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Feminized seeds go hermie?
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green n dank
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they sure can. any plant can under the right circumstances, but feminized are more prone to turn unfortunately.
Agreed. Checking for hermie flowers should be part of your process regardless of where your genetics came from.
I've had feminized seed(actually S1s from my own garden or bag seeds) throw perfectly normal females that are not particularly sensitive to stress. You aren't going to know what you've got until you grow the seeds.
Happened to me last grow and screwed my grow of C99HY and WW/BB. The weed is still pretty good smoke but seedless would have been better. I have now switched breeders and no longer purchase the lowest priced seeds(Female seeds). I've switched back to Nirvana and Connoiseur breeders, sometimes you get what you pay for. Peace and respect. Week 5 of flowering now and no issues this grow, I'm happy.
any one have exp. w tiresias mist for making fem seeds? specifically growing out seeds made w tiresias and testing in regards to herms.
I'm fixn to make some fem. seeds w tiresias, curiuos about others exp. with it, pretty sure it is just colloidal silver....
I'm fixn to make some fem. seeds w tiresias, curiuos about others exp. with it, pretty sure it is just colloidal silver....
PrimeTimeNugs
New member
Recently, I have started growing some gear from seed, All my grow years so far have consisted of me growing from clone.
All of my close friends say
"1grow the seed till you can cut clones,
2 cut clones, flower first round seeds,
3 keep the clones that were from the female plants, grow the second generation, clone that.
4 then those clones that are the third generations will be strong females that will not hermie
i have been told first rounds from seed tend to hermie, no matter the genetics, i have been told many a first hand experience that seeds went hermie and ruined a room of females while they were looking for a new strain.
but in the end the first rounders that went hermie turned out strong females a few rounds later.
im working on my own first hand seed experience in a good room, im keeping my eyes open and have my 2nd round clones getting ready to be cloned now for the first rounders.
All of my close friends say
"1grow the seed till you can cut clones,
2 cut clones, flower first round seeds,
3 keep the clones that were from the female plants, grow the second generation, clone that.
4 then those clones that are the third generations will be strong females that will not hermie
i have been told first rounds from seed tend to hermie, no matter the genetics, i have been told many a first hand experience that seeds went hermie and ruined a room of females while they were looking for a new strain.
but in the end the first rounders that went hermie turned out strong females a few rounds later.
im working on my own first hand seed experience in a good room, im keeping my eyes open and have my 2nd round clones getting ready to be cloned now for the first rounders.
Oregonism
Active member
It isn't a hermie unless the flower shows both male AND female parts. Plants can reverse their sexual orientation or take on monoecious traits, but true "hermies" are very rare. So a fem seed becoming a "hermaphrodite" is suspect. Read thru the two thread I posted, I had the same misconceptions as well.
Fem seeds have no more problems than regular seeds under most circumstances.
I breed fem seeds and have yet to see a true "hermaphrodite" but I have a few that gained balls in flower, that's just self-fucking, not a hermie.
There are usually 4 survival strategies attached with natural inbreeding of cannabis, besides hermaphrodites.
Is it ever safe to breed with hermies?
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=246229
why is it bad to breed with hermies [it's not in my opinion]
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=247152
Fem seeds have no more problems than regular seeds under most circumstances.
I breed fem seeds and have yet to see a true "hermaphrodite" but I have a few that gained balls in flower, that's just self-fucking, not a hermie.
There are usually 4 survival strategies attached with natural inbreeding of cannabis, besides hermaphrodites.
Is it ever safe to breed with hermies?
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=246229
why is it bad to breed with hermies [it's not in my opinion]
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=247152
any untested plant from seed, whether regular or fem, can be a herm and it is important to look closely at your plants every few days to check for male flowers forming.
personally i have had more herms from regular seeds than fem seeds.
having said that, there is a big difference between buying fem seeds from a reputable company with well selected parents- and growing out seeds you found in your buds because some plant hermed in your grow or someone elses grow
VG
personally i have had more herms from regular seeds than fem seeds.
having said that, there is a big difference between buying fem seeds from a reputable company with well selected parents- and growing out seeds you found in your buds because some plant hermed in your grow or someone elses grow
VG
Oregonism
Active member
Such as?
When they say 'hermie' on this site, most people mean 'any plant appearing to be female that produces fertile pollen'. The mechanism behind the pollen doesnt really matter to us, only the fact that they can produce unwanted seeds.
You may also look into useing STS solution, seems to be the a good method.
Peace
Alien_Dawg
Active member
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DiSCoNUGS
Member
so your saying keep the second gens as Moms? or keep the third gens as moms?
Not sure if I understand PrimeTime's post but cuttings from a plant are not a new generation, they are the same generation as the "mother". They are clones, not offspring.
They are exact replicas so they wont get "stronger" from a genetic standpoint. Environmental factors may give the illusion of variance but its the same genetic material.
Unless I am missing something?
They are exact replicas so they wont get "stronger" from a genetic standpoint. Environmental factors may give the illusion of variance but its the same genetic material.
Unless I am missing something?
Adze
Member
Not missing a thing Ron.
One of the many reasons that feminized seed are made is to get plants, as close to the “original” as possible, so often the pollen source is either a sister plant or reversed from the mother. Progeny from this inbreeding are more likely to have expressions like the parent plant but also recessive traits are more likely to be found. If the parent plant had any tendency to inter-sexed types then you’re likely to see them. It is not a function of the reversal but of inbreeding that you get more “hermies”.
One of the many reasons that feminized seed are made is to get plants, as close to the “original” as possible, so often the pollen source is either a sister plant or reversed from the mother. Progeny from this inbreeding are more likely to have expressions like the parent plant but also recessive traits are more likely to be found. If the parent plant had any tendency to inter-sexed types then you’re likely to see them. It is not a function of the reversal but of inbreeding that you get more “hermies”.
Hey Ron i have ran plants from seed and than ran clones of those seed plants and IMO that if you want a true representation of how good the genetics are u might wanna wait until you have ran the clones first before ditching a strain.
I saw this because in my expierence I have always ran plants from seeds and took clones and always flowered out the plants from seed first.
On my next run of the clones the clones have always showed different traits. My grow 2 grows ago for example I ran blueberry bud from sagamartha and nortern lights blue from delicious. When I ran the seedlings to flower they smelled nothing like there descriptions but when ran from clone blueberry bud actually smelled like blueberry and northern lights blue tasted and smelled like forest berries like they were supposed to.
Now I never saw these representations on the first round from seed. That's why I always saw to people atleast run your clones especially if the seed plants were good the clones usually are better.
Hope you understand what I am saying or have atleast expierenced this before I know I have on a bunch of different occasions that's why any seed I run I'll always run the clone unless I didn't really care for the seed plant.
I saw this because in my expierence I have always ran plants from seeds and took clones and always flowered out the plants from seed first.
On my next run of the clones the clones have always showed different traits. My grow 2 grows ago for example I ran blueberry bud from sagamartha and nortern lights blue from delicious. When I ran the seedlings to flower they smelled nothing like there descriptions but when ran from clone blueberry bud actually smelled like blueberry and northern lights blue tasted and smelled like forest berries like they were supposed to.
Now I never saw these representations on the first round from seed. That's why I always saw to people atleast run your clones especially if the seed plants were good the clones usually are better.
Hope you understand what I am saying or have atleast expierenced this before I know I have on a bunch of different occasions that's why any seed I run I'll always run the clone unless I didn't really care for the seed plant.
My bad mike I tried to + rep you I hit the wrong one
