@ Bobblehead. I would sure be interested to see your pics of the final harvest of your reveg grow that started off like Femora's. Mind dropping a link?
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Femora's workshop! 600W HPS, 1,2x1,2m SCRoG! 3 DP;s WWxTU, 2 Euforia
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Femora
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Offthehook, what do u mean with "keep in veg" for as long as possible?
Like maxsize them cus lack of bushy growth?
Anyways; there is a great possibility to learn something here!
I topped 2 of the euforias that were looking strange. Those were like 5/6 curled, and wwxtu only 2/6..
However, all the ladies seem to be shooting 3-fingers, and the non-curled ones goes 5-fingers.
Well, done is done, and now there is a experiment going on!
Ive harvested 3 plants tonight. Im impressed by the the euforia that seemed a bit... I dunno.... Fluffy and spread out but she was really dense, and filled with nice dense popcorn, but small topcolas.
And the wwxtu is... Arr... SO much larf!
I sholda been way rougher on the lollipoppig, and probably let them pop up more from the net. But its so hard when nothing dialed, and low on experience... Next time, next time.....
3 down, 2 to go!
Pics will come later.. Have faith!
Stay safe!
Like maxsize them cus lack of bushy growth?
Anyways; there is a great possibility to learn something here!
I topped 2 of the euforias that were looking strange. Those were like 5/6 curled, and wwxtu only 2/6..However, all the ladies seem to be shooting 3-fingers, and the non-curled ones goes 5-fingers.
Well, done is done, and now there is a experiment going on!
Ive harvested 3 plants tonight. Im impressed by the the euforia that seemed a bit... I dunno.... Fluffy and spread out but she was really dense, and filled with nice dense popcorn, but small topcolas.
And the wwxtu is... Arr... SO much larf!
I sholda been way rougher on the lollipoppig, and probably let them pop up more from the net. But its so hard when nothing dialed, and low on experience... Next time, next time.....
3 down, 2 to go!
Pics will come later.. Have faith!
Stay safe!
Quote femora: Offthehook, what do u mean with "keep in veg" for as long as possible?
Like maxsize them cus lack of bushy growth? Unquote.
> To first create lots of roots, healthy big leafes & lots of budding sites before throwing them in flower.
I'm glad you cut the main stems, so now their effort will go into building up healthy sets of leafes that are capable of sustaining plenty of bud sites.
It will take up rather much time before you can flip to 12/12 tho.
Much longer as with non reveg clones where all went fine right from the beginning.
(Ps. the time factor and the idea that you were to flower 1 leafed stems was why I sugested to abandon the project completely, but now when I see how fond you are of your revegs, I'm actually glad you intend to continue )
Still it would be nice to see the pics as mentioned by Bobblehead.
For me it is real hard to imagine that 1 leafed stems can actually turn into realy well yielding main cola's. Please proof me wrong and I will shut up forever! LOL
Like maxsize them cus lack of bushy growth? Unquote.
> To first create lots of roots, healthy big leafes & lots of budding sites before throwing them in flower.
I'm glad you cut the main stems, so now their effort will go into building up healthy sets of leafes that are capable of sustaining plenty of bud sites.
It will take up rather much time before you can flip to 12/12 tho.
Much longer as with non reveg clones where all went fine right from the beginning.
(Ps. the time factor and the idea that you were to flower 1 leafed stems was why I sugested to abandon the project completely, but now when I see how fond you are of your revegs, I'm actually glad you intend to continue
)Still it would be nice to see the pics as mentioned by Bobblehead.
For me it is real hard to imagine that 1 leafed stems can actually turn into realy well yielding main cola's. Please proof me wrong and I will shut up forever! LOL
Femora
Member
I think we just misunderstood each other (?)
I did not plan to flower them while beeing in "1finger-mode" but to let them veg a while until they are big enough to suit my vertscrog. In another 10-14 days or so they should all be in full finger leaf-mode, eh, then its just to guess the suitable size to decide flip..
Im I way off? Of did you mean that when they once revegged to 1-fingers-> back to full leafs they will yield shit anyway?
Any chance to gain knowledge, is to be seriously concidered! :>
I did not plan to flower them while beeing in "1finger-mode" but to let them veg a while until they are big enough to suit my vertscrog. In another 10-14 days or so they should all be in full finger leaf-mode, eh, then its just to guess the suitable size to decide flip..
Im I way off? Of did you mean that when they once revegged to 1-fingers-> back to full leafs they will yield shit anyway?
Any chance to gain knowledge, is to be seriously concidered! :>
I am talking about the main stem.
If you would continue to grow the 1 fingered mainstem into a main cola, then this main cola would hardly produce any bud, but instead would take energy away from the side buds with no compensation.
Those small leafes are not enough to sustain a lush side growth, so all the side growth will need to become sustained by itselves, (wich takes her a hell of a lot longer to provide for budding sites that then will become of inferior quality.)
That's why I'm glad you cut them off, so now your budding sites will be provided for by multi shaped leafes, putting their energy in the right (side) buds and not in the retarded main cola anylonger.
Hope this cleared up some misunderstandings?, Maybe note that both our english is not native and has caused me misunderstandings in my private life too on occasion.
And if not that, well, then we 'll just gotto blame the herb, lol. I'm a bit slow atm yanno Still doing my upper best to explain myself as good as I can.[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Im I way off? Of did you mean that when they once revegged to 1-fingers-> back to full leafs they will yield shit anyway?[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Im I way off? Of did you mean that when they once revegged to 1-fingers-> back to full leafs they will yield shit anyway?[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Im I way off? Of did you mean that when they once revegged to 1-fingers-> back to full leafs they will yield shit anyway?[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Im I way off? Of did you mean that when they once revegged to 1-fingers-> back to full leafs they will yield shit anyway?[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Im I way off? Of did you mean that when they once revegged to 1-fingers-> back to full leafs they will yield shit anyway?[/FONT]
If you would continue to grow the 1 fingered mainstem into a main cola, then this main cola would hardly produce any bud, but instead would take energy away from the side buds with no compensation.
Those small leafes are not enough to sustain a lush side growth, so all the side growth will need to become sustained by itselves, (wich takes her a hell of a lot longer to provide for budding sites that then will become of inferior quality.)
That's why I'm glad you cut them off, so now your budding sites will be provided for by multi shaped leafes, putting their energy in the right (side) buds and not in the retarded main cola anylonger.
Hope this cleared up some misunderstandings?, Maybe note that both our english is not native and has caused me misunderstandings in my private life too on occasion.
And if not that, well, then we 'll just gotto blame the herb, lol.
I'm a bit slow atm yanno Still doing my upper best to explain myself as good as I can.[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Im I way off? Of did you mean that when they once revegged to 1-fingers-> back to full leafs they will yield shit anyway?[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Im I way off? Of did you mean that when they once revegged to 1-fingers-> back to full leafs they will yield shit anyway?[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Im I way off? Of did you mean that when they once revegged to 1-fingers-> back to full leafs they will yield shit anyway?[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Im I way off? Of did you mean that when they once revegged to 1-fingers-> back to full leafs they will yield shit anyway?[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Im I way off? Of did you mean that when they once revegged to 1-fingers-> back to full leafs they will yield shit anyway?[/FONT]
microwavablecat
Member
YO Femora throw some pictures up will ya, i wanna see that microwave lamp you got in there and some spinning ak47 salad on that plate.
'pling'
'pling'
Femora
Member
Microcat; the remainings of the AK47-sallad can be found @ https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=249944&page=4
There will be a trimmed pic, and weight when she is dry.
Its for sure a dense cola...
I need to get to my cpu before I can post more pics... :/
Offthehook; slow-mode is a nice mode!
Since im not using the eng. language more then throu cpu/movies its fast forgotten.. And for sure... It does not help at all that I sometimes post from the phone. lol!
I like the fact that its easy to not be offended by misunderstandings ovet the net,rather then the awkward situation that may occure IRL.
I'll never mind to explain once more, if there is something missing. i hate to leave someone "in the dark" just they dont dare to ask again.. Hehe..
However; i still miss one part of the finger-thingy.
What if I reveg the ladies until they all have multiple finger leafs on the retarded mainstem? Will that make any difference u think?
I understood u as... Errr... Uhm... If i flower the plant when they still are in 1-fingermode the yield fookup, but if I let them go longer in veg it will sort out just fine.. (?)
Right now they all have passed the 1finger-mode and is making mew 3-fingers/5f-ingers.
Euforia: 1 normal veg, 2 with topped (previously retarded stems), 3 with still retarded stems.
WWxTU; 4 normal, 2 1-finger-stems.
And again.... All plants has passed into at least 3finger mode!
Well... In a few months we know for sure.. Hehe..
G'night!
Fem~
There will be a trimmed pic, and weight when she is dry.
Its for sure a dense cola...
I need to get to my cpu before I can post more pics... :/
Offthehook; slow-mode is a nice mode!
Since im not using the eng. language more then throu cpu/movies its fast forgotten.. And for sure... It does not help at all that I sometimes post from the phone. lol!
I like the fact that its easy to not be offended by misunderstandings ovet the net,rather then the awkward situation that may occure IRL.
I'll never mind to explain once more, if there is something missing. i hate to leave someone "in the dark" just they dont dare to ask again.. Hehe..
However; i still miss one part of the finger-thingy.
What if I reveg the ladies until they all have multiple finger leafs on the retarded mainstem? Will that make any difference u think?
I understood u as... Errr... Uhm... If i flower the plant when they still are in 1-fingermode the yield fookup, but if I let them go longer in veg it will sort out just fine.. (?)
Right now they all have passed the 1finger-mode and is making mew 3-fingers/5f-ingers.
Euforia: 1 normal veg, 2 with topped (previously retarded stems), 3 with still retarded stems.
WWxTU; 4 normal, 2 1-finger-stems.
And again.... All plants has passed into at least 3finger mode!
Well... In a few months we know for sure.. Hehe..
G'night!
Fem~
microwavablecat
Member
LOL i love it when english native speaking people complain on my grammar etc, ok so try speaking german will ya? no? what a big suprise
Quote Femora: I understood u as... Errr... Uhm... If i flower the plant when they still are in 1-fingermode the yield fookup, but if I let them go longer in veg it will sort out just fine.. (?)
Unquote.
Yes, If you would flower the plant in 1-fingermode you would get pretty much no any bud at all, so they need to go longer in veg. But then you should do that without the main cola but instead, focus on the side growth exclusivly.
Unquote.
Yes, If you would flower the plant in 1-fingermode you would get pretty much no any bud at all, so they need to go longer in veg. But then you should do that without the main cola but instead, focus on the side growth exclusivly.
Femora
Member
Cutdown! 26 Feb. Day 76 12/12
Cutdown! 26 Feb. Day 76 12/12
The plants had forfilled their duty and have now been chopped down.
Right now they are drying with a lil fan in side the growroom.. Its quite humid and cold in there when only the 200w CFL was on for the new batch. About 13-14 degrees, and humidity between 60 and 95%.
Im a bit afraid of mold so I moved my new ladies to the bigger chamber and gave them the 600w HPS 20/4, and during the 4 hour night they have there is the 500w heater blowing air into the room about 3,5 of those hours... (beein' careful so I wont load the lone with 1100w+ fans and shit..)
And there is a small fan, going 30 min, still 60 on repeat 24/7. Just moving the air around, not really blowing straight on the buds..
The WWxTU coulda need another week.. But... it was quite hard to tell from the topview, and underneath there was so much shit going on. They had really nice topcolas, but quite larfy in the middle of the screen..
The Euforia seemed to be better off all over. Denser nugs, less larf, but she was really giving me some sissor-hasch... like 8 times more then the wwxtu whom reallt didnt leave anything on the blades, nor fingers. Quite strange..
Well; Here is what you wanna see.. Some harvest pics!
And yeah... sorry for the crappy quality. I really need to get myself a new camera...!
The princess!
Those red/purple stems.. Is that Phosphorous Deficiency?
A WWxTU bud... you see how thin and larfy is goes a bit down... where its been in the scrog-jungle!?!
Another WWxTU-nug..
We splitted the harves over 2 evenings cus I had to get up so friggin early the next day. This is the result of 1 euforia (upper container)
and 1 White Widow x The Ultimate, 1 Euforia in the bigger one. (Edit; we kinda lacked in communication and I just handed my finished trimmed bud to my mate that tossed them into thesame box as the WWxTU.
Well, it was quite easy to get most of them sorted out afterwards..)
And the yummi yummi;
tbc... Postlimit reached.. <zzZZzzzzZzZzzzz...>
Cutdown! 26 Feb. Day 76 12/12
The plants had forfilled their duty and have now been chopped down.
Right now they are drying with a lil fan in side the growroom.. Its quite humid and cold in there when only the 200w CFL was on for the new batch. About 13-14 degrees, and humidity between 60 and 95%.
Im a bit afraid of mold so I moved my new ladies to the bigger chamber and gave them the 600w HPS 20/4, and during the 4 hour night they have there is the 500w heater blowing air into the room about 3,5 of those hours... (beein' careful so I wont load the lone with 1100w+ fans and shit..)
And there is a small fan, going 30 min, still 60 on repeat 24/7. Just moving the air around, not really blowing straight on the buds..
The WWxTU coulda need another week.. But... it was quite hard to tell from the topview, and underneath there was so much shit going on. They had really nice topcolas, but quite larfy in the middle of the screen..
The Euforia seemed to be better off all over. Denser nugs, less larf, but she was really giving me some sissor-hasch... like 8 times more then the wwxtu whom reallt didnt leave anything on the blades, nor fingers. Quite strange..
Well; Here is what you wanna see.. Some harvest pics!
And yeah... sorry for the crappy quality. I really need to get myself a new camera...!
The princess!
Those red/purple stems.. Is that Phosphorous Deficiency?
A WWxTU bud... you see how thin and larfy is goes a bit down... where its been in the scrog-jungle!?!
Another WWxTU-nug..
We splitted the harves over 2 evenings cus I had to get up so friggin early the next day. This is the result of 1 euforia (upper container)
and 1 White Widow x The Ultimate, 1 Euforia in the bigger one. (Edit; we kinda lacked in communication and I just handed my finished trimmed bud to my mate that tossed them into thesame box as the WWxTU.
Well, it was quite easy to get most of them sorted out afterwards..)
And the yummi yummi;
tbc... Postlimit reached.. <zzZZzzzzZzZzzzz...>
Femora
Member
Cutdown! 27 Feb. Day 77 12/12
Cutdown! 27 Feb. Day 77 12/12
Ah, I forgot to say.. The three ladies slain the day before had been in darkness for about 36 hours. These two had about 60 hours of darkness.. err..
Ill just continue with those pics I guess...
A bud from the yesterdays Euforia;
Thats left in the box...
A closeup of the left topcola; (btw, is it against any forum rule to have that seed-package in there?? Let me know and I'll remove the pic asap..)
The right... err... jungle?!? hehe...
And some nice sized colas!
I guess there were a few others that would fit in there, but we were to lazy to arrange some pro photo-setup... ZZzzZzzzz....
@Micro-cat; If I hear that grammar-shit some day Ill use your line and laugh a bit.. hehe..
I find it so easy to just ask again if u havn't fully understood.. I acctually feel a bit sorry for ppl that get embarassed when they fail to communicate, and cus of that dont dare to ask again.
@offthehook; Finally we got it all sorted! :>
I will enjoy doing this SideBySide when I flip them! Gonna be interesting to get some numbers from my own experiment.
Have a great weekend! I know for sure I will with this small explosive ball of sissor-hasch.
Stay safe!
Cutdown! 27 Feb. Day 77 12/12
Ah, I forgot to say.. The three ladies slain the day before had been in darkness for about 36 hours. These two had about 60 hours of darkness.. err..
Ill just continue with those pics I guess...
A bud from the yesterdays Euforia;
Thats left in the box...
A closeup of the left topcola; (btw, is it against any forum rule to have that seed-package in there?? Let me know and I'll remove the pic asap..)
The right... err... jungle?!? hehe...
And some nice sized colas!
I guess there were a few others that would fit in there, but we were to lazy to arrange some pro photo-setup... ZZzzZzzzz....
@Micro-cat; If I hear that grammar-shit some day Ill use your line and laugh a bit.. hehe..
I find it so easy to just ask again if u havn't fully understood.. I acctually feel a bit sorry for ppl that get embarassed when they fail to communicate, and cus of that dont dare to ask again.
@offthehook; Finally we got it all sorted! :>
I will enjoy doing this SideBySide when I flip them! Gonna be interesting to get some numbers from my own experiment.
Have a great weekend! I know for sure I will with this small explosive ball of sissor-hasch.
Stay safe!
nice lookin harvy fem. buds look sticky & sweet
im happy to see it!
im happy to see it!
microwavablecat
Member
I think the quality is just fine, congrats on the pull man.
Thanks for posting Bobblehead. Turned out pretty nice for a retarded reveg.
Judging by the two main stems, this pic shows very well that there is absolutely no any main cola at all on such a thing.
Only side bud.
So to Femora this might be an indication of how it could turn out.
Judging by the two main stems, this pic shows very well that there is absolutely no any main cola at all on such a thing.
Only side bud.
So to Femora this might be an indication of how it could turn out.
Yes it still had some one finger leaves... but normal growth had started and there were lots of normal looking shoots. Just keep vegging. When you have normal growth, you can trim the weird growth off and flower the revegged clone.
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Nice job there Femora. Whats the next projekt?
Femora
Member
Im curious how the branches on the 1-finger-sites will develop compared to the others...
My next project is a "total home makeover"...
Ill rip the veg-box down and keep the bloombox as a the new veg.
There will be 2 flowering-rooms. Going Vert-Scrog in both, flipping the 12/12 cycle between them & force the air from the on-box to the offbox all the time. This should keep my temps at 18-25C. (64-77F)
The medium is Coco/perlite 60/40~. About 7 liters/bucket.
Feed will 3-4 times a day, recirculing to a 80-liter bucket.
I plan on measure the rinoff in 2 weeks and probably flush them then.. And then I calculate on having to flush them once more in mid-flower... Well, the rinoff will bring the answer on when I guess..
I havent decided how to set up the scrog yet. Im thinking about going 2 half-moons, 3 plants on each table, and one of the tables will have wheels to be movable.. This would allow me to easily get in there and work..
The screens would be somewhat like "Marlo-style", strapped from behind
Edit; aye.. the scrognet is supposed to be build in the table somehow.. Havent the finished table-setup clear in my head just yet..
Ill have panda-film to restrict the space behind the plants, and maximize the reflection.
Ive bought like all the stuff I need to start off, but I figure my plants are still to small to flower.. so Ill get real next week with the rebuild and probably also flower them.. Nothig dialed in, err.. I guess they grew 75-125% of their size last grow... but its friggin hard to see under that screen.. and especially when I was gone under heaviest stretch and let my mate care for them.
Right now them girls are under a horizontal 600w hps...
My biggest concern atm is how to keep the CO2 up in there.. I guess the best would be some small burner-thingy, but I haven't read shit about it and my RL is more then filled up right now.
I could use a "Buy-this-thing-from-ebay/amazon-incl-shipping-to-Swe" and it should be so easy to setup that its failsafe..
Ill just stick to a small (probably wrong) calculated formula on burning candles whenever I go visit them ladies.. feeding is often about 6 hours into day, if the candles burn for 6 hours it should give about 6 hours feed for the first box, and the other box would probably have boosted co2 all day.. (or.. how fast will they consume eg a 1000 ppm down to 350 again? errr...)
Blackman’s law..... Gotta sort out my life and get to focus more on growing! This rate won't do, nor will it satisfy my growing-needs!
Fem~
My next project is a "total home makeover"...
Ill rip the veg-box down and keep the bloombox as a the new veg.
There will be 2 flowering-rooms. Going Vert-Scrog in both, flipping the 12/12 cycle between them & force the air from the on-box to the offbox all the time. This should keep my temps at 18-25C. (64-77F)
The medium is Coco/perlite 60/40~. About 7 liters/bucket.
Feed will 3-4 times a day, recirculing to a 80-liter bucket.
I plan on measure the rinoff in 2 weeks and probably flush them then.. And then I calculate on having to flush them once more in mid-flower... Well, the rinoff will bring the answer on when I guess..
I havent decided how to set up the scrog yet. Im thinking about going 2 half-moons, 3 plants on each table, and one of the tables will have wheels to be movable.. This would allow me to easily get in there and work..
The screens would be somewhat like "Marlo-style", strapped from behind
Edit; aye.. the scrognet is supposed to be build in the table somehow.. Havent the finished table-setup clear in my head just yet..
Ill have panda-film to restrict the space behind the plants, and maximize the reflection.
Ive bought like all the stuff I need to start off, but I figure my plants are still to small to flower.. so Ill get real next week with the rebuild and probably also flower them.. Nothig dialed in, err.. I guess they grew 75-125% of their size last grow... but its friggin hard to see under that screen.. and especially when I was gone under heaviest stretch and let my mate care for them.
Right now them girls are under a horizontal 600w hps...
My biggest concern atm is how to keep the CO2 up in there.. I guess the best would be some small burner-thingy, but I haven't read shit about it and my RL is more then filled up right now.
I could use a "Buy-this-thing-from-ebay/amazon-incl-shipping-to-Swe" and it should be so easy to setup that its failsafe..
Ill just stick to a small (probably wrong) calculated formula on burning candles whenever I go visit them ladies.. feeding is often about 6 hours into day, if the candles burn for 6 hours it should give about 6 hours feed for the first box, and the other box would probably have boosted co2 all day.. (or.. how fast will they consume eg a 1000 ppm down to 350 again? errr...)
Blackman’s law..... Gotta sort out my life and get to focus more on growing! This rate won't do, nor will it satisfy my growing-needs!
Fem~
expansion time..... nice femora, that's exciting aint it?
