Fall Grow - Design Stage

[bdlt]

Disclosure: I am not crazy. Well maybe a little bit. I am a disabled veteran with extreme pain from an injury suffered in service to the United States of America. I am apolitical when it comes to war, all I want is to grow great medicine for myself so that I do not have to use the Methadone / Vicodin Cocktail that the VA would rather I use. I will remain within compliance of Proposition 215 at all times.


I am attaching diagrams of my proposed room. Please look at them closely and provide constructive feedback. I need your help.

Thank you in advance,

~bdlt (Broke Dick Lieutenant)










That all being said I'm going to stick with what I know.

Operations Order Incomming: Prepare to Copy

1. Situation:
a. Enemy Forces: LEO and Rippers.
1) Situation: Given my suburban neighborhood every precaution for noise, light, litter, and smell will be taken.
Noise: Silent Operating fans will be acquired and used in an efficient manner. Vibration and noise dampening material will be used around all devices that require dampening.
Light: IR blocking material will be utilized in construction. I will construct a room within a room to minimize any light escaping.
Litter: I will only use dumpsters outside of a twenty mile radius from my home. I will handle all dumped material with gloves.
Smell: I will utilize my double room setup to scrub all air thoroughly. Air within the flowering room will be scrubbed continuously while air that is evacuated (into the outside room) after cooling the lights will be scrubbed as well.
2) Capabilities: LEO and Rippers must be assumed to have noses.
LEO: Have the ability to subpoena computer records, tap phones, intercept emails, and legally search homes with proper warrants. Should a showdown with LEO occur: I will be within my legal limit with my doctors reccommendation and suporting documentation clearly posted at the entrance to my garden. The most effective defense against LEO is strict compliance.
Rippers: Have the ability to bring violence into my home. The only effective defenses against rippers are anonymity, security, and secrecy.

b. Friendly Forces: This post (posted via anonymizer.com) will be the only record of my grow. I am assigning a Clearance of "Top Secret: Self" to this operation. To further safeguard my grow I will be performing all construction, purchases, care, and processing. My medicine will not be sold, traded, or bartered. This is a one man operation.

2. Mission: To grow enough HIGH QUALITY Medication to meet my needs. Given one man, his capabilities, limitations, predilections, and preferences, a place to grow, time, money, knowledge, and a little bit of luck.

3. Execution:
a. Concept of the Operation: A tandem garage measuring rougly 14x12 will be subdivided into eight separate flowering chambers. Each chamber will have a 3x3 ebb and flow setup with exactly four plants. Each chamber will be outfitted with a screen for SCROG growing.

/////Military Off - I will complete my operation order when I have enough feedback and have properly planned my room accounting for all variables.

 

[hoosierdaddy]

Sir,
At some point you are going to want your warm scrubbed air to be exhausted to outside. I would not re-introduce the scrubbed air back to the room. It sort of defeats the purpose of scrubbing it, both with heat and Co2 content. Scrub it, and then immediately exhaust it, letting your fresh air charge take it's place.

Also, if your fresh cold air is simply ambient air, and not cooled with an AC of some sort, you will find a cooler supply of air down low.

I want to wish you the best of luck in your mission. It looks like you are bound and determined to accomplish the task at hand.
And thanks very much for your service to our fine nation.

 

[Daemon]

^^Exactly what he said, with an emphasis on thank you.

 

[FullMetalJacket]

Why the multiple flower chambers? I would think this would make lighting, ventalation, and care difficult and the entire production less space effecient...

And if you truely only plan to grow for personal use, You dont need 32 plants or anything close to that. LEO will still charge you for cultivation w/ 32 plants in flower even if you have a MMC/prescription. Lighting 8 3x3 areas wont be cheap. Even if you go w/400s and minimal AC.

If you do decide to go this large, i think a closed system would be more stealth and better rewarding. A closed system includes CO2, AC, dehumidifier, humidifier, heater etc to meet keep your enviroment dialed in instead of using exhauset cycles to accomplish all this. So less exhaust = less smell and noise.

Your images look great. I would sit down and read alot to determine what size you will need. I mean you can pull 10 oz easy from a 3x3 closet every 60 days. I can't imagine one person smoking that much or even half that..lol.

The link in my sig should be able to yield me 10oz every 60 and it is 2ft L x 6ft W x7ft H. And has a mother chamber and veg chamber. If i had your space i would definitely go bigger for conveinice but not a double garage..lol.

Best of luck let us know how we can help...

 

[bdlt]

Everyone thank you for your kind words and encouragement. Currently I go through quite a bit of medicine in a 30 day period. My previous grow (different location) I actually had the police come inspect my garden. My reccomendation is good for up to 50 plants so the law is the least of my worries. Right now i think the 4 chambers i have planned will meet my needs. I am designing the space to accomodate twice that if it doesn't. I intend to harvest (roughly) every two weeks. I intend to run 400's over the 3x3 tray. Part of the reason I want 4 different chambers is I want to manipulate photo periods and feeding regimens so that I can really dial in this strain. Guess that's the mad scientist part of me.

~bdlt

 

[saintgr8one]

keep us updated!

 

[bdlt]

Hey all:

Update!

I decided that I am too lazy to do 4 separate grows and to keep them going. I decided to simplify my room a bit. I am attaching new pictures.

Please give me some feedback RE: my idea for utilizing my CO2 burner and isolating the CO2 from the Heat.



The main idea being that CO2 is heavier than air. So the heat will rise and passively exhaust into the crawl space while the CO2 will fall out the bottom of the box to be diffused into the room.

Floor plan for perspective:






Let me know what ya think.

~bdlt

 

[hoosierdaddy]

IMHO, and that is what you are asking for yes?, I think that you may want to work on your basic design a bit more before introducing the gadgets and amenities.
The most important things we have to consider are medium, lighting, and atmosphere.
The room with the high dollar stuff that is not working efficiently, is not worth near as much as the simplest of rooms that is working fine and pumping out good bud.

I like making the little things work, and then maybe I consider adding onto my grow to increase the yield, make life easier, etc...

With specifics, I would ask why you want to spend all the time, materials, and wasted space, to enclose things. Take the scrubber for example. Why not have it just in the room? Hang it from the ceiling and duct it out.

As for burners...they create heat that must be delt with. And at an added expense.
I realize that in optimum conditions you can see an increase in yield with Co2, but only the most efficient rooms, with the best air flow scenarios and controls, are going to get best bang for buck. They probably aren't going to be using burners either. More likely controlled tanks and sensing equipment. All very expensive and labor intense.
For my money, I would rather spend my hard earned on more lighting/area.
I say file 13 the burner, but that's just me, sir.

I love working on projects, as I am a tinkers son.
Throw some specifics on us, and I am sure you will get more help.
These wire frames you show...are these rooms, or a large box you are building? Are things to scale here? Show your airflow runs...electrical connections, etc..
Do you have your equipment already, and if so, whats your lineup?

Not sure what your level of experience with drawing programs are, but I can tell you that many of them are so slow and convoluted it's hard for a layman to work fast with them. One can spend more time figuring out the friggen drawing program than anything. I only add this because I am completely familiar with the things.
I am very proficient with different systems and I self start a design on screen, but it often times helps to have everything you want on paper first. Best to use graph paper and do it to scale...always to scale. Not doing a drawing to exact scale is wasting valuable time and effort. Especially with computer programs that have the ability to show you what will work and what wont real fast. But not unless everything is to scale.

Perseverance, sir!

 

[yamaha_1fan]

I am with everyone else, thank you very much for your service.

I am also with HossierDaddy. I think the design is over complicated.

All this heat rises etc isnt going to work in a bigger room IMO. Grow rooms need plenty of air circulation and all that air is going to get mixed up.

Vent the lights if you can to get rid of most of the heat. Then mount a scrubber to the ceiling with a fan and exhaust air out of the room. You'll also need a passive intake somewhere else.

KISS