few questions on strains from ace

[moon tune]

I really like the Kali China (and crosses), I'd never grown the same variety twice before that and now it's on rotation for me.
The Malawi x PCK is absolutely lethal, not the highest thc count but really strong, really nice weed.
It might be worth just asking dubi or Luis (I assume they're different people ) about some of the hybrids they haven't got listed - Malawi x Panama is nice and there's probably others you could enquire about.
If you can wait, there's some Ethiopian strain being released soon as well as one from Honduras too.

Nice... Yeah malawi x P.C.K seems like a nice combo for sure. Kali China too. Interesting fact about Honduras, it's the most dangerous place in the world right now, probably has some killer weed though. I don't know how they're getting the genetics but hell I'll try it. Anything tropical pure sativa I'm down to try out. Time and space is an issue so I needed you guys to help me narrow it down a bit.

That's funny when I saw the video on youtube from Ace with Luis I was thinking... that gotta be dubi... lol

 

[nksv]

ok off to order the malawi x P.C.K now haha

there's definately an integrity with what ACE are doing that I haven't really seen - just my experience.

 

[moon tune]

hallo moon tune, i read from dubis's post you can find a thai pheno, with characteristic you are looking for, inside zamadelicia regular pack . now i'm running a feminized pack and i notice a strong influence from malawi in most of them but also i found two taller and fruiter phenos
i can't say from wich part came from. actually i'm running panama and purple haze x malawi and are all interesting beautiful plants. i have also a new fem pack of panama haze and i ask my self several times in this month why i didn't open it too ,looking how grows panamas i think is another great choice. green phenos are usually where to find creative, psychedelic, motivational high..and from a bigger number of plant you can see better the phenotypes expression inside the same family hope helps a little . i think we are walking on the same road

nice info, thanks akirabull. Zamaldelica is definitely on the list for sure. I spoke to someone that grew out congo and panama (not panama haze, that sounds nice) and I doubt either of those are really what I'm looking for but probably great in there own way. I've heard the panama can be pretty stoney.

 

[moon tune]

ok off to order the malawi x P.C.K now haha

lol good choice it seems, looks like a beauty as they all do.

I forgot to add on what you mentioned about the hermie femmed seeds... I don't know what the deal with that is?

I'm staying standard always... never want ANYTHING to do with fem or autoflower. Especially in landrace. Seems like a weird thing when females are >50% odds and good males are the hardest to find and killer when you get a good one... make mad seeds!

 

[nksv]

i'm really curious on their indicas as I've only been smoking the sats! need a 'rest' strain!

 

[akirabull]

yes you are probably right with the high of panama but you never know if you touch the right plant ,personally i think these guy works hard to improve genetics , holland and u.s.a. seeds are great but they are more on money maker weed than pure medicine for old smokers and most of them are really sensitive to hermy for stress environment , mold, etc etc . when i start to look ace variety i was finding one champion strain like you but now i think it's difficult to choose because are all interesting. look also inside the pack breed seed....super interesting too

 

[moon tune]

yes you are probably right with the high of panama but you never know if you touch the right plant ,personally i think these guy works hard to improve genetics , holland and u.s.a. seeds are great but they are more on money maker weed than pure medicine for old smokers and most of them are really sensitive to hermy for stress environment , mold, etc etc . when i start to look ace variety i was finding one champion strain like you but now i think it's difficult to choose because are all interesting. look also inside the pack breed seed....super interesting too

Agreed... I don't trust American breeders for the most part, marketing level will be high, we are good at it, and like I mentioned before, there is no way they are going to these South American and south-east Asian landrace locations and getting premium seeds, I don't buy it for a second. I'm sure they have some nice stoney indica plants fine, but not for landrace sativa. A spanish guy from Spain it think it might not be as dangerous for, someone like whitey gringo from the States wouldn't last 5 minutes in the ganja fields of these places. I would assume most of them are meeting with other BS breeders and being told they are whatever they want to hear they are, they aren't going to these locations.

I'm sure there are nice sativa pheno of Panama but I'd rather go with something a bit more likely to get what it says it is on a pack of seeds minus any males, than having to hope I get the green or red pheno.

I'll go with 5 or so strains including an indica strain for high CBD.

 

[moon tune]

Plus what's with all these crazy kush names and wacked out names like "dog sh*t" and this and that... it's like people are going for straight taste rather than high as they all seem the same as far as cannabinoid ratios, that's a$$ backwards to me. There is nothing wrong with marketing your product but don't lie about it. I'm sure they are all slightly worked, but this feminized and autoflower thing erks me too.

For example I have gotten this gorilla glue #4 (dislike it, too stoney) and a bunch of different kush varieties, lemon kush being the best so far. I can get white widow which is nice and some sour diesel, but that's about it. I used to get silver haze and other haze varieties many many years ago, stuff was good and not even grown to full potential... commercial operations. I cringe.... I want organic pure sativa or mostly sativa dominant stuff 90% of the time. Just some quality head smoke is all I ask... and like the old saying goes, If you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself.

 

[Limeygreen]

Panama seems to have a good reputation, what about Haze x Panama?

 

[Baron Greenback]

Any of the Ace feminised seeds are rock solid. They're all I grow from them, plus some of the parents differ slightly so make for a different smoke.
Don't worry about hermies at all

 

[moon tune]

Panama seems to have a good reputation, what about Haze x Panama?

Haven't read the thread fully? No worries, I don't blame you....

They all seem to have a great reputation but I am looking for a specific effect and I've read panama is a bit stoney which is an effect I am not looking for, but I don't know for sure. Panama x Haze looks great but that's a lot of crosses how solid are they? I am looking for something without much variation at first. I want landrace or a simple F1 cross.

I want Thai, African, Columbian landraces (as close as possible). Obviously as good as Ace or anyone else's reputation is... to get an actual "landrace" these days I'm doubting highly.

I'd prefer worked lineage making an F1 cross anyway so when I get a 10 pack i'll find something in there instead of having to grow out a shitload of different seeds like you would on F2's with a lot of variation.

 

[moon tune]

Any of the Ace feminised seeds are rock solid. They're all I grow from them, plus some of the parents differ slightly so make for a different smoke.
Don't worry about hermies at all

Baron, yeah I can see there use I guess, but what is the process they use? I don't like the whole idea personally, but they should be cheaper than standard if you ask me.

Me for instance when I see the standards are out on a specific strain and only feminized available, I'm gonna pass on it, but that's just me, I want to find a sick male anyway to make more seeds.

 

[moon tune]

In the end, whether it's landrace or not, I'm just looking for the effects I am want (as described earlier in the thread).

 

[farmerlion]

I have about 16 to 20 varieties from Ace. 1 out of 3 plants floors me in plant quality. The other two are very nice. I tend to buy regular seeds myself. Some are feminized only. If I kept every plant that could be a parental doner. I wouldn't have a grow room. Ace's description of plants and effects is spot on. The pictures in the brochure are the plant you get. Providing everything goes well.(bugs, deer, ect). Wish you well. Peace

 

[moon tune]

Thanks farmerlion, appreciate your input, that sounds like solid work from Ace if I have ever heard.

I hope everyone can understand my doubts in breeders, but I haven't doubted Ace, I am only posting here because I have faith in them, the price is right, so if Ace doesn't have it I'm probably going to stop buying seeds and just forget about it until I can get a cutting of something I know is perfect for what I want.

 

[Holeshot]

Panama

Panama

Hey moon Tune, I've been growing Panama Fem for a while now. It isn't Stoney at all .!!! I usually pick at 12 weeks and it gives a very good up social high . Zamaldelica fem I have , has the best up social high for me with a little trippyness to go with it .

 

[moon tune]

Thanks holeshot.

wanted golden tiger too. not sure where dubi is, hopefully he is restocking...

 

[dubi]

Hi moon tune,

It's not the same to select from P1 unworked landraces than select from highly worked inbred lines or strains.

Typically you can grow up to 15-20 females of an unworked P1 landrace and maybe only find 1-2 desirable non hermie females to keep working with the line and to produce a better, more refined second generation. For example, this aprox ratio of desirable females were found when we were selecting from the original Honduras and Ethiopian seeds, the new generation of the strains we are about to release is much better than the previous we had to go through. Of course, every line has the potential to be improved (or get worst) with every breeding generation.

On the other hand, our highly worked inbred lines and hybrids have been bred and tested to produce consistently good quality and good phenos, usually growers find 'that special female' in a single pack of 5 fem seeds or in a 10 seed regular pack, but some just pop a single fem seed and get outstanding results too. Guess it all depends of the luck, and how high you set the bar for an elite plant.

Based on your preferences for the effect, i would recommend you Zamaldelica, Tikal, Purple Haze x Malawi, Panama green pheno, the more sativa Congo and Orient Express phenos, Bangi Haze. And also the Honduras and Ethiopian sativas we are about to release.

Hope it helps, let me know if you have any other doubt.

 

[moon tune]

Thanks for getting back dubi, that was informative. Breeding is certainly not my specialty.

As you can see from my other posts here in the Ace forum, I'm not very trusting of breeders as a whole as I've not had great experiences in the past, and I'm aware how shady the business is from past experiences, and speaking with veterans that know the deal on many.

Trust me when I say, I do my research, and I can't find a single bad thing on Ace strains from anyone on any forum. Only thing is from people who claim there is no way it's true landrace or this and that, but to tell you the truth I don't care at all, as long as I get the effects I want without having to grow a boatload of seeds, and the plant doesn't go hermie. I will give Ace a try and see what this is all about. The price is certainly fair.

 

[Chupacabra1]

Thanks for getting back dubi, that was informative. Breeding is certainly not my specialty.

As you can see from my other posts here in the Ace forum, I'm not very trusting of breeders as a whole as I've not had great experiences in the past, and I'm aware how shady the business is from past experiences, and speaking with veterans that know the deal on many.

Trust me when I say, I do my research, and I can't find a single bad thing on Ace strains from anyone on any forum. Only thing is from people who claim there is no way it's true landrace or this and that, but to tell you the truth I don't care at all, as long as I get the effects I want without having to grow a boatload of seeds, and the plant doesn't go hermie. I will give Ace a try and see what this is all about. The price is certainly fair.

You're in the right place my friend, ace is the place. From seeing your pervious post about your knowledge of the organic soil full of microbial life you can't go wrong with that as well. You've done your research well friend, now to put it to the test. Best of luck.