Ok I've emptied and cleaned the tank, and now have fresh ph'd water running through her, will run pump for probably a day to flush it through properly then tommorow start her again on her normal feeding schedual untill I notice some kind of difference. Will post's new picks wether it goes up or down.
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Ok here we are, heap of new growth, new shoots coming out everywhere and taking off quickly, most of the leaves are looking good now, some of the top leaves are looking wilted though (have pics) and a few have the tips still a brown/yellow color.
Any ideas?
This is her now:
This is the wilted leaves:
And the following two are the leaves with brown tips:
Any ideas?
This is her now:
This is the wilted leaves:
And the following two are the leaves with brown tips:
Oh wow that looks much better than your first pic! Way to go!
That burnt tip is called......wait for it...."tip burn"! and that is what you want to see to tell you that your nutes are at optimum dose. I would try to run nute strength at just below this strength, just so some of the bottom leaves have the tip burn. Any stronger and you will start seeing spots, splotches and crispy burns, from fert burn. Much weaker and you will probably see N def, lower leaves yellowing, then mid leaves as the plant moves N from lower leaves up to fuel new tip growth.
Start the feeding sched at half strength and watch the plant for results. Until it grows and builds up some roots, it won't take full strength nutes. You have to find the right dosage for you. When these companies recommend dosages, they are probably growing under more optimum conditions than you are, stronger lighting, etc. A plant under 400 MH will eat and drink more than the same plant under CFL. Light is the energy that drives the plant engine......
Keep the ph adjusted, easy on the nutes (plants will do much better with nutes on the light side, rather than too much). I could grow a decent plant just in some good soil, and it would be fine, but not optimum. If you try to force feed it, you will hurt it.
Post some updates regularly here so we can make sure all is well. Right now it looks like things are on the road to recovery! Congrats!
That will be a nice bush when harvest time comes.....
That burnt tip is called......wait for it...."tip burn"! and that is what you want to see to tell you that your nutes are at optimum dose. I would try to run nute strength at just below this strength, just so some of the bottom leaves have the tip burn. Any stronger and you will start seeing spots, splotches and crispy burns, from fert burn. Much weaker and you will probably see N def, lower leaves yellowing, then mid leaves as the plant moves N from lower leaves up to fuel new tip growth.
Start the feeding sched at half strength and watch the plant for results. Until it grows and builds up some roots, it won't take full strength nutes. You have to find the right dosage for you. When these companies recommend dosages, they are probably growing under more optimum conditions than you are, stronger lighting, etc. A plant under 400 MH will eat and drink more than the same plant under CFL. Light is the energy that drives the plant engine......
Keep the ph adjusted, easy on the nutes (plants will do much better with nutes on the light side, rather than too much). I could grow a decent plant just in some good soil, and it would be fine, but not optimum. If you try to force feed it, you will hurt it.
Post some updates regularly here so we can make sure all is well. Right now it looks like things are on the road to recovery! Congrats!
That will be a nice bush when harvest time comes.....
Boondocks
Member
sup jusaguy def sounds like too much nutes but they are looking better if i was you i would dump the rez refill with pf balanced water ..hell even rain water and start @ 400-500 ppm i bet they will perk right up then slowly increse PPM thru the next few weeks good luck and be safe.
I have the light running through the night when its cheaper (also helps keep warm during the night) But during light hours she looks fairly happy but during down hours it doesn't look so happy and then just perks up again at night, also a few of the highest leaves (sunleafs?) are getting smaller and wilting, not looking healthy at all, can get pics if required but not sure if they'd be handy in this situation.
Sorry for being either constantly worried about nothing or full of problems
Thanks in advance, Justaguy
Sorry for being either constantly worried about nothing or full of problems
Thanks in advance, Justaguy
KillerWeed
Member
Justaguy,
be careful when you check in during "night time" for your plants, you don't want to get into the habit of breaking their dark period during veg time because you will be more likely to make the mistake of doing the same during flowering. If your observations were taken at the very beginning or end of the dark period I apologise for jumping to conclusions.
During dark periods, you plant is concentrating on root development and will look like she is relaxing. Time lapse photos of cannabis will show this surging motion.
As for the wilting, please post pics.
KillerWeed
be careful when you check in during "night time" for your plants, you don't want to get into the habit of breaking their dark period during veg time because you will be more likely to make the mistake of doing the same during flowering. If your observations were taken at the very beginning or end of the dark period I apologise for jumping to conclusions.
During dark periods, you plant is concentrating on root development and will look like she is relaxing. Time lapse photos of cannabis will show this surging motion.
As for the wilting, please post pics.
KillerWeed
Blackvelvet
Member
Way too strong ferts! You should use about 1/6 this much. .83 ml per liter. This would give you 100-200 ppm nitrogen. Does both bottles contain 12.2% nitrogen?Justaguy said:
50/50 mix of peat/perlite is the Cornell university peatlite mix recipe B. Usually 2 teaspoons per gallon (.15 cubic feet) dolomite lime is added to the mix. Since your ferts are for hydro and contain quite a bit of calcium and magnesium, you might not be able to add the lime. Nothing wrong with just perlite. Wash the perlite several times with just plain water to leach out fluoride. Ph will be close to 7 at the start so you should adjust the ph of your fert water down close to 6. Just perlite will require watering quite often...
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