Hey Rh.She fell the night before easter and broke a hip.She survived anesthesia though then this afternoon I get the word that they have to go back in to replace or fix a screw,they fucked up another words.Two times going under for an 86 year old gal.Thanks for enquiring bro it's hard to accept that she has to go through this again
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Rodehazrd
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Floridian
your mom must be one strong woman if the cutters think she is ready for more. I hope she can get more pain relief soon. My mom got a hip at 82 and said surgery and rehab was less pain than a bad hip. not a break tho she just wore hers out on her feet in the cotton mill.
On the subject of mothers of weed my experience has been poor. I got one good batch of clones, then some kind of spindley ones the next round. Third round more spindley and slower growing. She has many bud sites now as she is in flower but my best clones come from lollipop debris. If I were growing for profit I guess mothers would be the best but those lower branches seem to be plenty for my setup.
I want to lower my plant count due to paranoia about sessions.
Fiddy did you think the Larry stretches enough to do a scrog? I think I will find out. Im going with 30 gal tub in tub system with fence post in the corners to hold the net. In the past I only had one per tub this time it will be two per tub and three tubs per 1k. still recycling the media third round adding only WC and Fish Hydro, enzymes and microbes in the water.
Rodehazrd
your mom must be one strong woman if the cutters think she is ready for more. I hope she can get more pain relief soon. My mom got a hip at 82 and said surgery and rehab was less pain than a bad hip. not a break tho she just wore hers out on her feet in the cotton mill.
On the subject of mothers of weed my experience has been poor. I got one good batch of clones, then some kind of spindley ones the next round. Third round more spindley and slower growing. She has many bud sites now as she is in flower but my best clones come from lollipop debris. If I were growing for profit I guess mothers would be the best but those lower branches seem to be plenty for my setup.
I want to lower my plant count due to paranoia about sessions.
Fiddy did you think the Larry stretches enough to do a scrog? I think I will find out. Im going with 30 gal tub in tub system with fence post in the corners to hold the net. In the past I only had one per tub this time it will be two per tub and three tubs per 1k. still recycling the media third round adding only WC and Fish Hydro, enzymes and microbes in the water.
Rodehazrd
Fiddynut
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Good morning pop_rocks.
I have chopped 2,3&4 and not impressed with the size or density of the buds but I'm still hoping it's great smoke. 1 is going to chill for a couple more days or so and she is visibly chunkier with more and fatter buds. The 3 have produced a jam packed gallon zip lock full of great hash material.
That's a great point about ease of cultivation. A plant that is right for your style and environment and stays nice and happy is more likely to be grown to its potential. I could see too low of a yield being a bummer too. When I come across a grow journal whare someone spends 7+ months growing out a pure sativa only to get like an ounce off it I wonder how it could be worth it. Must be some great ganja.
Nice work on the country fried steak. I want a piece of the enchilada casserole. The buttermilk does have some enzymes in it that can tenderize and a day or two soak for chicken before dredge and fry is really good. For the steak I like it because it's thick and has great adhesion properties. I tenderize the steak with one of those meat hammer things with the spikes on the face of the hammer head.
I hope the misses is feeling better. Glad you guys had good weather. It was cold and rainy all weekend and Monday so good thing I had lots of work in the garden and prep and start to paint the kitchen with my weekend.
Fiddynut
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Good morning Rodehazrd.
Sounds like you found a great spot to camp. I love a chill spot to watch the birds and other wild life. I kind of feel like I reconnect with the anamals and nature.
I think the vape pens are the best invention since the pipe, I love being able to catch a buzz all most anywhere without raising any eyebrows.
How were your plants when you got home? Healthy and happy I hope.
I'm going to have a 4 day weekend in a couple weeks and might head north for 2-3 days if the weather is nice. I just have to sync my plant water days up so that I water the morning I leave and I should have nothing to worry about.
Fiddynut
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Good morning Floridian.
I'm sorry to here that they have to go back in there. Let's hope it's a much shorter and simpler surgery the second time. She has a run of good luck due so let's hope for a great recovery and some relief from her pain.
I know it's tough but the more positive you can stay the more it will help her to stay positive. Having a good outlook somehow helps your body heal better and faster. She needs you and you are there for her. Keep trucking brother.
Fiddynut
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Good morning Rodehazrd.
I think my Larry's stretched about 250%. They loved being topped when healthy and had nice colas at the tops. Should be a great scrog strain if yours grow like mine. Mine were in 5 gallon so yours should go nuts in 30 gallon. You using 1 or 2 nets? They were pretty strong branches too. I still have a little left over from the Larry and I grab a bud or two on Sunday's.
That's unfortunate that your clones started growing poorly. I wonder what could have chang d in the mother for the clones to start growing differently?
So you take cuts from the stuff you trim off right before flower and root and veg that then take cuts and into flower with it and so on? I was wondering about how to time something like that. If the cuts root in a couple weeks and then veg for 6 the ones in flower have to finish quick to make space for the cuts. I suppose extended veg time makes more topping and training necessary if you ne d to keep them on the shorter side. Maybe I'll try that with the GBs I've got vegging now.
Keeping my plant count down isn't the worst idea either. My hope is that this new drug war is just a bunch of talk but we have to be prepared to take that asshole seriously. Sessions is not a friend to any of us. But we made it through the 80's and I don't think it will ever get as unfriendly to cannabis as it was then.
Well mom is in the recovery room right now,the nurse said everything went well ans she's OK.Man what a lousy rush its hard to think positive thoughts when its happening,but it all seems OK now.They'll move her back up to her room in the morning they say.Yea timing a perpetual grow can be a bitch sometimes,slowing down my vegging clones always seemed to be a problem,and I liked taking cuts the last day of veg.I had to adjust that to taking cuts 10-14 days into 12/12,no longer than that though.And the bitches were still begging for the flower room before my flowering plants finished.Blockhead was the best strain I did that way,a pretty fast finisher and a pretty slow vegger.I had a great pheno for about three years.I have never kept moms always went the perpetual route and managed.Thats why my plants averaged 6 oz.I started keeping them a full two weeks tight under flo's which is a great way to start a plant,nothing like a 4 incher with 30-40 leaves.I really never experienced this "genetic drift" that people mention after many succesions of taking cuts.About the worst that would happen would be in some phenos the branches wanted to become a bit woody after awhile but there are ways of rooting woody cuts.
how is the smell on the LW's?
i guess the ultimate test is how she smokes so it might be a few more weeks till you get to pass your final verdict on this grow
/plus a big bag of hash makings is alwasy a nice haul if you ask me
im wiht you rhode, it never hurts to keep things small and safe
its easier to claim personal use if you arent growing a whole farm
i usually use the lower branches for clones too
plus i find that a lot of what i grow just sits in their jars because i only grow for myself and mrsChicky right now
/i end up making hash out of it ever few months
i had a couple other med patients i would help out but one cat turned out to be a fool and i no longer help him out
the other person has kind of quit smoking but is still cool wiht the weed
/he still lets me use his rec for plant count as well as letting me plant a few in his yard
before moving onto a perpetual grow, it helps to really know your plants and have your grow dialed in
once you find a strain you like fiddy, i would just start taking cuts and growing it over and over
its all stuff you can do,but it sounds like you are really having a blast growing from seed too
i guess the ultimate test is how she smokes so it might be a few more weeks till you get to pass your final verdict on this grow
/plus a big bag of hash makings is alwasy a nice haul if you ask me
im wiht you rhode, it never hurts to keep things small and safe
its easier to claim personal use if you arent growing a whole farm
i usually use the lower branches for clones too
plus i find that a lot of what i grow just sits in their jars because i only grow for myself and mrsChicky right now
/i end up making hash out of it ever few months
i had a couple other med patients i would help out but one cat turned out to be a fool and i no longer help him out
the other person has kind of quit smoking but is still cool wiht the weed
/he still lets me use his rec for plant count as well as letting me plant a few in his yard
before moving onto a perpetual grow, it helps to really know your plants and have your grow dialed in
once you find a strain you like fiddy, i would just start taking cuts and growing it over and over
its all stuff you can do,but it sounds like you are really having a blast growing from seed too
Fiddynut
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Good evening Floridian.
im glad to here the news is good with your mother. Now it's time for her to heal and keep up with the positivity. You two have been through plenty and this is just one more challenge.
Yep the timing of the perpetual grow has been troubling to me. I think that much veg time might be trouble. That's why I was thinking of keeping a few moms around and also for variety. I don't want to grow the same strain a bunch of times in a row because I want some variety too. Maybe get moms for like 3 strains then alternate grows so I have some of each on hand.
As I grow more and get more experience I'm sure I'll try more things and styles and find a way to accomplish my goals.
Fiddynut
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Good evening pop_rocks.
So far the smell is still mostly skunk/lemon but the #2 had some sweetness that I hadent smelled in her before I started cutting. I didn't smell the sweet in the 3 or 4.
I will puff some as soon as I get some dried and am looking forward to tasting them. Yes probably wait until I have some cure time on them to make verdict.
Big bag of larf and sugar leaves is real nice. Can't wait to see the hash ball it will make.
Since the plant limit here is zero I'm not sure how much more trouble I'd get into for say 2 vs 4 or 6. I know some places they go by weight and weigh your plant in pot with dirt and all. I guess I should check into my local cannabis laws. As if I even want to know hahaha. Fuck em!
That's too bad one of your med patients turned out bad. Sounds like you grow more than enough for you and the misses.
We will see if I find something I really like maybe I could grow it out a bunch. I just love some variety and would have to figure something out with that. I've got years to figure all this out so no big hurry.
thats right,brother!
f-em'!!
i remember growing back in the 80's when things were a lot different
you kind of kept it a secret and were always looking over your shoulder afraid of getting caught
but as long as you are just growing for personal use, whats the crime?
/you would not do any serious time hopefully
plus if you arent selling, whos going to know?
/i think we talked before about privacy in the past
but i grew up in california, where pot laws have always been a bit softer
i bet there are still places where getting caught with a bag of pot could well ruin your day
one day it will be totally legal for all of us to grow a few plants for yourself and share with friends
/ends rant
im suprised that you havent fired up a bowl already,fiddy!
maybe i just have this thing for that wet weed but i usually clip a couple sample buds a little before harvest
there is just something about smoking that really fresh weed
so are the next gen ready to move?
thats a great attitude to have about enjoying the search for that special strain!
im just glad i can join in the ride!
keep it up man
f-em'!!
i remember growing back in the 80's when things were a lot different
you kind of kept it a secret and were always looking over your shoulder afraid of getting caught
but as long as you are just growing for personal use, whats the crime?
/you would not do any serious time hopefully
plus if you arent selling, whos going to know?
/i think we talked before about privacy in the past
but i grew up in california, where pot laws have always been a bit softer
i bet there are still places where getting caught with a bag of pot could well ruin your day
one day it will be totally legal for all of us to grow a few plants for yourself and share with friends
/ends rant
im suprised that you havent fired up a bowl already,fiddy!
maybe i just have this thing for that wet weed but i usually clip a couple sample buds a little before harvest
there is just something about smoking that really fresh weed
so are the next gen ready to move?
thats a great attitude to have about enjoying the search for that special strain!
im just glad i can join in the ride!
keep it up man
Fiddynut
Active member
Good morning pop_rocks.
Yep I can't worry about the consequences too much because I'm going to keep growing no matter what the bullshit laws are. I feel it's my duty to defy them and won't stop. I'd probably rather go to jail for growing than not grow if that makes any sense.
You are right it was way worse in the 80's and around here the 90's too. It's laxed a bit but we are a long way from any kind of med/rec in these parts. Maybe it will have to change at a federal level first for us.
My bro got popped with a couple pounds of swag in the mid 90's here and they had the whole city's police force raid his place and he did a couple years in prison. Now the only busts that I hear about in these parts are big grows over 100 plants and bigger busts of 10+ pounds for distributors. A couple years ago An individual we know got popped in Nebraska with 18 pounds coming from co to wi and only got like a year.
I remember when we moved to Cali and we could just walk down the sidewalk puffing a joint it was very different than I was use to. Now we smoke a bit more openly in public but still have to be carful.
I'm with you this plant should be free as any other plant and all the people who have had their life mess d up by the cops and laws should at least get a pardon and some should get some retribution. Someday....maybe.
So I was going to take a couple early samples but they ripened so quick I didn't get a chance. I have a couple scraps that should be dry by the time I get home from work and I'm dyeing to give it a try. I gave a buddy at work a handful of trim yesterday and he made some tea last night and said he enjoied it. He is an older guy who doesn't smoke anymore but still enjoys a nice tea.
The GBs are a couple weeks out at least. I waited to plant them to giv myself a bit more time than I ne des for the LW's to finish just in case they went long. They were looking hungry this morning so I fed them with PBP grow for the first time. I'm going to transplant them in a couple days then sex em and top them one more transplant and flip. The bottom single bladed leaves were yellowing so I figured they wanted some nutes. I do want to take cuts from them so I won't give them too much N.
I feel like if I get good beans from good breeders I'll stumble across some great plants. And as I learn how to read my plants I'll start getting more out of them. At some point it will all click and I'll have some great fire. In the mean time I'm going to enjoy learning and experiencing different strains and stuff.
I'm glad you are here to accompany me on this voyage, you've been a huge help and inspiration and I enjoy your company....Fiddy.
Rodehazrd
Well-known member
Hey guys and happy Derby week it's cold and you can see the horses breathing in the morning
Derby city seems quiet, today is the steamboat race but the river is way up. The airports usually have Lear jets on every open spot and fancy 100,000 dollar cars revving up all over but maybe I'm just not in town enough now to notice.
On those mothers I grew they never were unhealthy but I guess woody would be better description. Not thick stems you would prefer for clones. Cut at the same time a thick vibrant cut would have roots protruding and the woody cut from the mother would be having little bumps and starts of roots if I pulled out of the rapidrooter.
My veg room has lots of room and I'm liking the 8 week veg cycle. That's two weeks for rooting and 8 for veg it worked on the headband and the Larry should finish in 70 days clones a little faster.
Fiddy I've been reading the hormone links you put up nice work sorting that out for us .
My yarrow is coming on strong and I hope to treat the Larry to some of that. I don't yet have comfrey or alfalfa but the stinging nettles are up and will be available for mid veg. Several commented the nettles were good. As I understand you chop or blend the plant put that in a bucket of water with a bubbler for 24 hrs then spray and drench. I'm still researching on which plants give which hormones so at this point I'm off the rails on hormone supplements but I know I want some.
Rodehazrd
Derby city seems quiet, today is the steamboat race but the river is way up. The airports usually have Lear jets on every open spot and fancy 100,000 dollar cars revving up all over but maybe I'm just not in town enough now to notice.
On those mothers I grew they never were unhealthy but I guess woody would be better description. Not thick stems you would prefer for clones. Cut at the same time a thick vibrant cut would have roots protruding and the woody cut from the mother would be having little bumps and starts of roots if I pulled out of the rapidrooter.
My veg room has lots of room and I'm liking the 8 week veg cycle. That's two weeks for rooting and 8 for veg it worked on the headband and the Larry should finish in 70 days clones a little faster.
Fiddy I've been reading the hormone links you put up nice work sorting that out for us .
My yarrow is coming on strong and I hope to treat the Larry to some of that. I don't yet have comfrey or alfalfa but the stinging nettles are up and will be available for mid veg. Several commented the nettles were good. As I understand you chop or blend the plant put that in a bucket of water with a bubbler for 24 hrs then spray and drench. I'm still researching on which plants give which hormones so at this point I'm off the rails on hormone supplements but I know I want some.
Rodehazrd
as funny as it may sound, i think growing your own is the safest way to go
the most dangerous thing about smoking weed used to be the scoring
i remember some sketchy situations i put myself in just to score a big bag of dope
i usually had good sources, but there were times when i had to score off a "friend of a friend"
one guy i copped from was actually really cool, but also into meth
i hated going to his place because of all the junkies and tweakers that would hang around
but the guy had good smoke and gave me great deals
growing your own weed means no interactions with "dealers"
if you are caught, just say its for your own personal use and hope for a sane jury
that sucks about your brother getting busted and im sure that you were the "big time" dealers the cops love to hold up as an example (and reason why they need more budget money)
agree 100%
grow good beans well and you will always ahve world class smoke
keep it up fiddy, you are well on your way,man
glad to see you back rhode'
are you a fan of the ponies?
ive heard stories about how things get around the derby
that has to be a party scene that rivals any rave
the most dangerous thing about smoking weed used to be the scoring
i remember some sketchy situations i put myself in just to score a big bag of dope
i usually had good sources, but there were times when i had to score off a "friend of a friend"
one guy i copped from was actually really cool, but also into meth
i hated going to his place because of all the junkies and tweakers that would hang around
but the guy had good smoke and gave me great deals
growing your own weed means no interactions with "dealers"
if you are caught, just say its for your own personal use and hope for a sane jury
that sucks about your brother getting busted and im sure that you were the "big time" dealers the cops love to hold up as an example (and reason why they need more budget money)
agree 100%
grow good beans well and you will always ahve world class smoke
keep it up fiddy, you are well on your way,man
glad to see you back rhode'
are you a fan of the ponies?
ive heard stories about how things get around the derby
that has to be a party scene that rivals any rave
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Rodehazrd
Well-known member
Hey pop
I'm not a big pony fan but do go a couple times a year. Dawn at the Downs is always nice they do a breakfast spread ,not a bad crowd and you see and hear the horses up close.
When the wife's parents were around I took them and two aunties to thanksgiving on millionaires row every year for a long time. Fair food no betting lines and we got our own balcony. We would place bets and they could stay warm till call to the post. We try to hit Keenland spring and fall meets mostly for the beauty of it. The paddock is an open yard of old trees. No stalls sir that's your tree over there. They refused even a sound system until 20 years ago. They have sound and video now but you still have to wear a tie to get to upper levels.
Rodehazrd
I'm not a big pony fan but do go a couple times a year. Dawn at the Downs is always nice they do a breakfast spread ,not a bad crowd and you see and hear the horses up close.
When the wife's parents were around I took them and two aunties to thanksgiving on millionaires row every year for a long time. Fair food no betting lines and we got our own balcony. We would place bets and they could stay warm till call to the post. We try to hit Keenland spring and fall meets mostly for the beauty of it. The paddock is an open yard of old trees. No stalls sir that's your tree over there. They refused even a sound system until 20 years ago. They have sound and video now but you still have to wear a tie to get to upper levels.
Rodehazrd
Fiddynut
Active member
Good afternoon Rodehazrd.
Happy derby week to you as well. I don't follow horse racing but sometimes tune in for the derby. I bet it's exciting to be around for that big of an event. A number of the people I work with are horse people but they are more about trail riding and Stadium stuff like barrel racing and pole bending I think they call it.
I know Floridian mentioned the woodieness as well. Must be a symptom of a plant getting older or something. Floridian mentioned he had a method to get woody cuts to root pretty well I think.
I'm glad the threads on plant hormones are of interest to you. Most of it goes over my head but I think it's good info to get familiar with. I've heard mention of nettle tea for plants in a few threads and it sounds good. Let us know the results of the tea you make and use. I love your adventurous approach to growing and it seems like you aren't afraid to try new things.
Fiddynut
Active member
Good morning pop_rocks.
I think you are right that growing your own is the best way to eliminate dealing with people who may be shady. And to be honest even my inexperienced grows give me better quality that I can easily find here.
I remember how hard it was to get anything sometimes in the 80's and early 90's. You would call everyone you knew and they would all be like I'll call you right back and then you wouldn't here from them. It could take days to get anything. The dark ages for sure.
You are right that some good buds would come from unexpected sources sometimes though. I can't tell you how many times I got something good from someone I felt with for the first time only to never be able to score from them again. Really bad supply situation around here especially back in the day. The more things change the more they stay the same I guess.
I consider myself to be lucky to be learning to grow in the info age where I can learn from you guys and others on the forums. Also being able to get the good genetics easily these days helps a lot too. I think you are right if I keep moving forward the quality will keep improving.
Fiddynut
Active member
A couple questions
A couple questions
Greetings friends.
I will wait until the LW's are dry and the final trim is done to be sure about this but I think something was not quite right with my flower cycle on this run. The buds set and the sights developed at week 3ish like they should and I had plenty of bud sights. They didn't seem to fatten like they should have. Then they did ripen normally. The plants were more healthy than any I've grown before. Again maybe my expectations are higher than on past grows but I feel like something happened to discourage the buds from fattening.
I have two ideas that may be to blame.
First my bulb is about a year old and was a cheap Amazon Chinese bulb. Might that bulb be getting weak causing less energy for the plants to use? It's been going the whole year with only a few couple week breaks. How often do you guys change out HPS bulbs?
The other thing I did differently was add a bunch of earth worm castings to the soil that I uppotted into right before flower. Could too much nitro from all the ewc have caused an issue with budding? Do you guys use ewc and if so how much? I think I mixed in like 15-20% into the final batch of soil. My leaves were very green right to the end. Some of the fans were huge, much bigger than my past plants.
Any experience you guys have with bulbs and ewc would be great. Not sure if either were issues just kind of thinking about what would have changed. Since it was a new strain for me it could be that as well but I want to not make the same mistake again if it was one of those things. Thanks in advance for your thoughts and experiences shared.
A couple questions
Greetings friends.
I will wait until the LW's are dry and the final trim is done to be sure about this but I think something was not quite right with my flower cycle on this run. The buds set and the sights developed at week 3ish like they should and I had plenty of bud sights. They didn't seem to fatten like they should have. Then they did ripen normally. The plants were more healthy than any I've grown before. Again maybe my expectations are higher than on past grows but I feel like something happened to discourage the buds from fattening.
I have two ideas that may be to blame.
First my bulb is about a year old and was a cheap Amazon Chinese bulb. Might that bulb be getting weak causing less energy for the plants to use? It's been going the whole year with only a few couple week breaks. How often do you guys change out HPS bulbs?
The other thing I did differently was add a bunch of earth worm castings to the soil that I uppotted into right before flower. Could too much nitro from all the ewc have caused an issue with budding? Do you guys use ewc and if so how much? I think I mixed in like 15-20% into the final batch of soil. My leaves were very green right to the end. Some of the fans were huge, much bigger than my past plants.
Any experience you guys have with bulbs and ewc would be great. Not sure if either were issues just kind of thinking about what would have changed. Since it was a new strain for me it could be that as well but I want to not make the same mistake again if it was one of those things. Thanks in advance for your thoughts and experiences shared.
Yea Fiddy I doubt it was too much N from the ewc but you never know,you know castings are NPK rated right?A lot of people don't realize this as I didn't for many years.I was surprised as hell to see an NPK rating on ewc and though it was a mistake at first.The lamps I do know about and bro can't say enough of their importance,its at least as important as food IMO and may be even more important,in flower that is but also in veg to a lesser extent.I never do more than 3 60 day grows at 12/12 and believe me,I did experiment and took note about their importance.I tried different ones to traditional " underground parking garage HPS" to the most expensive highest "PAR" rated ones.The one I found to give me the best results is the one that probably 80% of growers will tell you.Hortilux is best unless things have changed and the best place I've found to get them is 1000 bulbs.com.Hell It's been awhile lol if that's wrong somebody will correct me.I wouldn't do more than 3 grows Fiddy,I know that seems like not enough but it's right bro.Don't grow optimumly and then cheap out or overuse your lamps.
