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The Tri Guy
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one side of this arguement says when I see evidence I will change my mind, the other side says no matter what I see or hear, my mind is made up, who's mind is really closed?
 

HairlessCaveApe

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one side of this arguement says when I see evidence I will change my mind, the other side says no matter what I see or hear, my mind is made up, who's mind is really closed?

Well see it aint really like that. Its more like one side sayin the evidence they been shown aint good enoughf for them even tho THEY PERSONALY cant disprove it. and An other side sayin, BECAUSE of what we see, we believe. :abduct: I chalenge ANYBODY HERE to create their own fake ufo video and make it believible. Ya know what I meen? A real good one. Somethin that couldnt be exposed as a fraud. Lets see how easy it is. If yer gonna do it please make another thread for your joke ones. I think I mitta just ruined this thread by sugestin this but its really not my intent. I just wanna see everybody here whos sayin that these things are hokey ass camera trik shitt show us how these hokey ass triks are made. :abduct: This whole ass diskushin is backwords. Caqn anybody prove that we NEVER been visited by ET's? I dont fukkin think so. Then when ya show these same people proof that YOU did, they call ya a lier. -Or a fool. Lets just put that crazy on the other foot. :laughing::laughing::yoinks::laughing::laughing:
 
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manwithnoname

i wonder how similar et life would be if it was similarly advanced as we are. it would be crazy to see something from another planet. i dont believe that there are aliens visiting us, but i could be wrong. humans tend to believe what they can sense with one of their 5 senses. sometimes the unseen is hard to believe.
 

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The Tri Guy
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Can the christian priests disprove all of the various gods of the hindu faith? can you? do you believe in them? can the hindu leaders disprove the christian god? do you believe in that god? If you cant disprove it, you must believe in it right?
 
Ever hear of abiogenesis? Theory that states life arises naturally from nonliving matter. Especially where putrefaction is present; for example Aristotle believed mice came from rotting hay and maggots came from rotting meat. Nobody had ever seen a fly egg before the microscope was invented so people automatically assumed that meat produced the maggots.

It's a case of "because what we see, we believe" like HairlessCaveApe said and I think it's happening here.

I don't know what I'm seeing in these videos MarquisBlack posted. The second one is pretty amazing. But it's not enough to make me think there are aliens here and now; it looks like jumping to conclusions to me. What aliens? This footage makes me think more than anything else of the floaters that sometimes show in my eyes! No I'm not going to try explaining this away by camera malfunction or meteorite activity but to slap a label of 'aliens' on something I do not understand is intellectually dishonest.

Of course I can't prove it's NOT aliens but that's a stupid argument. I can't prove there's not an invisible giant octopus sitting under the polar ice cap and remotely controlling President Obama by broadcast brain waves either but I'm not going to try convincing you it's there and its name is Nancy.
 

MarquisBlack

St. Elsewhere
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those videos look remarkably like the ones in CCs photo here
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=2057043&postcount=13


oh yeah and out of interest youtube proves the existence of the loch ness monster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvqeH-z3HVI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Q-IwUijoc&feature=related

I repeat, the distinction must be made between proof and evidence. You guys are oversimplifying a bit. And don't say I'm oversimplifying by jumping to the conclusion that these anomalies are little Grey aliens, I never said anything like that. Hell, in the post with the Youtube video links, I didn't even use the phrase 'UFO' nor did I use 'Alien'.

I did, however, suggest that these documented bits of NASA footage do serve as EVIDENCE that there is 'something else' out there.

Think what you want, that's your right. But it seems to me you guys are a little aggressive toward the notion.

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." ~Albert Einstein
 
I did, however, suggest that these documented bits of NASA footage do serve as EVIDENCE that there is 'something else' out there.
Okay that I can definitely agree with. There is a lot of mystery left in the world. I just feel somewhat hesitant in equating floating lights with aliens...
 

nycdfan042

Its COOL to DROOL!!!!!!
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What about the sighting over southern illinios around 2000-2001, this object was seen by several people, four of whom were police officers on duty in four seperate counties. These officers gave very detailed bone chilling accounts of what they saw with police radio recordings of the participating officers and some freaked out dispatchers. This has to be the most believable sighting i can really thing of with reputable witnesses, usually when i tell this story to non believers they still dont beleive me even after they read the story themself. How can four different policemen in four different counties be mistaken, crazy, or just plain wrong? they all were freaked out and they all say it was a UFO. You can read for yourself but to me its plain as day either it was a government craft, or it was a fucking alien craft of some sort. I dont know why they are here, i dont know where they came from and i dont really care all im saying is if were betting on "are there or arent there aliens" my money is on ALIENS guys.

heres the link : http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/illinoissighting.htm

^^ i just googled " Southern Illinois ufo sighting " so im not familiar with the web site nor do i frequent ANY ufo web sites, but i read that story and it appears to be the same story i saw on the History channels " UFO Hunters" show i initially saw it on

heres some links from wiki, ufo sightings archived :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFO_sightings
 

swampdank

Pull my finger
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I think as public acceptance increases. They will present themselves. I bet they just want to make sure the rednecks dont open fire on them. They might have to do something spectacular. Save a child or something to show they mean no harm. Once they do that, I think they will become a huge influence in our lives as they once were with ancient cultures.
 
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manwithnoname

I think as public acceptance increases. They will present themselves. I bet they just want to make sure the rednecks dont open fire on them. They might have to do something spectacular. Save a child or something to show they mean no harm. Once they do that, I think they will become a huge influence in our lives as they once were with ancient cultures.

or they will mercilessly kill us all and take our planet.

ok, ok... kill is a little harsh. mercilessly enslave!
 

Widow Maker

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tonight i was sitting on a bench with my buddy, i was literally in outer space if you know what i mean.. totally isolated, just disconnected from each other while we both shared our unique experiences and man.... i was really focusing on my third eye jsut meditating and focusing hard on it and all of the sudden i had a strange experience visually... i saw 3 small individual pulsating colorfull and tiny... 1 came before the next about 15 minutes apart?.. I had a very odd sense of consciousness where words had no purpose... anyway, the first light i saw.... i focused really hard on it, it changed from blue to red quite often also maybe green. the next fifteen a 2nd appeared.. seemingly from the distance to be 4 inches apart from the first, which remained lit. closer inspection for a brief moment i saw they were only house lights, but to be literal, why would they change color and appear in a way that when i focused on one, then the next, i felt like i was expanding a rubber band in my mind/perception/sight, all my thoughts were so spread out time stood still. This happened a third time and at this time i was for some reason seeing it and imagining it as living chakras in horizontal form, i kept thinking i had to light the 4th at that spot but to my dismay i did not know how. The first three felt as if once one was "lit", ill now say, i was intrigued by it so much i became one with it.....

Either that or theres 3 lights on a house with 3 timers 15 minutes apart haha... but the color.. and wisdom I had at these moments? pretty righteous.

we realized it had been 40 minutes and got up. we both kinda nodded at each other seeming to be happy with whatever we did and walked back up the hill.


oh aliens? I really hope so, there is a lot of knowledge out there and in terms of dimensions? I believe they are infinite and anything, literally anything is possible. We are all HERE, at THIS moment in time, this one, this one,.... for a reason, who the fuck knows why but i wish "they" or whatever we think collectively......we all feel it.... about speculations, really convincing stories etc ..... would really open up to us and share truths to us with actual proof for ourselves. for now im using what i KNOW to be true in that sense and to try and help myself grow spiritually, to me its like levels in an RPG haha, i always loved the analogy. Every once in a seemingly great time, could be long, could be short, we all experience odd revelations about life, the universe, everything, and use that new perspective as their new "self". Except you must try to imagine there are infinite levels possible and grow (i mean personally, but of course also the plant we all love) to do what you come to realize is the only right thing you gotta do. ready? go

ok peace all. grow on

~WM
 

THC123

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Well let's hope that if they exist , and if they come, that they will waste/kill all our politicians and put in a new system
 
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sparkjumper

You don't want it to happen.Its no mystery what happens when living things deal with other living things that arent as advanced.Subjugation is about the best you can ask for.
 

ROJO145

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LOL.....still,hot topic huh!!
Al Gore said yesterday that we never went to the moon,it was all filmed in a nevada set?
I would like to know how these aliens deal with the Van Allen radiation belt,its been giving me a hard time lately getting thru it and all.So many questions for them.:moon:

LOL....Does anyone have a CLEAR photo??Why are we only allowed to film these creatures and there craft with 35 yr old Brownies???
 

nycdfan042

Its COOL to DROOL!!!!!!
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^^ brownies? wtf are you talkin about rojo? no offense but 98% of the time i have a hard time understanding you
 

ROJO145

Active member
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The Brownie was Kodaks origional camera,took shitty grainy picsa,like all the ones alien hunters post.My point is there all blurry,grainy,did ya see that pictures.No clarity for 2009,when we all own mega pixels.
98% of the time I am targeting a different audiance than you bro,the ones who understand me!!!!!!!!!!!!:moon:
 
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sparkjumper

I'm surprised Algore didn't say he invented Nevada the fucking idiot.Did he really say that?He couldn't have really said that
 

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