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Florida Growers Thread: Reloaded-ed

RockinRobot

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So i wonder if you would call my gg4 cuts MONSTER CROPPING? i took then at day 16 flower, I thought i had messed up. i didn't have a dedicated spot to set up my cloner till then.... I'll get some pictures.... I thought i had messed up waiting so long and yall are telling me ill have BUSH MONSTERS on my hands??? really??

If they had little popcorn buds on top then yes. It's those little buds that turn into multiple branches.
 

Wolfshadoe

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Double Trip...Right on!!!

Pretty much what I do..I bring in outside cuts bout sept..indoor thru winter,and right back out in spring!!..I'm so far behind this year not sure about spring harvest.Havent had time to catch up on forums and folk's grows..

Fla growers keepem green and sweet!! They don't listen? Just "OVERGROWEM":biggrin:..You FG's stay safe and smart..
Peace!!<ws>
 

Aspenou812

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Yea thanks RR they did have little fuzzy buds on them...... Gotta love it when a screw up turns into a win win.......
 

.357 mag

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So i wonder if you would call my gg4 cuts MONSTER CROPPING? i took then at day 16 flower, I thought i had messed up. i didn't have a dedicated spot to set up my cloner till then.... I'll get some pictures.... I thought i had messed up waiting so long and yall are telling me ill have BUSH MONSTERS on my hands??? really??

they wont be monster per say you'll get a bit more branching
taking cuts in flower really isnt monster cropping
they are gonna revg and look ugly and ut takes a bit to even get them started
most ya really did was set your self back a few weeks
 

Dawn Patrol

Well this is some bullshit right here.....
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Spent the other day

Spent the other day

workin on plants and taking pictures. Not gonna dump them all at once but heres the start.

ACE PCK x Kali China

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Destroyer x Highland Guerrero x Blueberry

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TT - grown from seed - gonna let this one go

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back_woods Sour Mist

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Copperfield

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Double Trip...Right on!!!

Pretty much what I do..I bring in outside cuts bout sept..indoor thru winter,and right back out in spring!!..I'm so far behind this year not sure about spring harvest.Havent had time to catch up on forums and folk's grows..

Fla growers keepem green and sweet!! They don't listen? Just "OVERGROWEM":biggrin:..You FG's stay safe and smart..
Peace!!<ws>

Hey wolf, I have 4 of the dj shorts bb x coma kush x bb that popped up and are well under way,.... I only have 2 of the other bb x coma that came up.... that is soo far.... I'm super stoked..., Ima start the grow diary after next week when the rest pop and these are a bit more stable... they look healthy tho!! I'm super stoked....
none of the myakka golds have come up... super bummed there.... it's only been 5 days tho.... their pretty old... I hope I get atleast one to pop...., I gave like ten to OGH, to see if he can pop them.... he's a more seasoned grower than myself... hope your doing well brother!!
Respect
 

Copperfield

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sorting through beans can b a mess..... I'm not the best at it.... recently I was gifted some older seed stock outta Gainesville/ Ocala area.... my buddy tells me there's def some old Gainesville green lurking in this backseed..... he's got excellent taste n pot n I trust my buddy's word, without a doubt... a good number of these will b going outside for my outdoor season, but the chosen ones will stay n the stable for sure....
 

dansbuds

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So i wonder if you would call my gg4 cuts MONSTER CROPPING? i took then at day 16 flower, I thought i had messed up. i didn't have a dedicated spot to set up my cloner till then.... I'll get some pictures.... I thought i had messed up waiting so long and yall are telling me ill have BUSH MONSTERS on my hands??? really??


yup , thats exactly what that means :biggrin:

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Monster Cropping


Monster Cropping or Flowering Clones is another method of growing that was brought to my attention by one of our members; JWP, who also was kind enough to provide the pictures for this part of the guide. This method involves taking clones of flowering plants and then forcing them to root and re-veg, which eventually leads to very bushy plants with a great number of branches and nodes. I named this technique Monster Cropping because that is what you will get, real monster plants, but also because this method was introduced to the scene by a grower named greenmonster714. He in turn credits a grower named Feral for discovering this technique.

Taking clones from flowering plants goes against all that has been said about cloning cannabis and might therefore seem a bit confusing at first but the science behind the technique is sound and the results speak for themselves.

You start by taking clones of a plant that is about 21 days into flowering. This seems to be the best time to do it but you can also take clones at a later stage with similar results. The lower branches make better clones as they have not yet become rigid and will also root faster and more easily than say the top cola. Move the new cutting into a glass of water and let it sit for a while in order to make sure that no air gets into the vascular system during handling, as this can be fatal to your new plant. You should make the cut so that it runs along the stem as this will increase the surface area for water and possibly nutrient uptake, depending on what method of cloning you use. Personally, I have found that using a small hydroponic setup or a propagation bubbler to be by far the best way to clone cannabis plants. I will not expand on the subject of cloning here, if you need more information on how to clone your plants, have a look at the official cloning thread by JJScorpio

In the picture below, you can see how the clone from a flowering plant been has placed in a propagation bubbler for rooting and re-vegging. This also means that you will have to put the clone back under a veg light schedule of 20/4 or even 24/0. Any less and the clone might just continue flowering. Clones do not need strong light so a small CFL will do. You can remove some of the buds and leaves at this stage in order to encourage the plant to revert back into its vegetative cycle but leave the topmost shoot alone.

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It will take several weeks for the clone to root, some never do, so it is best that you take a great number of clones at the same time in order to ensure that at least one makes it on to the next stage. It might be a good idea to place the clones inside a humidity dome, which can be bought at gardening stores or custom built for your specific needs. The high humidity inside the dome will make sure that the plants do not dry out and die. Ventilate the dome every day just to make sure that the plants don't get attacked by mold.

Keep in mind however that the most important thing when it comes to cloning is to provide the fresh cuttings with plenty of oxygen and that is why the propagation bubbler is so effective compared to other methods.

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The clones might be a sad sight at first but as soon as they root, they will also revert back into the vegetative stage and start growing again. Once the clones have rooted properly and started growing again, they will put out single unserrated leaves at first but the normal leaves are soon to follow. It might be a good idea to apply some training at this stage, tying down some of the tops will encourage even more branching. You can also provide some heat underneath the clones as this will speed up the rooting process considerably.



When the plant starts growing again, the incredible branching power of the flowering clone becomes apparent.

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As you can see, this plant has grown into a real monster, and all this without ever topping the plant. That's the beauty of this technique; you can forget all about topping and FIM'ing since the flowering clone will sprout all these new branches all by itself.

This plant is now perfectly suited for a SCROG or perhaps even a SOG grow. This one plant can easily fill up an entire Scrog net in no time. Several of these plants grown in SOG will definitely give you a grand harvest.

There are other benefits from using this technique; it also removes the need for keeping mother plants. When the newly re-vegged plant is flowered, it can also provide more clones for a perpetual harvest. Recycling at its best. This might be of interest to those who need to keep down their number of plants.

Needless to say, this method is highly effective thanks to the heavy branching that occurs after a flowering clone is re-vegged. With further training and some patience, you will get some real monster plants and thereby also a monster
harvest.
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RockinRobot

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I was gonna post the link to that thread yesterday. Didn't wanna start an argument with .357 . But as long as Dans already did it. Here's the link to the thread. Scroll down to see hard mode at it's finest. The "All bud method", LMFAO!!!

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=224569

Sane article I read several years ago and was the basis for my trying it myself. It was my largest single harvest as was only 2 plants. It was a longer veg time though till it filled the scrog.
 

dansbuds

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I took it right from the main thread ....https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=115377

I had forgotten about the one you posted doubletripple ...... fuckin stigh & his wonder plants always crack me up !!! :biggrin:

but like mentioned in that thread , monster cropped plants are great for moms & a few million cuts .... but can be a PIA to flower unless you trim off alot of that lower branching .

my chem91 moms are monster cropped clones & only took about a month to come out of reveg & produce a shitton of branches .
 

.357 mag

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I was gonna post the link to that thread yesterday. Didn't wanna start an argument with .357 . But as long as Dans already did it. Here's the link to the thread. Scroll down to see hard mode at it's finest. The "All bud method", LMFAO!!!

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=224569
no worries i ain gonna argue but she did say at 16 daze she took cuts
a bit short of 3 weeks and it would be strain dependent as well
heres a cut taken of blue dream xchem double d that was about 20 daze shes a monster plant in general but no diffrent than if i too the cut from a veg plant
the pic in the article looks closer to 4 weeks to me, i do agree taking cuts later in flower will make a bushier plant but dont think at just over 2 weeks will make that much of a diffrence
just my 2 cents no bad will intended
 

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dansbuds

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yeah it really matters how far into flower you take the cuts . ones taken during the stretch & before budset has started will take less time to root & not produce a bush monster as much as cuts with buds already started . hers taken at 16 days may not bush out like that pic to bad .
 

.357 mag

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another thought,its kinda like mainlining the extra time dosnt make much sense
dan said took a month to come outta reveg then ya gotta veg for another month if not more
agreed?
so i dont veg much more than 30 daze i dont top but do a lot of lst
so imma cash cropper and time is money so i think its kinda pointless in my case
heres the same bd xcdd with just lst and 30 day veg under 1k
 

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dansbuds

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yup , thats why i said they're good for moms . tons of branching for cuts & it really doesn't matter if a mom takes awhile to grow out .
 

.357 mag

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i could see that
and eeryone has diffrent methods

if ya really wanna monster plant though
take a plant like this and throw it in 12/12 for 2 weeks
then back into veg for 2 weeks ,then back to 12/12 its a tricky technique time wise but iffa ya catch it right ya wont have a reveg and the plant will triple in size
saves ya a month
 

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.357 mag

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on another note i actually found this thread looking for info on fl og cut
is it a cut from dna seed
or verdantgreens bubba s1 ?
 

.357 mag

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seems i cant edit but after looking at a couple notes it would be 7-10 daze right before full flowerset is when ya would put back in veg to miss the reveg but again is strain dependent
and those numbers come frome the 2 strains ive done it with
4sd ,and pineapple princess
 

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