Familiy planning, I have questions.

[GreenDawn]

Whats with Papa Plants? Cant we just time it!?

Is it possible Or manageable, to keep Male 'Mother"plants for a decade or less in veg mode, to
createt mate cuttlings for breeding. (cuddles).
In the moment I have 2x2 regs running and two fems, and i do not know which of the regs is male.
As i have not flipped.
I usually use pollination after harvest of the sensemillia. ( let the lowest part of the plants allive.)
So, If I had a male plant, id like to use it for pollination.
But, as sativa flowers fo(u)r month, timing is crucial.
How do i find out the sex without premature parenthood?
My plan would be: keeping them all as mothers and papas and then make cuttlings.
With postnatal abortion procedure PAP for the male plants. (Kückenschredder)

 

[GreenDawn]

An alternative to spreading pollen with male plants would be cutting of the future of the netherlands and send them back to vegative state, right!?
Does that work? How long does it usually take to flower male plants from "the flip"?
Does it actually work to reveg blooming male plants!?

 

[dogzter]

I nave kept males via successive cuttings for years.
It is a bit of a hastle and sometimes the preflowers will dump some pollen in veg but certainly doable.

 

[GreenDawn]

I nave kept males via successive cuttings for years.
It is a bit of a hastle and sometimes the preflowers will dump some pollen in veg but certainly doable.

Cool.Thanks.
Did you keep them under extra veg light or did you just prune 'the balls ?

 

[dogzter]

Cool.Thanks.
Did you keep them under extra veg light or did you just prune 'the balls ?

I just kept them under 400 hps 24\7 in a seperate area plucking preflowers would be a full time job once they get some size.

 

[GreenDawn]

Hm. I only got some experience with autos, but saying that: they were hard taking.
So, my approach would be rather keeping them small. Like a bonsai.
They wont simply not reach unmanageable sizes. I simply do not have unmanageable space enough.
So,its me, or him. And its not him, thats for sure. Hes there for One Job. Like the bulls on the cattle.
And its not that we need two bulls.

 

[acespicoli]

#252

Flower Power:​

Floral reversion as a viable alternative to nodal micropropagation​

in Cannabis sativa​

Now published in In Vitro Cellular & Developmental Biology - Plant doi: 10.1007/s11627-021-10181-5

Floral Reversion based micropropagation of Day-Neutral Cannabis sativa L​

Darya Sadat Tabatabaei, Rambod Abiri, A.M.P. Jones
doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/2024.09.19.613882

 

[dogzter]

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#252

Flower Power:​

Floral reversion as a viable alternative to nodal micropropagation​

in Cannabis sativa​

Now published in In Vitro Cellular & Developmental Biology - Plant doi: 10.1007/s11627-021-10181-5

Floral Reversion based micropropagation of Day-Neutral Cannabis sativa L​

Darya Sadat Tabatabaei, Rambod Abiri, A.M.P. Jones
doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/2024.09.19.613882

Did you read that cuz damn.........just take a cut off a cannabis plant ffs.

Hemp and pgrs rooting a nodal calyx......wtf.

 

[GreenDawn]

Floral reversion of autos is hard. one can actually make cutlings in the very early stage of autos.
Thats it. however, the rusults are not promissing at all.
Taking the florrets and using the micropropagation approach might be a way to propagate - female autoflowers- and maybe set back the flowertimer that autos have.
And as inþersting the possibilities of synthetic biology and pgs and shit:
its actually OT..
I think its a legit approach, if one is im autoflowers. Somehow. And it is not. Id prefer selfhermied self propagation to artificial propagation techs.
But thats all off topic.
Female plants - as in autos usually-
do not have male plants genes.
So, Thanks, but sorry.

 

[GreenDawn]

Did you read that cuz damn.........just take a cut off a cannabis plant ffs.

Hemp and pgrs rooting a nodal calyx......wtf.

Check "plants in jars" to enlight yourself to the science of "tissue culture" on youtube.
Its absolutely legit to play on lab level with (plant) hormones, IF you know, what you are doing.
So, for most I consider a big NO/ You do not know, what you are doing. Sorry guys, learn it and come back.

And yes, its interesting, that the florrets can be used to clone, but no. This thread is about conventional family planning. All we can do in conventional fa.p. is turning on and of the lights, separating plants,
wait, prune, wait. anf maybe gently stroke of some prescious pollen. <3

 

[GreenDawn]

Its about the Papas, stupid. <3

 

[xtsho]

You can definitely reveg males just as you can female plants. I've done it a few times.

 

[GreenDawn]

btw... i doubT that synthetic biology would be really superiour to parent plants for long term storage, as
parent plats, in my scale, might find a nice place on the windowboard.

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And all they need would be love, warer and light. And i heared about mother plants at least, being happy vegs for a decade.
And tissue and agar... demands lab controlled conditions that not everybody could provide
on that level.
Though its fascinating, I totally admit.
fuckin perfs.
höhö.

 

[GreenDawn]

You can definitely reveg males just as you can female plants. I've done it a few times.

Thats what I needed to know. The documentation specifies usually on female plants. Thanks for the confirmation.
Then I can flip them, all together.
After repotting, now.(then, the now, after repotting).
And i do not have to kill them all.
And. "Its" genetics are easier traceable.

 

[Wolverine97]

Check "plants in jars" to enlight yourself to the science of "tissue culture" on youtube.
Its absolutely legit to play on lab level with (plant) hormones, IF you know, what you are doing.
So, for most I consider a big NO/ You do not know, what you are doing. Sorry guys, learn it and come back.

And yes, its interesting, that the florrets can be used to clone, but no. This thread is about conventional family planning. All we can do in conventional fa.p. is turning on and of the lights, separating plants,
wait, prune, wait. anf maybe gently stroke of some prescious pollen. <3

If I were you, I would not endeavor to "educate" people who have been on here for years. Especially given that you are here asking very elementary questions (nothing wrong with that, btw). We are all well aware of how tissue culture works, along with most other things related to cannabis. For a lot of us here, growing and propagating this plant has been a significant portion of our lives.

 

[LndRcLvr]

I was hoping for a conversation on prophylactics!

 

[acespicoli]

I was hoping for a conversation on prophylactics!

presex test USD $15 per plant, micro isolating plants in plastic produce similar effects

 

[GreenDawn]

I was hoping for a conversation on prophylactics!

A plastic bag would do. Wouldnt it!?
A transparent one maybe. Such as one uses for roasting meat, that comes in a tube form already
and is transparent (some oven heat with lamps, somits heat resistant and not a source of fire!? Compared to an ordinary pvc plastic bag. ventilations would be amproboem though.
thats what imthought about it. problem is: plants transpiration. they need freshnair to exchange water and nutritients.

icewarer, maybee?!

 

[GreenDawn]

presex test USD $15 per plant, micro isolating plants in plastic produce similar effects

'isolating male plants bring similiar effects. put em in the shoeboard. or drop it at the sports pitch.
i bet it will solve up in smoke. win win win. and harmless and youth friendly too.

 

[acespicoli]

poster board and hvac tape see that working ?