First time grower with SILS on micro grow

[Greenheart]

Don't do nothing for some days with your older plants and see if they recover...probably is only overwatering.

And don't change nothing to your young plants. They are shining.

Reiko is right...we need some LITFA

I'm with this guy. I've played with halogen a lot for the uv/fr/ir qualities. I doubt it was the problem as long as heat wasn't an issue.

I can attest to the leaf burn LEDs are capable of! That is some intense focused light right there. Kind of like cooking ants with a lens.

what ever you do give them some time to recover first.

 

[Sampas92]

Man....i now how hard is take a spoon of LITFA. Trust me. Lol

Your plants seems happy today.

Yeah the younger one is more perkier, the other not so much..maybe tomorrow will be a better day for them..

 

[Sampas92]

I'm with this guy. I've played with halogen a lot for the uv/fr/ir qualities. I doubt it was the problem as long as heat wasn't an issue.

I can attest to the leaf burn LEDs are capable of! That is some intense focused light right there. Kind of like cooking ants with a lens.

what ever you do give them some time to recover first.

I added the halogen for 2 reasons, first to heat up the leafs a bit since i cant get past 23/24c where they are and to see if they would stretch a bit or not..
I didnt notice any harm per se adding the hallogen, the temps were between 24~25c with it but at the same time i added the halogen i thinked to myself "if they are hotter they will transpirate more and drink more" and gave them more, maybe thats was it..

Always learning
Thanks green heart

 

[PCBuds]

Well i did it kkkkk
I know i shouldnt make big changes in them but then again, if i fail, i learned something, poor things, they have been suffering for a long time in my hands

And stupid and stubborn as i am, as they recover im going to switch the lights again incrementaly to see how they react.

Keep in mind, that all you may be learning is how the plants react to constant changes.

Your original light setup may have been optimal but it was changed too soon to find out, especially if your only problem was overwatering.

If your plants recover nicely now, you may be mislead into believing it is the latest change in the lighting that is responsible.



I've done a lot of messing around with my plants and I still have a hard time just leaving them be, but I've learned that they can take a lot of abuse and still turn out fine especially when they are older.
They may take longer to finish but you are still going to end up with a nice yeild.

I remember when you were willing to settle for a gram from your plants.
You are well on your way towards way more than that.

 

[Sampas92]

Day 27

Day 27

So first day with the 13w added, both of the girls seems to like it

Day 27 Auto Blue Amnesia 32cm from lights 17k lux at cannopy

I think all the big growth that she had in this days is stretching to start flowering and i say this because of this plus the fact that she growed 5cm in height in 37h +/- ,22cm now for 6.5l of soil and 17cm of soil height

What you guys think?

Overall i think she is healthy, didnt give her any nute until now besides calmag but even that was just a bit, just some foliars with aloe, a tiny ammount of calmag and now a tiny pinch of epsom, seems the mixture of both soils is working for now, but i need to keep a look at her to see if she starts to get low on anything.

Today is going to be watering day for her, pinch of epsom, tiny bit if calmag and im still indecise if i should add a little bit of bloom nutes to see if she responds well and to get her used to them for the next two weeks, water until some drops at run off

day time 24~26C RH 50/55, night time 20~23c rh 50/55

 

[Sampas92]

Mrs Skunk

Mrs Skunk

My skunk dont seem to bother much about the lights

Still any signs of sexing

Both

Today will be watering day for her too, the same mixture is sister will get.
Both show white roots in the side holes pf the pot, not many, and none in the bottom

 

[Sampas92]

Olders

Olders

So the girls seem to be better as the hours go by, the younger one on the left is much more perkier that in the last days, the older is better but not so much as her sister, but its getting there..

The older looks like is trying but its tired kkkk

The left one stretched all of the branches closer to the light which is normal since is getting less that she was getting.
Since i intend to switch the bulbs again i will strap some higher branches down.

From the first node and is the highest top

Also, when the stretch phase passes isnt supose for them to not grow much more in height? I know is much strain dependent and lights levels but in average..

I think im going to let them recover the rest of this day and maybe tomorrow too. Tomorrow at lights out i will add one of the 13w bulb to see how they react, then allong the day i will add the others one by one and see how they react each time until i get the old configuration back

Some days ago i toped something acvidentaly and i didnt know where it was, i found it, recovered pretty well

I wonder, what would had happen if i did topped her more, its the only branch like this and it has a scar in a part of the stem

 

[Sampas92]

Keep in mind, that all you may be learning is how the plants react to constant changes.

Your original light setup may have been optimal but it was changed too soon to find out, especially if your only problem was overwatering.

If your plants recover nicely now, you may be mislead into believing it is the latest change in the lighting that is responsible.



I've done a lot of messing around with my plants and I still have a hard time just leaving them be, but I've learned that they can take a lot of abuse and still turn out fine especially when they are older.
They may take longer to finish but you are still going to end up with a nice yeild.

I remember when you were willing to settle for a gram from your plants.
You are well on your way towards way more than that.

Hi buds good to see you here.
Thanks for the kind words friend, still i hope to get at least one gram of them kkkkk

Yeah i keep that in mind, thats why i want to go back to the old light configuration fast but slowly, i just did this to give them kind of a day off, like when we are kinda feeling sick and just one day or two without going to work and everything gets better, kind of that. When i add the 13w again to see if i find a sweet spot.

 

[PCBuds]

I think you should easily get 3/4 - 1 grams per Watt.

Grow them out as long as you can stand.

I've grown my tormented 7 week Autoflowers for 16 weeks.

I don't believe in "too ripe" anymore.

 

[Sampas92]

I think you should easily get 3/4 - 1 grams per Watt.

Grow them out as long as you can stand.

I've grown my tormented 7 week Autoflowers for 16 weeks.

I don't believe in "too ripe" anymore.

I can stand as long as they want me to

Funny, some weeks ago i almost had no hopes for them, and now here they are, cripled, but they are here

 

[PCBuds]

I don't think that they are cripled.

You're just hardening them off really good at the expense of time.

I'm going to bet at least a gram/watt.

 

[PCBuds]

Good news !!
My LIFTA appears to be working!!

After a few drinks spiked with the stuff, I have managed to not brutalize my plants !!


Instead, I decided to focus my bad judgments on line.











Twenty bucks, what the hell...

It reads up to 200,000 lux and has to be better than my phone app that maxes out at 18,000 lux.




One thing that I remember from the SIL thread is that lux meters generally "see" the green spectrum of light to make their measurements.
Office buildings were changed from fluorescent to LED lighting and the inspectors were reading equal light from the LEDs but office workers were saying "no it's not, I can't see shit!"

They needed to use full spectrum light meters and calibrate them to human vision to get a more accurate measurement of light intensity.

I don't know what kind of spectrum a phones camera sees, but I'm guessing that the new light meters are calibrated to measure LED light, but that's still probably based on human vision.

 

[Sampas92]

Good news !!
My LIFTA appears to be working!!

After a few drinks spiked with the stuff, I have managed to not brutalize my plants !!


Instead, I decided to focus my bad judgments on line.






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Twenty bucks, what the hell...

It reads up to 200,000 lux and has to be better than my phone app that maxes out at 18,000 lux.




One thing that I remember from the SIL thread is that lux meters generally "see" the green spectrum of light to make their measurements.
Office buildings were changed from fluorescent to LED lighting and the inspectors were reading equal light from the LEDs but office workers were saying "no it's not, I can't see shit!"

They needed to use full spectrum light meters and calibrate them to human vision to get a more accurate measurement of light intensity.

I don't know what kind of spectrum a phones camera sees, but I'm guessing that the new light meters are calibrated to measure LED light, but that's still probably based on human vision.

Buds the phone dont capture the light from the camera is from the light sensor, my light sensor is in the middle of the screen of my phone, if i cover the camera with will keep reading the lux

Buy it is always handy

 

[Sampas92]

Redirecting

Redirecting

So guys i need your opinion on something
I spent the last 45 minutes doing this

The branches of the older one are filled with this

 

[Sampas92]

This is what terpene wrote on the sils thread

Now, they both are at +/- 25/20cm from the lights, what you guys think, switch all the bulbs again at lights out for a new day tomorrow with them?
Maybe arranging the lights a bit better for not so much concentrate light
I know all about the changes and how it affects them
I feel to switch everything again but im kinda afraid for that new growth on the bushier girl, maybe switch and read the output to see what i get?
Whats your opinions on this guys?

 

[Sampas92]

The nug

The nug

 

[PCBuds]

I figure if you put the brighter bulbs in the four corners and the dimmer ones in the middle, it will give the light a more even spread.

I say give them more and more light gradually now.
They have their leaves all established now for pulling in sunshine.
Train them to pull in as much as they can stand.
More light equals more resin and frost.

You are all set up to monitor the other parameters.
Make sure they can keep up.
It's time to Pump It Up! Lol



Keep in mind that I have been drinking and although I'm using LIFTA, I don't know if my own LIFTA will work with your plants?

You are going to do what you do so if I was you, that's what I'd do, but I'm drunk too. Lol

 

[Caio]

Lool you have lost your LITFA bottle i see..
I'm tipsy and this extremely sadistic lst make me happy!

:friends:

 

[Sampas92]

I figure if you put the brighter bulbs in the four corners and the dimmer ones in the middle, it will give the light a more even spread.

I say give them more and more light gradually now.
They have their leaves all established now for pulling in sunshine.
Train them to pull in as much as they can stand.
More light equals more resin and frost.

You are all set up to monitor the other parameters.
Make sure they can keep up.
It's time to Pump It Up! Lol



Keep in mind that I have been drinking and although I'm using LIFTA, I don't know if my own LIFTA will work with your plants?

You are going to do what you do so if I was you, that's what I'd do, but I'm drunk too. Lol

Kkkkk buds i liked that response

I feel to switch the lights again but diminish the ammount of hours..maybe ill do it tonight

 

[Sampas92]

Lool you have lost your LITFA bottle i see..
I'm tipsy and this extremely sadistic lst make me happy!

:friends:

Im glad i made you happy caio