FLIR use in Minnesota

[Retardo Motabon]

Here's an article from the startribune about the use of FLIR in the metro area to not only find people, but to take video of homes where marijuana is growing to assist in getting warrants for those places.
http://www.startribune.com/local/south/86067307.html

 

[Jalisco Kid]

I do not think they they can get a warrant because of that as it evades your privacy you expect behind closed doors. They might use that evidence to babysit you until they can get a real reason to come in your home though.

 

[jarff]

In Canada the FLIR is legal for the cops and it is grounds for a search warrant.It is how most grow houses are busted in my area of Canada. bummer...
jarff

 

[tokinsmokin]

Yeah thats a way to find the growers and then try to implicate them through other means such as looking in their trash. Its pretty easy for a cop to say oh this place smells like Cannabis, because there is no device that ensures whether or not that officer really did smell Cannabis.

FLIR use by LEO has been inevitable.

 

[lysol]

They only mention of drugs is that "sometimes cops will get a warrant to FLIR a suspected grow".

Don't post inaccurate news.

Though most of the missions are to find suspects or lost people, including plenty of hunters, 15 to 20 missions a year involve narcotics officers who get search warrants to fly above a building where they suspect a marijuana farm is operating.

It was a supreme court ruling that said they need a warrant. Why are you trying to rile up people with scare tactics?

 

[Retardo Motabon]

My intention was not to rile anyone up. The intention was to post news to alert folks that FLIR is in fact used in Minnesota. I believe you didnt read the entire article. Its three pages.
I'm not using scare tactics. We know the legality of FLIR, but we also know that if the police find something while using it they arent going to turn the other cheek...they will more likely begin an investigation.
"Over the years, Commander John Grant of the Dakota County Sheriff's Office has come to know the investigative value of relying on FLIR. He's seen firsthand how thermal imagers make roofs and foundations around indoor pot farms glow white, helping investigators to build cases.
"It's a great tool, I'll tell you that," he said."

 

[smokefrogg]

double walls, massive insulation between the 2 walls, do all doors and entry ways like that as well as the roof and floor, like building a room within a room and filling the in between space with lots of insulation

wouldn't something like that do the trick?

 

[hazydays]

Maybe light exhaust chillers.

 

[christen23]

Interesting.. Good info... Im sure in MN many people go down by them flying over neighborhoods looking for glowing houses and then they give the info to the correct cities police... Some around here are dead giveaways tho.. lol peace
~POE~

 

[Kalicokitty]

Quote from the article

"Though most of the missions are to find suspects or lost people, including plenty of hunters, 15 to 20 missions a year involve narcotics officers who get search warrants to fly above a building where they suspect a marijuana farm is operating. The grow lights, humidity and heat make the roofs and foundations glow white.

The pilots then give officers the video evidence that helps them get warrants to conduct ground raids."

15 or so a year, and even then they have to get warrents for it first.
Comes down to someone blabbing about things as usual and getting knarced off to the cops by someone they told.
Scary stuff, but nothing to lose sleep over at this point IMO

 

[bs0]

L2Vent folks. The era of FLIR is here and nobody should be surprised any longer.

 

[BirdManFlyHigh]

Yeah thats a way to find the growers and then try to implicate them through other means such as looking in their trash. Its pretty easy for a cop to say oh this place smells like Cannabis, because there is no device that ensures whether or not that officer really did smell Cannabis.

FLIR use by LEO has been inevitable.

Sadly I dont dought a word you say.

 

[Stoner4Life]

good quote Kalico, was going to do that myself; yes first they get that warrant to look from above, then that video is supplied to leo to attain the actual search warrant for the building, my problem with that is this:

unless the dwelling is glowing 'white hot' & very obviously a grow op the FLIR evidence given to leo is open to interpretation. They may swear to a judge that YES it is a grow & yet they're getting they're just getting hopes up & busting someone with thin blood.......

 

[Pistil_Party09]

there are plenty of objects in the home that could look like a grow op...plenty of household appliances will give off large amounts of heat, i think if you properly cool and ventilate your grow you should never have any issues....also avoid growing in attics....id say basements are prime for avoiding flir detection.

 

[Miss Blunted]

I had a chopper fly over my house last night....in a straight beeline from SW exactly across my roof. It was low, way too low for my comfort and it was after dark. I read someone mention a red light underneath a chopper they were worried about in another thread......this chopper had red lights in front (normal) and then this bigger, round red light under it....could be nothing, probably is....but one of those strange things that make you think. I hate choppers, they freak me out.....always see them around looking for outdoors' in the summer and I just hate it.

 

[Kalicokitty]

Here's a funny sidenote chopper story

I wasn't growing at the time, but I was up to other stuff.......anyway.
2am, I'm sleeping in the front bedroom(wife is snoring like a buzzsaw in the back one)
And I wake up to the sound of WHUP WHUP WHUP WHUP, unmistakable loud ass chopper noise, so I look out the window and this thing is flying about 50 feet above my row of townhouses coming straight for mine.
When it gets to mine it stops, I see the big ass POLICE written on the bottom of it, and it throws on its spotlight and starts shining it on my townhouse, I think, fuck, I'm getting raided, so I run into the master bedroom where my wife is sitting up in bed looking all bewildered, I tell her to relax, stay in bed, and put your hands up, she's half asleep still and clueless, I grabbed some cash that wasn't hiddin good, threw it down a floor vent, and ran back to the front bedroom to look out the window.
I can hear that the coptor is still right above my house, and see the spotlight, so I look out the wiondow expecting to see cops running across my yard with their guns out, but there's nothing, so I'm thinking, wow, they really fucked up the timing on this raid, the coptor got here way too early.
Couple more minutes go by and nothing, so I start to think maybe I have the wrong idea, now the coptor moves off into a field still shining its light.
Turns out someone had been stealing stuff from the homedepot outdoor lot by me and fled on foot and they thought they were hiding in my yard, damn, scared like 3 years off of me.
So afterwards the wife is asking why I was acting all paranoid, I said what the hell did you think it was if not a raid?
She thought Iraq was invading us, LMAO!

 

[Bumba Claat]

Sounds scary miss blunted, I have worked with choppers and FLIR, they like to fly these flights at night because during the day the sun heats up a lot of stuff around it an and it can be hard to see the hot spots with all the sun radiant heat warming things up.

 

[lysol]

My intention was not to rile anyone up. The intention was to post news to alert folks that FLIR is in fact used in Minnesota. I believe you didnt read the entire article. Its three pages.

Ok fair enough. I did read the entire article. The quote I pasted from page 3 is the only time it mentioned marijuana and it said they ALREADY HAD WARRANTS!

People people people, stop loosing sleep over a technology that can't even detect 90% of your grows. FLIR does not see thru things anyways! The only reason you are at risk to FLIR is if you are venting lots of heat when it is cold out. Then they might pick you up on a random street side drive by.

There is no reason to be afraid of FLIR. If you want to be scared of something be afraid of yourself snitching on yourself, or the post man smelling something, or a neighbor asking why your AC runs non stop.

This article is not news, sorry to say.

 

[Miss Blunted]

still freaky

 

[MikeRoOrganix]

I didn't know it would make your foundation glow. Concerns me.