pretty hefty but halfway through the game started throwing up and revegging. the last one made it about 30-35 days flower when she had enough. she was looking bad almost from the beginning but by day 35 a nice little single leaf started to unfurl from the tip of the top bud, the already crinkled leaves started to burn, the whoe thing started to reveg.

yeah almost every plant i've grown needed to be "dialed" so i let em go. there's only one dial around here, you make wrap yourself around IT lol.
 
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