Hey Rh try using a cool mist humidifier or two in veg to try and raise humidity levels,vegging pants seem to love it and spidermites hate it.You can use them the first 30 days of 12/12 or so but I wouldn't after flowers are forming good.They are very cheap not like a de-humidifier.I set mine up a couple feet from the grow and an oscillating fan a couple feet from the humidifier
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Hey Vanilla, welcome. I remember you popped in to my stadium thread. This thread is cool no big egos or trolls. Their have been a lot of trolls around other threads lately.
Hey pop rocks, nice short week. Gotta love time away from the grind.
Hey Rode, I have no experience with outdoor. It's been banned in my county, and I am not that secluded to keep it under wraps. As far a calmag, I assume you are referring to botanicares cal mag plus.I don't like the 2 to 1 cal to mag ratio, not to mention the extra nitrogen.I think general hydroponics calmagic 1 to 1 ratio is better. Epsom salts are an easy cheap source of mag. I have never used it because my tap water has a decent amount of cal and mag. I would think you should be ok with the low humidity. I would avoid misting during daylight hours, water on the leaves burns. I would think adding fans or keeping the ends of the tunnel open for air flow. Only real concern is how are you going to transplant out of the 30 gallon bins? That's a heavey load to move. The 400s should produce some serious weight. And 75 of them you will be swimming in buds.sounds like you got your soil down pretty well.I think you will be ok with the low humidity I have seen great bud grown here without a good soil like you have. No humidity =no mold. I hope you have a good trim crew lined up, that's the biggest bottleneck in the process. My helper hit me up to help him trim a couple weeks ago. He text me, "I will pay 20$an hour to help trim" my wife got my phone because I was in hash powered nap. She wakes me up and tells me go get that money. I felt bad because he helps me, but I do keep him in rosin, and bud to sell.
I put my order in for a mendobreath clone my partner has, also getting jet fuel a forum x sfv I think. I can't wait, for next round the mendobreath is super tasty and powerful, yeilds monster coals. Adding an automated water system, going for 8 pounds this next round. I will fire up the thread again when I get started.
Fiddynuts, Cucumber salad sounds nice and refreshing. I lost my cucumber plants to heat , i used jiffy pellets to start my seeds and lost all but 2 pepper plants. I lost 36 cannabis seeds in jiffy pellets, I should have known better
Hey pop rocks, nice short week. Gotta love time away from the grind.
Hey Rode, I have no experience with outdoor. It's been banned in my county, and I am not that secluded to keep it under wraps. As far a calmag, I assume you are referring to botanicares cal mag plus.I don't like the 2 to 1 cal to mag ratio, not to mention the extra nitrogen.I think general hydroponics calmagic 1 to 1 ratio is better. Epsom salts are an easy cheap source of mag. I have never used it because my tap water has a decent amount of cal and mag. I would think you should be ok with the low humidity. I would avoid misting during daylight hours, water on the leaves burns. I would think adding fans or keeping the ends of the tunnel open for air flow. Only real concern is how are you going to transplant out of the 30 gallon bins? That's a heavey load to move. The 400s should produce some serious weight. And 75 of them you will be swimming in buds.sounds like you got your soil down pretty well.I think you will be ok with the low humidity I have seen great bud grown here without a good soil like you have. No humidity =no mold. I hope you have a good trim crew lined up, that's the biggest bottleneck in the process. My helper hit me up to help him trim a couple weeks ago. He text me, "I will pay 20$an hour to help trim" my wife got my phone because I was in hash powered nap. She wakes me up and tells me go get that money. I felt bad because he helps me, but I do keep him in rosin, and bud to sell.
I put my order in for a mendobreath clone my partner has, also getting jet fuel a forum x sfv I think. I can't wait, for next round the mendobreath is super tasty and powerful, yeilds monster coals. Adding an automated water system, going for 8 pounds this next round. I will fire up the thread again when I get started.
Fiddynuts, Cucumber salad sounds nice and refreshing. I lost my cucumber plants to heat , i used jiffy pellets to start my seeds and lost all but 2 pepper plants. I lost 36 cannabis seeds in jiffy pellets, I should have known better
Fiddynut
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Good morning Packerfan.
I have to rethink my methods a bit. I don't feed much in veg because I don't veg long and I'm always transplanting into fresh soil every couple weeks. I think that causes me to try to "make up for it" in flower. I know the reputation for the GBs is to have floppy stems and I know Ca makes plants stronger. I think I want to try to incorporate more micro nutes early in the grows. The most intimidating part of growing for me is learning about when and how much of these nutes to use. I've been to both ends of the spectrum with starving and now burning my plants hopefully I can find a happy medium now.
A few months back we had a discussion on calcium in this thread. It was right when I made the switch to RO water. I knew too much ca caused lockouts but was mistaken about using cal/mag too often. I had thought that all the ca in the spring water I was using was causing the issues because of lack of mg. I will defenatly error on the side of too little cal/mag from now on.
@floridian you did warn me to only use cal/mag sparingly. I've loved my plants too much and caused them harm. Lesson learned this time I hope
Fiddynut
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Good morning pop_rocks.
Yes the salting and draining are very important in this type of recipes. I made it without doing it once and it was watery and bland. Let me know how you like it. You can use this base recipe to make other kinds of salad too. You could go with other herbs instead of dill. I really like it and I hope you enjoy it too.
The blue cheese potato salad is good too. You can add almost anything to that like bacon and stuff. The blue cheese can take over a bit if you add too much. I taste a lot when making things to get flavors where I want them.
I love a nice German style potato salad but haven't made one yet. My moms is kind of a sweet and sour style served warm with bacon. Does the Mrs serve it worm or cold? I love trying new things variety is the spice of life.
Yep I'd love to keep temps in the upper 70's and can most of the year. That said I've never been over 82 and I think the heat is only getting to her because she is already stressed by the other factors. The air moves around the basement pretty well but the light and dehumidifier heat the basement up this time of year. I try to keep the AC off until it gets above 80ish in the house. We have ceiling fans in every room so it stays pretty comfortable and I like the cool air coming in at night. My window AC dosent work as well at night when it cools off it messes up the thermostat or something.
I'm looking forward to the weekend as well. The short week was nice and I have another short week next week. I have Sunday and Monday off then work 3 days next week then off Friday and sat next week to go up to the cabin. I'm going up fri morning and coming back Sunday night. The best part of summer for me is being up there and going out on the boat and swimming. Il be pishing the limit of plant hydration being gone almost 3 days. It will only be for 2 light cycles which seems to be where they really dry out so should be fine.
I have to check the outdoor this weekend as well. My friend tells me they are doing well. I'm thinking about top dressing with some EWC and maybe a light feed for her plants.
I hope your short week went well and your able to keep that Holliday spirit going for this weekend too....Fiddy.
Rodehazrd
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Packerfan
Thanks for the tips
How will you do the water? Blumat? I'm thinking of combining that with my double tubs so I water from top and bottom. Always moist that's best I think. Some folk go for stress cycles but that seems counterproductive to me. I would put the 400 gal tanks on stands just above the pots level. I need to build a new tub now so it's my I intention to post some pix of the pro cess. See what you guys think
On the desert grow In a hoophouse I am
Thinking I get away with my normal indoor methods I know they have hoppers there don't know about other pests. That's my main worry getting.g bigger and stronger infestation of something.
Rodehazrd
Rodehazrd
Thanks for the tips
How will you do the water? Blumat? I'm thinking of combining that with my double tubs so I water from top and bottom. Always moist that's best I think. Some folk go for stress cycles but that seems counterproductive to me. I would put the 400 gal tanks on stands just above the pots level. I need to build a new tub now so it's my I intention to post some pix of the pro cess. See what you guys think
On the desert grow In a hoophouse I am
Thinking I get away with my normal indoor methods I know they have hoppers there don't know about other pests. That's my main worry getting.g bigger and stronger infestation of something.
Rodehazrd
Rodehazrd
I thiught you were going to grow in the 400 s. I am probably going to use a sump pump my top shelf is 6 ft high so blumats wouldn't work. I am kind of concerned about salt build up in the pressure compensated drippers I will use dripclean to prevent build up. I am using powdered nutes Hydroponic research Veg and Bloom. Did great last round but i did get some build up.i personally like to let my soil dry out some in between waters or feeds.
Fiddynut
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Rodehazrd said:
Good afternoon Rodehazrd.
Yep I've had some of these symptoms with young plants that got rootbound on my my first couple grows. Looking back now I'm connecting that was when I was using the high ca spring water. I guess that the ca from the water stays in the soil when the water evaporates and builds up to a point that it starts affecting the roots. I was able to overcome it temporarily by transplanting but now I think I have an understanding of the "root" of the problem (hahaha get it root LOL).
I think I've heard that affected leaves never recover but new growth is what to watch for. I think the plant is better off putting the energy into new leaves rather than fix the old ones. I'm glad your Larrys are doing well and you have them back on track.
Sounds like you have some great growing adventures on the horizon. I think plants have to adapt to their growing environment and the humidity around them. Lots of people grow in those climates so their plants must have to get use to it. Good luck on your adventures. If you can grow one plant than you can grow 75 or 750 for that matter. I hope you have some helpers to help set all that up.
We have talked about amending soil in the past and I've been intimidated about sourcing the raw materials and mixing, cooking and the like but I may have another option. A guy my bro when to collage with has a company that custome blends soil and the guy is really well educated on that kind of thing. The guy is 420 friendly and I think I could take some of the soil mix recipes I see here to him and talk about having him make it for me or at l as the would have the materials on hand for me to buy. I'd love to have a water only or just light tea soil dialed in. Over the top Terps are what I'm after.
Fiddynut
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Good afternoon Packerfan.
Sorry to hear about your lost cucumbers. Defenatly give the salad a try sometime. The dill and acidity from the ACV make them kind of like creamy pickles. The red onion adds a little bite.
I've never used jiffy pellets only rapid rooters for cuttings. Can you pop beans in coco or is it better to get them going in a pellet or something like that?
I see a lot of people here use jiffy pellets, I won't again I lost a bunch of stuff with them. I like to start my canna seeds in small cups of happyfrog or light warrior. Going to be popping a bunch of cannabis seeds here soon. I gotta get my calender and get things planned out. Shooting for 8 mabey 8.5 pounds this next 2 rounds, plus hoping to get 2 rounds out of the small room. Should be in the 16-18 pound range. Total for the winter fall seasons indoor. Hopefully the legal bud is way overpriced so I can keep making the money I am now. With 16-18 pounds I shouldn't have to turn the quantity sales down like I am now.
Fiddynut
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Good afternoon Packerfan.
You can't go wrong with cups of soil. Even I get allmost 100% germ rate by soaking my beans overnight in water and then straight into wet soil with them.
Damn 8+ pounds per run sounds so good. If I could do that I'd be set for the year.
Not sure but I think plenty of people will still want to get their bud the old fashioned way even when legal. I think the taxes will insure that prices at the shops are high. Also I've heard that the quality of a lot of the dispensary buds isn't that great. As long as you can keep prices reasonable and the quality is there you should be all good.
Yeah I think 2 of the 4 cities in my little area want to ban all growing , sales, don't think they can ban consumption. I was reading another thread, said the first recreational marijuana is available in Nevada for 80 and 8th, and 400 an oz. Lol that's a joke.
Did my calender going to start popping seeds on the 29 th of this month.
We go to the mountains for new years so I need to be done trimming and have the 2nd round veg in by December 15th or so. Don't want to leave a huge crop unattended.
Did my calender going to start popping seeds on the 29 th of this month.
We go to the mountains for new years so I need to be done trimming and have the 2nd round veg in by December 15th or so. Don't want to leave a huge crop unattended.
jedi5891
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Hey Fiddynut, hope your good mate. Im doing good.
I read before that your nutrient knowledge needed some improvemnt, as what to use when and how much of and what each nutrient actually does. Recently ive been brushing up on my horticultural knowledge as trying raise my game. So ive been watching some very informative videos by an expert bontanist called Healy smith. https://youtu.be/DFgwWEnCa5k
This video is a must watch if your looking to gain expert information.
He explains all about the nutrients and even has videos just about nutrients and their roles etc.
Whats very interesting about the nutrients is how to use certain ones with nutrients that chelate and make them more soluble and readily available. For instance if you use amino acids with Cal then it helps to chelate it and allows instead of 1 ionic bond to pass it allows thousands improving the vascular system and allowing other nutrients to be up taken easier. Also Calcium aids in making stronger stems and shorter nodes, so its worth using. Magnesium is what helps the plant to keep green aiding the chlorofil production.
He explains how most nutrient companies don't tailor their nutrient regime to the plants true requirements, as theres more stages than veg, bloom and flush etc. If you know what the plant requires and when then you can spoon feed your plants amendments as and when they need it. For instance very young seedlings and cuttings benefit from added P as this helps in root growth. So youd just add a bit extra to your veg feed. P is the energy for the plant and stored as phosphate bonds being used as needed. As well as root growth it stimulates bud sites. So in early bloom add a bit to help make more sites. After this any added extra other than the base nutes is a waste. Only need to add some potassium peak bloom as K aids in flower development.
Its about tailoring the feed to the plants growing schedule.
Ive been rocking the DWC for awhile now, im in early bloom. Id advice you to have a look at trying DWC as the rate of growth is off the chart. Ive got some GSC in soil next to some in DWC which were cut from the soil plants. The DWC cookies have surpassed them in height, the stem are fatter and the leaves a nearly twice the size, no Joke, with more fingers. If you master the feeding in hydro you can in fact get a better product. I used to think soil all the way for quality but since understanding hydro a bit ive realized its down to the skill of the garderner. Watch the vids an listen to what the experts are doing with comercal farming hydroponically.
Peace
Namste
I read before that your nutrient knowledge needed some improvemnt, as what to use when and how much of and what each nutrient actually does. Recently ive been brushing up on my horticultural knowledge as trying raise my game. So ive been watching some very informative videos by an expert bontanist called Healy smith. https://youtu.be/DFgwWEnCa5k
This video is a must watch if your looking to gain expert information.
He explains all about the nutrients and even has videos just about nutrients and their roles etc.
Whats very interesting about the nutrients is how to use certain ones with nutrients that chelate and make them more soluble and readily available. For instance if you use amino acids with Cal then it helps to chelate it and allows instead of 1 ionic bond to pass it allows thousands improving the vascular system and allowing other nutrients to be up taken easier. Also Calcium aids in making stronger stems and shorter nodes, so its worth using. Magnesium is what helps the plant to keep green aiding the chlorofil production.
He explains how most nutrient companies don't tailor their nutrient regime to the plants true requirements, as theres more stages than veg, bloom and flush etc. If you know what the plant requires and when then you can spoon feed your plants amendments as and when they need it. For instance very young seedlings and cuttings benefit from added P as this helps in root growth. So youd just add a bit extra to your veg feed. P is the energy for the plant and stored as phosphate bonds being used as needed. As well as root growth it stimulates bud sites. So in early bloom add a bit to help make more sites. After this any added extra other than the base nutes is a waste. Only need to add some potassium peak bloom as K aids in flower development.
Its about tailoring the feed to the plants growing schedule.
Ive been rocking the DWC for awhile now, im in early bloom. Id advice you to have a look at trying DWC as the rate of growth is off the chart. Ive got some GSC in soil next to some in DWC which were cut from the soil plants. The DWC cookies have surpassed them in height, the stem are fatter and the leaves a nearly twice the size, no Joke, with more fingers. If you master the feeding in hydro you can in fact get a better product. I used to think soil all the way for quality but since understanding hydro a bit ive realized its down to the skill of the garderner. Watch the vids an listen to what the experts are doing with comercal farming hydroponically.
Peace
Namste
Rodehazrd
Well-known member
Hey guys
I took a pix of my tubs
I decided to clean the bottoms and rework the media with some new rock powders. worm castings and cow manure. I have a small garden cart holds about 120 gal of soil so i dumped the tubs added my goodies mixed it up and soaked it down with bushdocktor. I covered it up good and will use it in 4 weeks when the larrys are ready to flower.
I put two 4 inch sanitary tees in the bottom with a big air stone. cut a hole the size of my net pot and thats it pack the pot with rock wool its ready, they sit on movers dollys for transport from veg to flower. I fill with six inches of water in bottom and feed from the top, I could do a sight guage for water level but I just slip a yard stick down the side to see.
I will do two plants per tub of the larry im preparing for six of the nine be girls. I think i see two guys in there now.
the other two plants will go in 7 gal pots as they are odd strains fruity chronic juice by delicious blue tag and cotton candy cane by emerald triangle red tag.
I took a pix of my tubs
I decided to clean the bottoms and rework the media with some new rock powders. worm castings and cow manure. I have a small garden cart holds about 120 gal of soil so i dumped the tubs added my goodies mixed it up and soaked it down with bushdocktor. I covered it up good and will use it in 4 weeks when the larrys are ready to flower.
I put two 4 inch sanitary tees in the bottom with a big air stone. cut a hole the size of my net pot and thats it pack the pot with rock wool its ready, they sit on movers dollys for transport from veg to flower. I fill with six inches of water in bottom and feed from the top, I could do a sight guage for water level but I just slip a yard stick down the side to see.
I will do two plants per tub of the larry im preparing for six of the nine be girls. I think i see two guys in there now.
the other two plants will go in 7 gal pots as they are odd strains fruity chronic juice by delicious blue tag and cotton candy cane by emerald triangle red tag.
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those prices are just plain stupid
shows that a lot of legalization isnt about ending the war on drugs, its about greed heads lining their pockets
/ i also wonder how much of that are taxes and other fees passes on to the consumer?
black market growers in those areas will still be in business
Yup, we get screwed with, and they get rich.
whats happening fiddy!
we made it to the weekend,brother!
i hear you about tasting often when cooking
i will also go by smell
if it smells right it will usually taste right
the classic recipie calls for bacon but she never adds it in
also she serves it cold
its pretty good but i like the creamier potato salads myslef
short week for me too next week
me and the mrs are taking friday off together, just to enjoy the summer
is your lady going to be joining you at the cabin?
sounds like your temps are good
maybe you are right that the heat stress coupled wiht another problem is the cause
i agree that the effected leafs might be goners, but keep an eye on the new growth
we made it to the weekend,brother!
i hear you about tasting often when cooking
i will also go by smell
if it smells right it will usually taste right
the classic recipie calls for bacon but she never adds it in
also she serves it cold
its pretty good but i like the creamier potato salads myslef
short week for me too next week
me and the mrs are taking friday off together, just to enjoy the summer
is your lady going to be joining you at the cabin?
sounds like your temps are good
maybe you are right that the heat stress coupled wiht another problem is the cause
i agree that the effected leafs might be goners, but keep an eye on the new growth
life goes on like it always has brother
its been years since ive bought weed and i like maintaining my own supply
i grew up growing in the 80's when penalties were beyond harsh
even tho its quasi legal now, i still grow the old fashion way
/i dont show anyone my grow and rarely talk about what i do
even when its completely legal its still a bush covered in $20bills
while i dont worry as much about goign to jail, i could still loose my job or worse
so i fly low and dont tell anyone about my garden of eden
i guess the more things change the more things stay the same
Rodehazrd
Well-known member
Same here pops only they still take real estate here and all other property they deem associated. I have some apprehension about the paranoia associated with a bigger legal grow too. Rippers abound and we won't know the neighbors. I refuse to hurt someone over money but some of my clan would make a thief into a fishing hole if they caught them.
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