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Fentanyl found in unregulated vape cartridges in other states. ‘Just a matter of time

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Fentanyl found in unregulated vape cartridges in other states. ‘Just a matter of time’ before it comes to Utah

Posted 7:28 pm, November 1, 2019, by Sydney Glenn





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SALT LAKE CITY — Fentanyl is one of the deadliest drugs on the market. Just a small amount of the synthetic drug could cause someone to overdose and potentially die, said Brian Besser, the district agent in charge for the DEA in Utah.
“Fentanyl is the number one problem we are seeing with the cartels because they are putting that out in mass,” Besser said.
Friday, Besser read an alarming DEA intelligence report stating fentanyl had been found in unregulated vape cartridges in other areas of the nation. While there haven’t been any reported cases of this in Utah, Besser said it’s only a matter of time.
This is extremely concerning, Besser said.
“We are starting to see fentanyl make its way into the vaping industry, and we see that we are definitely going to see the death counts go up,” he said.
Vaping has been a heated topic in Utah. The latest numbers from the Utah Dept. of Health show more than 100 people have become sick from a vaping related illness and one person has died. Almost 90 percent of the patients have admitted to using unregulated THC cartridges.
The possibility of unregulated vape cartridges with fentanyl adds to the concerns of people using any sort of unregulated vape product, The C.O.O. of Odyssey House said.
“In terms of people buying illicit vape cartridges I think there needs to be a lot of caution there,” Christina Zidow said.
It is especially concerning with the youth population, Zidow said.
“That scares me a lot because I know many, many, many people vape,” she said.
Most people who come in contact with fentanyl, do so unknowingly, Besser said. Although there are people who seek out the strong drug.
“You are talking about a substance here that is over 100 times more potent, more powerful than street-level heroin,” he said.
Fentanyl is easy to disguise, Besser said, and has been found in a variety of drugs like marijuana, heroin, cocaine, pressed pills and other drugs.
“Synthetics are easy to make even though they are complex chemically, they are extremely volatile and very, very dangerous,” he said.
If you or someone you know is struggling with addiction, there are resources out there.
The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) offers a free, confidential, 24/7, 365-day-a-year treatment referral and information service (in English and Spanish) for individuals and families facing mental and/or substance use disorders. SAMHSA’s National Helpline can be reached by calling 1-800-662-HELP (4357) or on its website.
“Hope and help is possible and so is recovery,” Zidow said.
 

therevverend

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Friday, Besser read an alarming DEA intelligence report stating fentanyl had been found in unregulated vape cartridges in other areas of the nation.

I'm sure this is fake news. Tried to find evidence of it from a reputable news source, nowhere to be found. More hysteria and fear mongering..
 

AgentPothead

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Uh, the US has over 100 opioid related overdose deaths a day. If you seriously think fentanyl is hysteria and fear mongering you might need to turn off the computer and interact with the communities around you that are suffering non stop.
 

Ringodoggie

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Actually, Fentanyl seems to be doing a stellar job of culling the herd. Something that is sorely needed.


As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point. Natural selection, the process by which the strongest, the smartest, the fastest, reproduced in greater numbers than the rest, a process which had once favored the noblest traits of man, now began to favor different traits. Most science fiction of the day predicted a future that was more civilized and more intelligent. But as time went on, things seemed to be heading in the opposite direction. A dumbing down. How did this happen? Evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence. With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most, and left the intelligent to become an endangered species.



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hush

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I'm with the reverend on this one. I legit just tried to track down the DEA report that is being referenced in the Fox article, but no one seems to be linking to it. I found a news report from some local affiliate out of Utah (remember, it was allegedly a DEA agent in Utah who reported this story, so, this report is already looking a little incestuous) that hyperlinked their mention of this DEA agent's report, but the hyperlink leads me to another corporate news service website, and the article talks about how lots of various drugs are ending up in vape pens, but I couldn't see the specific mention of fentanyl anywhere (and they went so far as to call out flakka, so it's not like the writer was unable to come up with known drugs). Later on in the same article they hyperlinked another claim about this report, but that hyperlink led to the very same Fox article in the original post of this thread.

Yes, poisons exist. And yes, those poisons can be injected into trick-or-treat candy. But there's no evidence that they ever have been. Same goes for this vape story. It's just another incarnation of the poison halloween candy trope.
 

AgentPothead

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If you want internal DEA reports you will need to use the freedom of information act and try to get it. Accidental drug over dose is the leading cause of death in the US for people over 50. It's the #1 cause. Full stop. Fentanyl is everywhere in the US illegal drug supply chain. Sticking your head in the sand and acting like it's not actually happening is just silly. Admittedly that's 1/10 the amount of people dying each year from heart disease and you won't ever see a national emergency declared for being a fat ass, but acting like it's not happening is ridiculous. Maybe it's just living in the town that was literally in the Anthony Bourdain episode about small town opioid epidemics that skews my point of view, but this shit is everywhere people. If you are in any doubt at all visit your local ER and ask them how many suspected overdoses a night they get.
 

Ringodoggie

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Sorry guys... maybe I am not understanding this fentynal thing. Isn't it just killing junkies and white trash/jigaboos that we don't want anyway?

I'm pretty sure this isn't an upper-middle class issue, is it?

Now, opioids and pain killers affect all classes but 90% of that comes from legal doctors and pharmacoms. I am not a news hound but from what little I have heard about fentanyl it is a junkie/I'mgladyourdeadandnotsuckingmytaxdollars group of people.








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AgentPothead

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It's the #1 cause of death for people over age 50. The only reason it's getting any airplay at all is it's most definitely an upper middle class issue. You think the crack epidemic got as much of a response even though a lot more people died? Gimme a fucking break people.
 

pipeline

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fentenyl can be put into cannabis flower too! Scary stuff! Grow your own and take care of your friends! :smoke:
 

armedoldhippy

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i have not heard/read about weed or vapes with it in there. would not surprise me if some money-grubbing SOB put it in vapes though. would not shock me if some hard core "drug warrior" sprayed weed with it to try to prove pot is dangerous either. hell, the US govt used to spray paraquat on mexican weed fields knowing what it did to people if they smoked it. "can you say Kevin Sabet? of COURSE you can..." he or one of his ilk (Jeff Sessions?) will be the most likely suspects in my mind.
 

Gry

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i have not heard/read about weed or vapes with it in there. would not surprise me if some money-grubbing SOB put it in vapes though. would not shock me if some hard core "drug warrior" sprayed weed with it to try to prove pot is dangerous either. hell, the US govt used to spray paraquat on mexican weed fields knowing what it did to people if they smoked it. "can you say Kevin Sabet? of COURSE you can..." he or one of his ilk (Jeff Sessions?) will be the most likely suspects in my mind.
Somethings never seem to change.
 

CodyPomeray

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If i wanted to figure out how drug networks worked, i would taint the main supplies with fent and see where the overdoses start happening. Food for thought.. That has always been mine.
 

nickman

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How the hell can u lace weed with fentanyl ??? Wouldn’t it look white, and have a powder on the buds... I’d think it would be very noticeable...!!!...

I could maybe see in a vape pen but not on herb...
 

armedoldhippy

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How the hell can u lace weed with fentanyl ??? Wouldn’t it look white, and have a powder on the buds... I’d think it would be very noticeable...!!!...

I could maybe see in a vape pen but not on herb...

dissolve it in alcohol & spray it on. alcohol will evaporate in a while...
 
I don't get why the drug cartels would want to lace heroin ect. with fentanyl. It seems counter productive from a business point of view. They have to know that their end customers can't be trusted to take smaller doses and everytime one overdoses that's one less sale.
 

Bobby Boucher

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People love fentanyl here, and anywhere else heroine is easy enough to find. I've heard vaping it is much more effective and economical.

I haven't read anything about it yet. I've only heard about it from my festival-going buddies.

PG is a pretty aggressive solvent. Pretty sure you could toss just about anything in there and with a bit of gentle heat and agitation, have about any kind of fucky drug concoction your heart desires.

Based on my experience, I would guess that its the shitty bratty children of semi-decent middle-class parents who are disproportionately effected.

Those are the only dope heads I know.
 

Oliver Pantsoff

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Sorry guys... maybe I am not understanding this fentynal thing. Isn't it just killing junkies and white trash/jigaboos that we don't want anyway?

I'm pretty sure this isn't an upper-middle class issue, is it?

Now, opioids and pain killers affect all classes but 90% of that comes from legal doctors and pharmacoms. I am not a news hound but from what little I have heard about fentanyl it is a junkie/I'mgladyourdeadandnotsuckingmytaxdollars group of people.








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These so called "white trash/jigaboos" are someone's family member, friends, etc

Good people get addicted to drugs all the time. Take your racist piece of shit comments n shove em up your ass bitch!!!

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