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Source: Daily Sentinel, The (Grand Junction, CO)
Author: Paul Shockley


FAKE CHECKPOINT NETS 3 REAL-LIFE I-70 POT SUSPECTS

Local law enforcement used a ruse - flashing-light road signs and all - - in the recent arrest of three suspected drug traffickers on Interstate 70.

For their troubles, officers got a 5-pound bag of marijuana.

Alfonso Joe Ceja, 32, of Florence, Calif., along with Paul Pacheco, 25, and Maryann Lepianka, 21, both of Oshkosh, Wis., were jailed Sept. 26 on a variety of drug-related charges as a result of tactics which likely turned heads of all passing motorists.

Drivers headed east on I-70 around noon Sept. 26 near the Colorado-Utah line may have seen a message scrawling from two electronic signs: "Drug Check Point ahead ... be prepared to stop," according to an arrest affidavit.

The signs were a ruse. While federal and state courts have held that drug checkpoints violate Fourth Amendment protections, they're lawful as long as they're fake. Representatives of the Western Colorado Drug Task Force declined to be interviewed about the practice, but insiders insist it isn't a new tactic for Mesa County law enforcement.

"They're legal as long as law enforcement has an objectively reasonable basis for the stop when they actually make the stop," said Mesa County Chief Deputy District Attorney Dan Rubinstein.

On Sept. 26, one Task Force officer was watching a stretch of I-70 near Rabbit Valley, when one car pulled to the shoulder and stopped, according to the affidavit.

The car had stopped near the bogus checkpoint signs, the affidavit noted.

A man was observed getting out of the passenger side of the vehicle and retrieving what appeared to be a black plastic bag from the trunk.

"Officer advised she witnessed the male passenger take the bag, run across the Interstate and hide it in a bush in the median of the Interstate," the affidavit said.

As one officer followed the car when it returned to the road, a second officer recovered what was stashed in the bushes: a 5-pound trash bag of marijuana.

Ceja and Pacheco denied having any drugs in the car, which officers observed reeked of marijuana, the affidavit said. Lepianka said she slept through the episode but thought Pacheco had earlier needed to get into the trunk to get his cellphone charger.
 
While federal and state courts have held that drug checkpoints violate Fourth Amendment protections, they're lawful as long as they're fake. Representatives of the Western Colorado Drug Task Force declined to be interviewed about the practice, but insiders insist it isn't a new tactic for Mesa County law enforcement.

Uh.. What the fuck? They're a violation of rights if there is an actual check point, but if it's just a trap to catch people without the actual check point that's legal? What the fuck kind of logic is that?
 

MIway

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They did that here too, up north somewhere near the border. They'd hit the people that pulled off the road or tried to turn around, but no real drug checkpoint. Made the news.
 
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You would figure that the actual drug trafficers would know that and the only people that would fall for this would be small time
They probably usually sit out there and catch college kids with an 1/8th.
Oh well, if it makes them feel like theyre doing something.
 
Fake checkpoints, you say?

I moved to Georgia from CA, was driving back to Athens from Atlanta after some vietnamese food and billiards and see a sign on the road saying "Drug Detection Checkpoint Ahead"

Fuck.

On a highway? No freaking way. Thing is, its Georgia and I don't know better so the quarter ounce of shit mexican weed I have is looking like even a worse deal than I thought.

Smooth criminal that I am, I think that I can put the bag near the window and air pressure will suck it out and I'm free and clear. Whew...good thing I got all A's in college physics.

I put the bag near the window, and it fucking blows all over the inside of the car.

Nice job, genius.

I realized then there was no way they could stop all the traffic on that road and were just pulling over people who pulled off on the exit right after the sign.

Moron.

Drove another ten minutes, pulled over and rolled everything I could salvage into a bomber and smoked the whole thing.

Laughed about it later...have to admit, they got me to act the clown.
 

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Uh.. What the fuck? They're a violation of rights if there is an actual check point, but if it's just a trap to catch people without the actual check point that's legal? What the fuck kind of logic is that?

Here is the logic. This is America you can't just grab and search people randomly on the highway. But you can put up a sign that says drug checkpoint and watch for retartds doing stupid sh it like hiding weed in the bushes. There is no right to not get lied to in the constitution.
 

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How are DUI checkpoints legal if drug checkpoints are not?

I think because you contract with the DMV, agreeing not to drive drunk, when you accept a drivers license.

That would be the same thing as with any drug though.

At least from what I read locally, they have to publicize the sobriety hecks ahead of time and must pull over everyone that passes through. So it's on public property out in the open, people know about it, and it is equally applied to all. That's the gist I got at least.

Even still, it doesn't seem reasonable to me... I don't like sobriety points either, nor border checks like they have in California... Even if they pull over everyone equally... It's still a fishing trip. I fail to see the probable cause.
 

PoopyTeaBags

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I never agreed to any such thing.


your drivers license is actually a contract by signing your name on to it you agree to follow every and all laws associtated with that contract which are tons lol...

only way to really get around it is to sign your name a certain way which declares that they must read to you EVERY part of the contract for you to be liable..... if you do this you can argue in court and get shit thrown out...
 

GMT

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I know its off topic sorry, but why don't the use breathalizers in the states? Those sobriety tests are a joke. I watch them on usa cop shows here, seems like an excuse to try to humiliate people rather than a way to tell if they are over the limit.
 

supermanlives

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i have seen em before. my game is tight and i laugh at your silly signs. if i ever see one and aint carrying i am gonna turn around and try an look guilty.
 

Littleleaf

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Man I was so PISSED when I seen the sign and I ate a big fat J of some killer skunk. Kept driving and no check point. From then on I would keep driving and not worry.

BUT coming soon in the good old USA. There will be check points to check your papers. Run by the military.
 

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we already have checkpoints for id. boarder patrol stations that aint near the boarders. i go through one all the time heading to hemet. they stopped me and a buddy a few years back . seems our ride was riding low. we were both stoned as hell. when the opened the trunk they were shocked . filled with bags of soil . ha ha ha no bust here fellas . can we go now
 

mowood3479

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I know its off topic sorry, but why don't the use breathalizers in the states? Those sobriety tests are a joke. I watch them on usa cop shows here, seems like an excuse to try to humiliate people rather than a way to tell if they are over the limit.

they are a joke... they use the roadside tests to give them probable cause to have you take a breathlyzer... anytime a cop suspects ive been drinking i just say give me the breathlyzer...and if i was drunk. id refuse the roadside tests and the breathlyzer.. i have almost no viens.. so they will have a haaarrddd time pulling my blood...
 

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