Ever grown in Native soil?

[HellaFella420]

Can't think of anyone I have known that ever grew in native soil. Everything up here is container gardens, raised beds, or holes that have been dug out and refilled with potting soil. I have the opportunity to grow in native soil in legit, active, well-drained, and irrigated riverside farmland. Anyone with experiences in such a situation that is willing to share their knowledge with me??

 

[stoned-trout]

I had a mexi seed grow on its own in my yard...does that count???...it got big and was healthy and my yard is clay hardass soil...yeehaw..I have done guerilla into native soil a few times..plants weren't as impressive as their counterparts in amended soil...what you get out of it directly connects to what ya put into it...

 

[theJointedOne]

Most native soil big ag ops are fertigated.

Would work with weed fine.

Just picture the soil as the medium,..you test it, see what it needs, and supply via fertigation.

 

[BAKED_BEANZ]

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[BReal]

This is my example of native soil. I mixed it with some perlit, dolomit to stabilize ph and used some chicken guano for nutrient but it doesn't really matter so much because soil was looking quite good. 100% guerilla babe ^^

 

[HellaFella420]

This is not fallow soil. It is currently an active Organic Vegetable farm that is looking to convert into marijuana production now that the laws are finally changing. It has like 20 years worth of active use, yearly OM and compost additions, with yearly soil tests and necessary amendments.

I'm fairy intrigued about growing in the actual earth. If his fruits and veggies are as amazing as he says, there is no reason some fertigated marijuana shouldn't be any less!

 

[theJointedOne]

In that case you could prob just plant straight up and be fine

But tests will help to make happier, fwiw

 

[stoned-trout]

if its organic don't fuck it up and add a bunch of nasty chems...yeehaw..organic certification takes a while and the soil should be alive and kicking...

 

[HellaFella420]

Yeah, that's been my only concern Mr. Trout. I never used any "nasty chems" to begin with. Just salt-based nutes really, But knowing I'm going to have to deviate from my tried-and-true regimens for the sake of this fellas certification. the land is no longer going to be used for farming, we're switching to marijuana completely it seems. Their plan wasn't even requiring Organic cultivation, I just know internally what certification requires, and it would be a shame to ruin that. I don't think marijuana can even BE certified currently, but when it can be it would be a shame to have reverted and have to requalify

 

[J.V]

Nothing wrong with good fertile native soil......Give it a go.

As a guerrilla grower, I plant in the native soil all the time...That's how I like to test a strain... To see what works for my area and conditions.

Considering this is a legit grow, I guess your aiming at large plants...
This is something I have no real experience with.....I plant in numbers to make up for yield.... Good Luck

 

[blastfrompast]

test the soil....amend as needed...add fert as needed depending on how long your growing for...ie ur vegtime....

I have never had any luck with Set and forget style growth, either plants run out of N, or lack enough P to make it worth the time.....

But if you can monitor....boy oh boy ur gonna have some fun.

 

[HellaFella420]

Nothing wrong with good fertile native soil......Give it a go.

As a guerrilla grower, I plant in the native soil all the time...That's how I like to test a strain... To see what works for my area and conditions.

Considering this is a legit grow, I guess your aiming at large plants...
This is something I have no real experience with.....I plant in numbers to make up for yield.... Good Luck

Yes and no. Plant count is no longer a limiting factor!! The only constraints are Flowering canopy limits. So not interested in giant hard to manage bushes, a butt-load of man sized plants I think will be mo betta

 

[J.V]

Yes and no. Plant count is no longer a limiting factor!! The only constraints are Flowering canopy limits. So not interested in giant hard to manage bushes, a butt-load of man sized plants I think will be mo betta

Sounds good.... I can't see you having a problem...Providing you know what strains will grow well in your area....You should do well.

In 2014 there was a thread Called Ceps outdoor odyssey, I'm sure he was growing in native soil and was very particular in regard to testing his soil and basically everything else regarding his grow....

He's not a member anymore, but if you do a search you should find his thread 20 odd pages back...It's worth a look.

 

[HellaFella420]

test the soil....amend as needed...add fert as needed depending on how long your growing for...ie ur vegtime....

I have never had any luck with Set and forget style growth, either plants run out of N, or lack enough P to make it worth the time.....

But if you can monitor....boy oh boy ur gonna have some fun.

Oh yes. This winters soil tests are already completed. Amendments happen annually, the fella working the land currently is 100% on it. Has his own soil company and manufactures bulk soil in a different business. This will be a very well managed and fertigated endeavor. No guerrilla, no set and forget. If you are looking for a grow show, stay tuned. We are seriously talking 1000's of lbs

 

[HellaFella420]

Sounds good.... I can't see you having a problem...Providing you know what strains will grow well in your area....You should do well.

In 2014 there was a thread Called Ceps outdoor odyssey, I'm sure he was growing in native soil and was very particular in regard to testing his soil and basically everything else regarding his grow....

He's not a member anymore, but if you do a search you should find his thread 20 odd pages back...It's worth a look.

Damn.... lots of info, but all the pictures are gone since he deleted! :''''(

 

[budsnblunts]

I've been planting in native soil for a long time now and never had no problems, just a little slow release ferts here and there to give them the added boost.

 

[Bradley_Danks]

I love growing in native soil. A few of my gardens outdoor were in native soil last year. They were all organic from amendments based on soil lab test results. The native soil in my area just needs some ag lime to up the pH and some all purpose organic blend for fertilizer, minerals and microbes as a general recommendation. If the soil is compacted a till makes a huge difference in growth speed. I grew at the bottom of a seasonally dry river bed once and the soil was so loose the plants grew like they were in premium potting soil. Here are a couple shots.

Organic native soil buds:

Native soil tree

 

[budsnblunts]

They look wicked man, does it cost much to have a soil test done? And how does one go about that process?

 

[Bradley_Danks]

They look wicked man, does it cost much to have a soil test done? And how does one go about that process?

Thanks. Soil tests at the lab I use are only about $40. That's at a&l western. I see most folks use Logan labs on here though. Send in a soil sample and they email you the results.

On another note, I tried to grow in some native with a partner last year and the field mice and gophers ate us alive there. The funny thing is at a very similar location I had no problems. The only difference was a water source, a creek, was on the property.

Anyone have any techniques to fight the field mice and gophers? I can't catch them all since the neighbor won't trap them and they always come back. The field mice chew the stalks all the way through. Was thinking about getting some feral cats to catch the mice and a dog to dig up the gophers.

 

[budsnblunts]

Thanks for that man, I've found that all it takes is a water source nearby to attract wildlife of all forms, good and bad. I use dog hair, and let my dogs piss around my patches in the bush, we have pigs, possums and deer as a big problem here. The odd rabbit to. But this year have gone untouched. A feral pack of cats would do the job and reproduce like mother fuckers no doubt to hahahahaha. Big pack of cats to protect some plants hahaha