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Federation Seeds Hawaiian Sativa & HS crosses

need4weed

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Feds HS?
 

Thcvhunter

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ooops sorry, I forget that green mountain has it crossed with mulanje and green generation with spg... but anyway it seems it is not so popular like it used to be...

anyone growing old FHS crosses still?
Im popping a couple FHS, and have a pure BOEL HAWAIIAN popped and a few BOEL Hi crosses. Looking to breed the two Hawaiian lines together. Also have a few Delores vintage Mexi to add into the orgy.
 

MAHA KALA

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Im popping a couple FHS, and have a pure BOEL HAWAIIAN popped and a few BOEL Hi crosses. Looking to breed the two Hawaiian lines together. Also have a few Delores vintage Mexi to add into the orgy.

I think it can be good breeding tool. it is very inbred. properly I would say. I would like to know if somebody found some longer flowering individual in FHS. longer than 12 weeks...

I have never grown any outcross of it. only smoked FHS x Sour Diesel bx... it got that lemon zesty herbal taste typical for some FHS individuals... buzz was really good...

mixing wiht boel hawaiian, some ancient phenos can pop imo
 

MAHA KALA

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I mean a lot of beans of ISS x FHS or Romulan x FHS were sold by Federation seeds... I mean where is it all? who is growing it? wasnt that gear competetive to gear which came after it?

only what we left with is golden goat cut?
 

MAHA KALA

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Few years ago i made repro of FHS,phenos are 12,13,14 weeks,lot of colas on that plant,smell on lemons,still
have few thousends of seeds,at the end of flowering lot of leafes goes yellow.

yeah it is yellowing. thanks for information. 14 weeks pheno sounds interesting. was the effect of longer flowering pheno different to those 12 weekers?
 

bloyd

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I mean a lot of beans of ISS x FHS or Romulan x FHS were sold by Federation seeds... I mean where is it all? who is growing it? wasnt that gear competetive to gear which came after it?

only what we left with is golden goat cut?
I'd be curious what % of seeds sold/traded are actually grown? I imagine that % drops significantly with flower times above 10 weeks. Hoarding seeds into nonviability seems common in the community.

As for fhs I agree it is prime for outcrosses being so uniform yet grow able pure as it doesn't suffer strongly from inbreeding depression. I crossed it to several Hawaiian seedlines and cuts but haven't seen much of the offspring. Stoney spoke high of the sic cross. I plan to pop some and urge others holding to do so as well.
 

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MAHA KALA

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I had 2 mother plants of Hawaiian Sativa that I intensely selected out of 10 packs in 1998......kept them for about 7 years.

The first mother was very spicy with copious hints of cinnamon and a dash of lemon.....Mmmmmmm. Super kind, cerebral and soaring with gentle waves of euphoria.....no body whatsoever, just googley-red eyes.

The second mother was sweet and tangy, citrus, lemonade.....extremely refreshing. Quite a bit more potent than the first mother, but extremely lucid.....you would have to stop and think to yourself, "Did I even get a buzz from that?", crack a smile, "Whew! I Did!". The effects reminded me a lot of DJ's Flo.....this pheno was perfect for "the working man".....very motivational and functional.

I wish these genetics were still available, as I consider them some of the best that were/are commercially available of all time.

Come on people, make lots of seeds, because it would be a shame for this strain to become extinct.

Be good.

I had similar experience with it. soaring yes for some phenos. speedy and working weed yes. some south african in it imo.
 

MAHA KALA

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I'd be curious what % of seeds sold/traded are actually grown? I imagine that % drops significantly with flower times above 10 weeks. Hoarding seeds into nonviability seems common in the community.

As for fhs I agree it is prime for outcrosses being so uniform yet grow able pure as it doesn't suffer strongly from inbreeding depression. I crossed it to several Hawaiian seedlines and cuts but haven't seen much of the offspring. Stoney spoke high of the sic cross. I plan to pop some and urge others holding to do so as well.

I dont know what is sic cross man? how would you rate potency of hawaiian sativa for you? on scale from 0 to 10 where 10 is the most potent. thanks.
 

bloyd

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Sorry can't edit post get weird formatting issues.


I rate hs potency high, 8ish. It had strong up effect but I got a cold stimulant vibe not happy up vibe. I was on medication that ruined me at the time so I intend to revisit to see if my opinions changed.
 

MAHA KALA

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yeah I found one pheno. it was speedy speedy! just like south african... time is running so fast, that you dont have time to enjoy it LOL at least I see it like that. great for working though, as what you do normally for certain amount of time, I mean some manual work, after smoking that pheno you would finish that work in half time with a lot of energy still left...

the best pheno of HS I got was not that lemon zesty herbal stuff, but it was blueberry/lavender menthol cinnamon and it was not speedy at all, but really strong and soaring withou heart beating. really good, but unfortunately it was very low yielder... so I dropped that cut.
 

deepwaterdude

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Cool thread; I haven't tasted the pure HS, but I loved Item #9 from cryptic labs, HS x UK Exodus Cheese cut. Awesome high with great terps. Those are also gone from the market, but I've got my last 4 beans up now. May repro. He's got something called Hawaiian Lights now, HS x NL5. Must be holding a good HS example.
 

deepwaterdude

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Two last Item Number 9s outdoor @7500ft New Mex. It's Cryptic Labs HS x Exo cheese, fantastic terps and smoke, releaased years back and these were bought and stored more than three years back. Took a while to declare sex, pretty delicate structures. I did them inside before and finished them OD, so hope they initiate flower early enough to finish in Oct.

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Should take some clones.jpeg
 

deepwaterdude

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Little update on the two Item #9s above and in general as just smoked the last of it last night from last year.

One turned out lighter green with purple stems, the other darker green and green stems. In New Mexico that's an onvious red chile/green chile plate, Xmas. They're both smelling and looking amazing...

Here's the red spire alone. All yellow tinged things belong to her.

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Here are red and green. Red right Green left, try saying that really fast a few times. I have literally no preference as they are both fattening equally, no real size difference and terps are amazing on both

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Red Chile

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Green Chile

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I found the last bag of shake and some tiny buds, maybe ounce or so, from the two I grew I think last year, so about a year old. My girl got herself wasted off of one hit of leaf while I smoked the half J of tiny buds I had left. It has been a WHILE since my rooms smelled that good from smoke. Bewitching shit, fellas. I hope cryptic redoes this one. I'm definitely taking cuttings from the flowering plants and revegging. Fire shit.
 

deepwaterdude

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Items #9 red and green: These puppies came down Oct 1st - pre harvest pics that afternoon. The green one, topped twice, yielded twice as much as the purp. Great stuff, still drying

Here are the full plants before harvest, nicely yellowed out.

Oct 1st Headbanger x Cakecrasher and Items at harvest.jpeg


Green tops

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Green to pat harvest.jpeg

Drying green tops
Item number 9 green tops dry.jpeg


Purple tops at harvest

Purple tops at harvest.jpeg

Item #9 purp top harvest day.jpeg


Phenomenal terps on both; one more catpiss than the other, but mainly that great tropical cheesy fruit.
 

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