FDA just outlawed CBDs and hemp oil extracts

[Weird]

Lets try this again, pay attention this time:

"In February 2016, FDA issued eight warning letters to firms that market unapproved new drugs that allegedly contain cannabidiol (CBD). FDA had previously issued six such letters in February 2015. FDA has tested these products, and many were found to not contain the levels of CBD they claimed to contain."
http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Public.../ucm484109.htm


the lessons are over on this though; you are on your own now.

over and out!

A) your link is bunk

B) as per the very first post in this thread the latest bout of letters have nothing to do with claimed CBD levels

Do you understand how to read?

here one more time since its so tough for you to grasp

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Similar to a year ago, when the Food & Drug Administration (FDA) issued warning letters to six companies, the FDA issued several warning letters to marketers of products with cannabidiol (CBD):

• ABC Productions
• Dose of Nature
• Green Garden Gold
• HealthyHempOil.com
• Michigan Herbal Remedies
• MorgueJuice.com
• PainBomb
• Sana Te Oils

The letters are all fairly similar and criticize health claims made by the company as supplements. Unless the product was marketed before GW Pharma (NASDAQ: GWPH) published clinical trials, the companies can’t make health claims:
FDA has concluded that CBD products are excluded from the dietary supplement definition under section 201(ff)(3)(B)(ii) of the Act [21 U.S.C. § 321(ff)(3)(B)(ii)]. Under that provision, if a substance (such as CBD) has been authorized for investigation as a new drug for which substantial clinical investigations have been instituted and for which the existence of such investigations has been made public, then products containing that substance are outside the definition of a dietary supplement. There is an exception if the substance was “marketed as” a dietary supplement or a conventional food before the new drug investigations were authorized; however, based on available evidence, FDA has concluded that this is not the case for CBD.

Note that this is a very broad attack on the CBD-from-hemp industry and includes products from CannaVest (OTC: CANV) as well as other companies like Endoca and Bluebird Botanicals. [/FONT]

Which is bullshit since it has been used prior to med trials for use against said ailments

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]How Vitamins are Regulated

Vitamin products are regulated by FDA as "Dietary Supplements." The law defines dietary supplements, in part, as products taken by mouth that contain a "dietary ingredient" intended to supplement the diet.

Listed in the "dietary ingredient" category are not only vitamins, but minerals, botanicals products, amino acids, and substances such as enzymes, microbial probiotics, and metabolites. Dietary supplements can also be extracts or concentrates, and may be found in many forms. The Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 requires that all such products be labeled as dietary supplements.

In June 2007, FDA established dietary supplement "current Good Manufacturing Practice" (cGMP) regulations requiring that manufacturers evaluate their products through testing identity, purity, strength, and composition.[/FONT]

I guess you didn't bother to read the articles from Leafy and the statement form Cannaventure that collaborate the interpretation

Keep fighting the good fight against CBDs

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]GW Pharma is quickly becoming the world leader in FDA-approved cannabis medicine while American companies are effectively shut out of the game by their own government. Here’s the kicker: While two federal agencies (the Justice Department and the Department of Health and Human Services) actively prevent Americans from developing cannabis medicine, another agency (the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office) is helping GW Pharma lock up the intellectual property rights to a broad swath of cannabis-derived medicines and techniques. [/FONT]

I hope you got stock, at least it would make sense you have a genuine vested interest in the American FDA

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Is[/FONT]

 

[bombadil.360]

A) your link is bunk

B) as per the very first post in this thread the latest bout of letters have nothing to do with claimed CBD levels

Do you understand how to read?

here one more time since its so tough for you to grasp




Which is bullshit since it has been used prior to med trials for use against said ailments




I guess you didn't bother to read the articles from Leafy and the statement form Cannaventure that collaborate the interpretation

Keep fighting the good fight against CBDs



I hope you got stock, at least it would make sense you have a genuine vested interest in the American FDA

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Is[/FONT]

link works perfectly:

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/PublicHealthFocus/ucm484109.htm

why you wanna say it doesn't is very, well, weird, no pun intended lol...

well, the fact is that anyone can still buy CBD extracts, and the FDA can only outlaw products that label it as dietary supplements or when said extracts contain no CBD or not enough.

If you want to keep making crazy accusations, go ahead.

please abstain from editing the links I provide when you quote me to claim they don't work btw...

this time I'm really out for real hehehe...

 

[Weird]

http://www.theeventchronicle.com/news/north-america/fda-just-outlawed-cbds-hemp-oil/#

The FDA just outlawed CBDs and hemp oil extracts by claiming all plant molecules now belong exclusively to Big Pharma

Guess everyone but you knows how to read bro

Everyone is reading the same information from the same FDA website

google cache old versions of the site to see when it was updated

 

[Weird]

link works perfectly:

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/PublicHealthFocus/ucm484109.htm

why you wanna say it doesn't is very, well, weird, no pun intended lol...

well, the fact is that anyone can still buy CBD extracts, and the FDA can only outlaw products that label it as dietary supplements or when said extracts contain no CBD or not enough.

If you want to keep making crazy accusations, go ahead.

please abstain from editing the links I provide when you quote me to claim they don't work btw...

this time I'm really out for real hehehe...

Thanks so much for this because this time the links worked and you proved my point

They weren't called out for lack of CBDs but because and I quote

Based on the product label it appears you may intend to market your “CBDy CBD Drops Unflavored Hemp Oil Supplement Cannabidiol Tincture” product as a dietary supplement. You should be aware that, based on available evidence, FDA has concluded that CBD products are excluded from the dietary supplement definition under section 201(ff)(3)(B)(ii) of the Act [21 U.S.C. § 321(ff)(3)(B)(ii)].

FDA BANNED the use of CBDs as dietary supplement as I have maintained all along

that was from the very first letter, but dig deeper.

I hope your taking me somewhere nice on our date

 

[Weird]

so tell me why its cool to restrict CBDs in light of their anti-cancer properties alone?

 

[ChinggisKhaan]

OK so I thought the only way to legally sell CBD was as a dietary supplement. How will it be legally sold now?

 

[rasputin]

The correlating information on the FDA's website seemed to run parallel to his claims.

I never read just news article but the source information that it references and then ancillary research for differing perspectives.

I hear you, and the initial article (naturalnews) seemed to describe the situation in terms that were not in step with the reality of the situation exactly. However, based on the additional information that point now seems moot because there is something going on here that is apparently beyond the FDA simply taking down companies selling snake oil. That's just a convenient or perhaps coincidental cover for the bigger picture unfolding.

CBD isn't being outlawed but use of it as a dietary supplement seems to be. Which is an important distinction though one could argue that avoiding labeling CBD products as dietary supplements skirts this entire issue. But that doesn't really solve the problem, it just side steps it. I see your main point, though. CBD being something other than a dietary supplement subjects it to a different set of regulatory standards which means access, not to mention production, becomes an entirely different game. Not like that hasn't already been the case with prohibition but given that things are changing regarding legality, this type of stuff would suggest nothing is changing at all.

https://www.newcannabisventures.com/breaking-fda-cbd-warning-letters/

https://www.newcannabisventures.com...to-fda-warnings-issued-to-8-marketers-of-cbd/

unlike last year these warnings are based on dietary supplement qualification, for which they claim there is none

That's the interesting wrinkle here. That specific language is a pharmaceutical lobbyist's wet dream.

In reality, the FDA only made it illegal to sell CBD oils when labeled as a "dietary supplement."

The DEA doesn't however have jurisdiction over CBD products derived from the hemp plant after HIA v. DEA... http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-9th-circuit/1253723.html

So through my research you are perfectly capable of buying CBD infused products as long the CBD is derived from hemp, comes from an overseas source, and the seller of the product doesn't use the anecdotal research to market the products as a "dietary supplement."

Doesn't that sound ridiculous, though? It shouldn't be a semantic debate, but rather a scientific one. Plant origin is only used as a distinction because of prohibition. CBD is CBD. But the federal gov't can't allow CBD from cannabis when it doesn't allow cannabis. It's a catch-22, not sound or rational law. Jumping through the logical hoops necessary to explain what FDA is doing actually illustrates how illogical it all is. I wonder if irony is GRAS?

FDA going after shitty companies selling "CBD" products that don't contain any CBD isn't the problem. I think we can all agree on that much, yes? But it appears there is more to this situation than just slapping a couple snake oil salesman on the wrist. Which makes it a bit curious. I wish FDA was as concerned about sugar and the scores of "healthy products" marked as such that have more sugar per serving than a candy bar or ice cream.

 

[clips]

found a possible road bump in FDA's plan from a previous case or two ..

On October 9, 2001, the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) posted an interpretive rule on its website declaring that all hemp seed products containing any traces of THC would be considered seizable contraband, effectively criminalizing all hemp seed products in the US.[3] After a period of public comment, the DEA filed the final proposed rule in the federal register on March 21, 2003. One week later, the HIA joined with the Organic Consumers Association and several companies which used hemp seed in one or more products to file suit against the DEA rule going into effect.

On February 6, 2004, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled unanimously for the HIA, opining that the DEA did not have the authority under the federal Controlled Substances Act to ban an otherwise legal product because it might have traces of THC. On September 28, 2004, the Supreme Court of the United States declined to hear the appeal, allowing the Ninth Circuit decision to stand.
[ edit just noticed post before mine noted this case above ]
2nd bump is FDA power is mostly derived under the commerce clause ..

In the 1990s, the Court acted to restrain Congress's exercise of its power to regulate commerce. In United States v. Lopez, the Court found that Congress could not exercise "Police power" reserved to the States by use of the Commerce Clause.

It is the position of the HIA that legal hemp products containing CBD were marketed as foods and dietary supplements long before cannabidiol formulations were submitted to the FDA for testing as a ‘new drug.’ As such, CBD products are exempt from laws that preclude CBDs from product status as dietary supplements pending ‘new drug’ approval by the FDA. Though none of the companies in receipt of these warning letters are current or former HIA members, the HIA urges these CBD product manufacturers to revise their product labeling and marketing such that no medical claims are made.

Unlike FDA approved pharmaceutical drugs, which are new compounds developed and patented by drug companies and go through rigorous clinical trials before reaching the market, and can only be administered with a prescription; cannabidiol is a botanically derived, floral extract that exists organically in nature. The Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 explicitly defines ‘supplements’ as an extract of a botanical. As such, the HIA maintains that CBD products are indeed supplements, and that attempts by the FDA, or other agencies, to discourage lawful manufacturing and marketing of these products demonstrates unjust bias toward the hemp industry.

To read the HIA’s joint statement regarding best practices for labeling and manufacturing of medicinal cannabis and hemp products, please visit: http://thehia.org/HIAhemppressreleases/3236544

 

[stoned-trout]

so gw is gonna take control of the cbd market huh.....well good thing I don't smoke that hemp....yeehaw..some people only see what they want ...

 

[Brother Bear]

http://www.naturalnews.com/053369_cbd_hemp_oil_extract_fda_regulations.html

 

[bombadil.360]

http://www.naturalnews.com/053369_cbd_hemp_oil_extract_fda_regulations.html

What a surprise, even that nutjob at naturalnews backed tracked his own claim...I wonder why could it be due to the fact that no outlawing of CBD ever took place?

Or maybe the alien reptilian illuminati made him do it? LOL

 

[Jericho Mile]

What a surprise, even that nutjob at naturalnews backed tracked his own claim...I wonder why could it be due to the fact that no outlawing of CBD ever took place?

Or maybe the alien reptilian illuminati made him do it? LOL

People hear what they want to hear. Justifying paranoia is a stoner past time.