Entrance and exit

[hamstring]

Hello guerrillas

I was just in a spot today and when I got in it was heaven. So many swamp willows and so much acreage of land.

I saw beaver sign everywhere. I was exploring for 4 hrs never resting always seeing new land and opportunities. WOW it was awesome.

Many great spots with southern exposure beaver sign was heavy everywhere.

You swamp/marsh grower know the deal beaver sign is a blessing. Farmers hate beavers they kill them because they create damns flooding crop land. Heavy beaver sign means no people !!!!!!

I found some great spots with southern exposure with limited beaver sign ( no chewing of your plants) I was in love for 4 hrs of hiking and exploring.

I was on Google earth for two weeks and fell in love with this spot. The only problem was entrance/exit. I had taken a vacation day at work to make this possible. I drove 30 minutes and biked in 5 miles to get there . I even had to turn around once in the middle of the road road to drop off my camo gear. Man I hate looking like tourist. It sticks out.

It was murder because of course a swamp/marsh is in bottom land and the road leading to this was at the bottom of large hill on both sides leaving me vulnerable to view on both sides. I had to drop off my camo gear a 100 yards from a house thank god they were at work. Not to mention the fact two farms on the top of the surrounding hills had views of me from a 1/2 -3/4 mile away.

This spot was a sure thing if you could get in securely .

Would you pick this spot?

 

[tech1234]

I planted in a heavy beaver area last year and was worried but didn't have any problems. The dam was about 50' away. I have heard of people having problems but I did not...

 

[hamstring]

tech1234
hey thanks for the reply. I am worried about the beavers but security has me more worried.

I'm really thinking of letting this go because the two most important factors in plot consideration (for me) are the entrance/exit into the grow area vs the plot itself.

 

[stoned-trout]

if there is also muskrats they will wipe out your crop....yeehaw,,,been there done that..i like beaver ponds theres usually some good fishing...

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

if it was me i wouldnt use this spot Hamstring. i get to nervous when im exposed like that especially when u start carrying the plants in. will they still be able to see u when the trees bloom out?

 

[hamstring]

kygiacomo

Good to hear from you brother. I am struggling with this decision and its good to hear from someone who understands my problem.

The site I had picked out got burned this year. In my area they burn grasslands every couple of years. Not sure I want to use it now because all the cover is now gone making security next to impossible.

This second spot is great in many ways but not the entrance/exit into it. First off no where to park has to be a 5 mile bike ride. I have no problems with this but I have to be able to drop off planting materials to be able to grow.

Their are fields all around spotted with a few farms along the road. So there is zero cover until mid June when the field crops are planted and a few feet tall. Even if I bike in I am visible from a farm on top of a hill and there is a house next to the only entrance with any cover.

Once early in my grow career I was entering off my bike into a grow area and after exiting the area and on my bike an older lady pulled up next to me in her car and asked why I was on her property. She had spotted me from her farm house 3/4 mile away.

I am considering a nighttime entrance but worried what a cop seeing an old man riding a bike at 2:00am with a backpack on is doing. I am racking my brain for a way into this spot but have not come up with a reasonable plan.

Normally I would be the guy jumping on this thread screaming for the poster to, "bail on this spot!!!!". Security trumps quality of spot every time.

 

[gorilla ganja]

Normally I would be the guy jumping on this thread screaming for the poster to bail on this spot. Security trumps quality of spot every time.

Follow your gut. Only you can answer this question.

Is there a back entrance to this spot??
The area sounds great, but I think the "entrance/exit" is tops in my books as far as security.
Try and find a nice bridge to "fish" at then walk the shore and find a spot you can break off to.
Best of luck finding a spot.

Peace GG

 

[The Revolution]

I'm in the same situation as u. Found a killer secluded swamp/forest area. After scouting it thoroughly on foot I noticed a hunting stand on the upper part of the property. It's dilapidated and didn't seem to have been used lately but hard to say. On the lower end is a gravel pit w no to little activity, but did see some foot prints. I'm interested in planting the swamp, with smart pots. I may have to settle with just a few in the lower part of the swamp where its thicker w brush and all of the ground water and creeks in the lower area create these little islands. May have to just drop a dozen or two clones in there. Keep looking man, from the sounds of it u have a good spot but if you can't enter and exit without being spotted it doesn't sound safe. Keep looking. Try to leave yourself w choices of several spots and never put all of your eggs in one basket. Good luck on your hunt for the perfect spot and your field of dreams. Wish you a great season and a bountiful crop.

 

[hamstring]

Follow your gut. Only you can answer this question.

Is there a back entrance to this spot??
The area sounds great, but I think the "entrance/exit" is tops in my books as far as security.
Try and find a nice bridge to "fish" at then walk the shore and find a spot you can break off to.
Best of luck finding a spot.

Peace GG

Hey GG thanks for the reply and the "follow your gut" part.

I think there may be a back way in. This is a long finger of marsh and swamp. I followed it at least a mile back and saw a small group of homes off in the distance maybe a small subdivision. I didnt like this section of the swamp because of the tree stands I saw. They were positioned to catch deer coming off the farmers fields. I will look into this to see if I can use it as an entrance who knows it may work.

I have only once had a problem sharing growing areas with hunters. Usually we can coexist we each other. I never see them and they never see me.

 

[hamstring]

I'm in the same situation as u. Found a killer secluded swamp/forest area. After scouting it thoroughly on foot I noticed a hunting stand on the upper part of the property. It's dilapidated and didn't seem to have been used lately but hard to say. On the lower end is a gravel pit w no to little activity, but did see some foot prints. I'm interested in planting the swamp, with smart pots. I may have to settle with just a few in the lower part of the swamp where its thicker w brush and all of the ground water and creeks in the lower area create these little islands. May have to just drop a dozen or two clones in there. Keep looking man, from the sounds of it u have a good spot but if you can't enter and exit without being spotted it doesn't sound safe. Keep looking. Try to leave yourself w choices of several spots and never put all of your eggs in one basket. Good luck on your hunt for the perfect spot and your field of dreams. Wish you a great season and a bountiful crop.

Sounds like you have a good spot and smart pots are the way to go. I like to cut holes in the bottom so the roots can exit and get water.

Thanks for the advice and well wishes. I hope you have a good season also. I love IC mag for bouncing ideas off other guerrillas.

 

[bd0t]

Whats your plan for hauling the rest of your gear in? Time release fertilzers, your own soil mix, etc.. For me thats the hardest part of the guerrilla season.

 

[_tessarecting]

Yo hamstring, roots grow thru smartpots, no cutting needed

 

[Aye smokey]

If I have any doubt I am out. I don't want to waste time and money with questionable area's.

Good luck what ever you decide to do.

I am wondering the benefits of smart pots? I've only went straight to dirt never used smart pots. I like stealth so I wonder about bringing more into the area. What are the benefits of smart pot compared to going into the earth? I realize at a swamp or marsh area water is an issue.

 

[hamstring]

Whats your plan for hauling the rest of your gear in? Time release fertilzers, your own soil mix, etc.. For me thats the hardest part of the guerrilla season.

bd0t

I agree 100% that and harvest is always the poop your pants time.

I'm using time release ferts and at this spot native soil. The edges of swamps and marshes usually have black gold just waiting on your shovel.

 

[hamstring]

If I have any doubt I am out. I don't want to waste time and money with questionable area's.

Good luck what ever you decide to do.

I am wondering the benefits of smart pots? I've only went straight to dirt never used smart pots. I like stealth so I wonder about bringing more into the area. What are the benefits of smart pot compared to going into the earth? I realize at a swamp or marsh area water is an issue.

If you can grow straight in the ground do it no questions.

The thing with a marsh is the soil is too wet for MJ so smart pots and store bought soil work well. Also not many people are in the bug ridden world of the swamp or marsh and usually no large trees to block light.

So many different micro environments when it comes to swamps. Some are too wet for smart pots so you need swamp tubes. Others have a combo of marsh and swamp. Thats smart pot time.

Others have grasslands on the edges where you can plant straight in the ground.

It took me years to consider swamp growing but two heads changed my thinking. It worth exploration.

 

[hamstring]

Yo hamstring, roots grow thru smartpots, no cutting needed

I have heard that but they call them self pruning so I was always hesitant to try them without the holes.

 

[Aye smokey]

Hamstring thanks for the info.

I have a swamp area near me I may have to take a hike around and really look at the area. At least 1\3 of the swamp has huge cattails.

My only concern would be mosquitos....

 

[Obsidian]

you answered your own question.

drop it, move on...

 

[green-genes77]

My rule of thumb, before my state went legal, was to respond to misgivings like these by turning away and not looking back. I always found a good place for my plants and invariably kept myself out of trouble too.

 

[Crusader Rabbit]

Had good success in a heavy beaver zone burying a 12" deep sheet metal border around a plot enclosed in chicken wire. I'd be really concerned about commuting in an open valley with houses above. There's always some curious body with binoculars who will recognize you after a few trips and get really interested. You wouldn't have a clue that someone had learned your routine.

Deer hunters are out there at harvest time...

Smart Pots aren't self pruning when there's moist soil on both sides of the fabric.