final flush questions

[Creeptic]

ok i have about 3 weeks left til harvest and have a couple of questions regarding the final flush

ive read that you flush 2 weeks before harvest with 3 times the size of your container (a 2 gallon pot gets 6 gallons of water)

question is this... do you flush the plants that one time and not water again for the remainder of the plants life?

or do you flush them... then continue to water the plant as per normal every couple of days?

maybe its trivial... but just wondering what peoples opinions are... i dont want to mess up my first grow now that im seeing the light at the end of the tunnel

ps. its a soil grow with chem ferts

 

[medicaluser420]

Wait till your plant is ready to be cut down dont flush it prior to it being ready. Once you think it is ripe and mature give it the initial flush like you said then just give it water for another week or so even if it is done. that is how i do it but everone has different methods.

 

[Guest]

ok i have about 3 weeks left til harvest and have a couple of questions regarding the final flush

ive read that you flush 2 weeks before harvest with 3 times the size of your container (a 2 gallon pot gets 6 gallons of water)

question is this... do you flush the plants that one time and not water again for the remainder of the plants life?

or do you flush them... then continue to water the plant as per normal every couple of days?

maybe its trivial... but just wondering what peoples opinions are... i dont want to mess up my first grow now that im seeing the light at the end of the tunnel

ps. its a soil grow with chem ferts

With 3 weeks to go, dont feed nutes any more. Feed only plain water. Flush once in 3rd week to go and keep watering every 3-4 days ( as needed) . with 2 weeks to go flush again once or twice that week. Lat week give them a little water then stop!!!! Let soil dry out, all the way. like the desert. Plant will eat whatever crap is left in it. place it in dark room for 3 days. Chop and enjoy














Nevermind

 

[Guest]

Why would you place it in the dark room for three whole days? It never does this in mother nature...

 

[james lee]

soil grow organic nutes

soil grow organic nutes

I hope it's cool to jump on ur thread I am at the same point in flowering. I have flushed my plants with straight ro h20. I had these planted in ff ocean forest, ff soil with bat guana, ff warrior mix, perlite, & ff peace of mind. I have been feeding them with all organic nutes. (tiger bloom, big bloom, grow big, cha ching, cal-mag, liquid karma & hygrozyme) I have flushed once yesterday setting each pot ontop of a bucket with drain holes in a tub, I then run plain ro water with ph @ 6.5 - 4 gal of water thru each plant. My runoff read 1900 ppms. Are these nutes and additives all organic or are some of these chemicals? If so, can someone who is experienced with ff products give some feedback as to how many flush cycles I should do before putting it on the chopping block? Thanks for your expertise. This is my lst grow in soil and my 2nd mj grow.

 

[BluEBLaZeS]

2 days in the dark is sufficient. the plant is taking in the last amounts of nutes from the soil, as you will be flushing there wont be any, and it'll be easier to harvest if you let your soil dry out say 5 days before chop, so that buds dry faster as there is no more water to absorb by your plant and the rest hopefully has started evaporating if your humidity is low... low humidity. Alex nevermind covered it well!

 

[LavenderCowboy]

When and how you flush depends on what nutrients you are using....Can you give us your fert program????LC

 

[Guest]

Why would you place it in the dark room for three whole days? It never does this in mother nature...

Yeah, mother nature also doens tkill all males in the area and let only females grow, nor does mother nature provide the nutes and feeding schedules that we can,nor in mother nature is the sun air cooled and 6 inches away from tops of plants to increase yield. So while mother nature is helpful, man can do things to make her work a little bit better. Give it i shot.











Nevermind

 

[Creeptic]

thanks for all the advice guys... im gonna give neverminds technique a try

as far as what ferts im using... flora nova grow & flora nova bloom

im going to give them one more feeding tomorrow and then next watering ill flush and use only water from then on... let em dry up the last week... two days of darkness might not be able to happen... i have another plant i just put in my flowering room... so i might have to find a 2 day temporary dark home for them if i do the darkness thing

i have a little more then 3 weeks to decide... so i guess we'll see

 

[aeric]

To get 'the darkness' thing with multiple plants and no other space to put them in...cut them right before lights on. The original thinking on the darkness thing was that plants tested for thc at various times of the day had lower thc levels mid-day and higher thc after sundown...but 3 days of darkness would be even better as others have said...it also helps to bring out more color (i.e. purple) if that plant has a tendency to do so, as does flushing.

Generally, plain water added @ 2x the volume of the container is considered a flush, but this can be done all at once, or gradually, there are many many ways to flush.

 

[Guest]

i was under the impresstion that you didnt need to flush organic grows?

 

[FunkBomb]

If you flush once a week like many hydro peeps do you dont have to flush at the end - this can be applied to organics too. Stop sweating the small shit and keep it simple. The plant has survived billions of years outdoors in much worse conditions. It can handle almost any knuckleball you throw at it. Good luck

Funk

 

[mikeh]

Flushing on soil isn't possible (like on a hydro setup!)

You just need to give them clear water (pH 6.1) for the last 2 weeks, and the nutes are as good as 'gone'.

Good luck.

 

[Texassativa]

Why would you place it in the dark room for three whole days? It never does this in mother nature...

Not too many people use Mother nature as a guildline. BRAVO!!!! K+, or green dot love..Spring rain dosen't have a "dark cycle" for three freakin' days. She grew the stuff before us, she just might know something. Outdoor plants are known for there potent bud. Nothing beats mother nature. PERIOD


Water cure the bud, problem with fert taste is gone......

 

[Suby]

Just switch to plain water for the last 10days or so, flushing with water before that will just deprive them right away of nutrients whereas watering every 2-3 days for the last 10 days will flush them out slowly, just water each time untill you get a healthy amount of runoff.

I don't like my plants to be bone dry when I harvest, LC pointed out to me a while ago that the longer it takes to dry the buds out the better the cure, a dried out plant will not be able to do this.
Leaving plants in the dark does not do anything, trichomes are either there or they are not, they did not appear overnight on your plants, it tooks weeks of care to get them to develop, how is darkness gonna make them magically ripen or appear.
Mother nature has been doing her thing for millions of years, she's the wisest teacher we have.

S

 

[LEGI0N]

Yeah, mother nature also doens tkill all males in the area and let only females grow, nor does mother nature provide the nutes and feeding schedules that we can,nor in mother nature is the sun air cooled and 6 inches away from tops of plants to increase yield. So while mother nature is helpful, man can do things to make her work a little bit better. Give it i shot.
Nevermind

LOL yeah... I like the air cooled sun 6 inch's away. BTW in a way the sun is air cooled.. and it doesn't need to be 6" away either. 93 million miles seems to work just fine for most plants. As for watering and feeding yes mother natures been doing that for a few year too.

If 2 or 3 days in the dark is good for your plant I'd assume that 2 or 3 days of sun light would be better.. I find that plants grow better with light. After you cut the plant down it's going to get a week of dark and I don't think the plant stops everything the moment it's cut down.

 

[Notcoolzeuss]

I hope it's cool to jump on ur thread I am at the same point in flowering. I have flushed my plants with straight ro h20. I had these planted in ff ocean forest, ff soil with bat guana, ff warrior mix, perlite, & ff peace of mind. I have been feeding them with all organic nutes. (tiger bloom, big bloom, grow big, cha ching, cal-mag, liquid karma & hygrozyme) I have flushed once yesterday setting each pot ontop of a bucket with drain holes in a tub, I then run plain ro water with ph @ 6.5 - 4 gal of water thru each plant. My runoff read 1900 ppms. Are these nutes and additives all organic or are some of these chemicals? If so, can someone who is experienced with ff products give some feedback as to how many flush cycles I should do before putting it on the chopping block? Thanks for your expertise. This is my lst grow in soil and my 2nd mj grow.

I hope I don't start a huge debate here, but I wanted to answer your question for you, since no one has addressed it yet. The reason that your plants are not flushing as easily as you thought is that your nutes are NOT organic. There are very few lines of nutes out there that are 100% organic. A general definition of organic is anything that was part of, or derived from, living organisms.

I use almost the exact same nutes as you. The FF big three, Growbig, Bigbloom, and TigerBloom, are organic based, but they are not truly organic. They use some organic ingredients such as Bat Guano, seaweed, kelp, and earthworm castings, but if you look at the ingredients on the bottle, you will see a lot of chemicals. They are definitely closer to organic than most nutes, but not 100%. The Liquid Karma and Cal-Mag I use too. I'm not sure if they're organic, but I'm almost positive they're not. They are micronutes, however, and should not be of any concern when flushing. I've never used Hygrozyme, so I know nothing about it. I did see you mention Cha-Ching, though. I have the FF booster tri-pack as well. (Open Sesame, Beastie Bloomz, and Cha-Ching) They are FF products, but they are nowhere near organic. I've never seen any organic substance with NPK numbers like that!!!

All that being said, though, don't fret. The nutes you are using have some chemicals in them, but not a ton. The usual method of flushing that others in this thread have discussed should be more than sufficient to get all those chemicals out of your plants, and soil. 1 or 2 flushes in last few weeks before chop would do it, I think. Just stop using ferts and additives in the last few weeks.

Good Luck!!!

 

[Texassativa]

No "X files grower" here. Good post Zuess!

 

[Suby]

You'll get no debate from me, you took the words out of my mouth....if I had been attentive enough to read the post...damn bubblehash.
Alot of people are mistaking some hydro/organic (notice the slash...i refers to the product conatining both types of nutes like PBPro and calmag and...) products as 100% organic, there isn't anything wrong with it but this is partly why alot of self proclaimed "organic growers" swear by flushing, it's a clusterfuck.

 

[Guest]

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