EM1 - effective microbial....anyone use it?

[jaykush]

Next we will all be using power amulets to channel our plant essences.

you mean you dont already do that? fuck...

 

[ripman]

Ahah, by the way they have amulets as well, but they are to "enhance your magnetic field", I don't know if they work on plants as well
To me the ceramics might be not as bad as you say... Ok, it sounds science fiction to me as well, but the pipes are not too pricey, if I buy and see calcar goes away or water TDS decreases, they might be a good buy... at least until you don't discover that maybe normal ceramics works as well and you are paying 10 times the price for that!
I would like to understand though if EM-plus can be actived and drunk... I've understood you can do it with EM-farming, they basically don't promote that aspect as they would have to apply for that in Europe, but they say as well that in other countries people have drunk it for 20 years and no critical effect has yet shown up.
I really don't know whether maybe I could just buy the normal version, the EM-plus is rated as more effective in other fields, but not in farming... Microbeman said though that PNSBs are the shit, any suggestion?

 

[ThaiPhoon]

Hey, I haven't tried drinking the EM yet.

Also the PDF on that website actually has the recipe for AYE in it!

 

[maryjohn]

Regular em is fine to drink but they can't talk about it or the FDA standards must be met.

I saw an interesting recipe for a salad dressing made with em.

 

[river rat01]

here's where to get SCD EM PLUS...http://www.midlandprobiotics.com/product_p/a152-1.htm

i havent tried it ..yet.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

river rat01

SCD also has a product called 'Bio-Ag' which they sell for $29.99 for 1 gallon which is a bit less than buying 1 quart.

HTH

CC

 

[habeeb]

WTF does "structuring water". Mean? Just a bunch of random unscientific crap. I almost fell off my chair reading about it.

Next we will all be using power amulets to channel our plant essences.

hey, anything is possible, I suggest reading the secret life of plants and you might start thinking a little different, well an easier way is to puff on a joint also..

anything is possible, and I think that way from many things, but take rudolf steiner and his ideas..

the power of intention has proven me powerful and unbelievable. check this, I once wrote when I was going through a full ride scholarship program, we had to write what we would want for the future, I wrote to the extent, " everywhere I go, if I see something I like, I'll have the money to buy it " well six years later and that came true... my GF wanted to do reiki once and said I don't believe in that shit, well I went to prove her wrong and when it was done it felt like someone knocked me out, and this person was just running there hands over my body not touching me as I thought it was pressure points... well all I can say it was crazy shit and to tell people to give it a try, and then judge it

my brother once said, how does that secret thingy work, I said, hell I don't know, just think something and it will be that way, so he said, I don't believe in it, and I said back, well you got what you wanted..

keep an open mind and I think it will take humans further then the shit hole were in now. what's wrong with giving it a try, I guess if you try then you can say for sure if it works or not.


now back on topic, doesn't microbeman drink this stuff? and who's the next guinea pig, I want to give it to my dog, but with it's severe allergies I'm not wanting to rush the dog to the doctor saying" I use this shit on my plants and it works, and I heard it would help humans and dogs so I gave it to her....... " man would the doctor be having a laugh





here's from that EM-1 page on drinking it :

"I have learned from correspondents in Japan that there are "EM shops" in many towns and cities, and the main reason they exist is not just to sell folks EM for household use (flowers, gardens toilets, plants, waste, compost, shower stalls) or for use in building construction (concrete, plaster, wood, etc.) or for agricultural use (remember, Japan is a very crowded country -- most folks and EM shop customers live in cities), but rather, they sell the stuff (EM1, EM Ceramic powder, EM Ceramic shapes) for human consumption!

As noted above, the practice of drinking EM Extension and related beverages seems quite common in the USA (although officially discouraged by the EM organization here in the USA) and in Japan, and folks in Japan are actually given guidelines on how to do this by their local EM shops. Folks who drink this stuff seem to feel that it yields any of several healthful effects, and view it as a "health beverage", loaded with antioxidants and other vital nutrients.

A lot of the folks in Japan (mentioned above) -- following recipes given them by the EM shops -- brew their EM Extension in 2 liter soda/water bottles (those clear PET bottles) with some added salt (actually, quite a bit of salt -- 1 teaspoon per 2 liters, far more than I use here....), and then brew it in sunlight, as opposed to brewing in the dark (the way we usually do it in the USA). Some of these folks brew new bottles of EM Extension constantly, some with bottles on literally every windowsill in their home.... and drink it almost like water, as a "health drink". The local EM shops apparently give them full directions for doing this, and also share favorite recipes.... One thing my correspondent told me which fascinated me was this: "

 

[LoKey]

didnt read the whole thread, but one of the prime ingredients lactobacillus is present in decent amounts when say making sourmash whiskey, what do you think makes the mash sour

so composting some of the dredges, say the spent grain/corn your using that floats to the top when doing sour mashes for distillation, would provide a pretty decent amount of lactobacillus.


Just have to be making sourmash whiskeys for it to be worth while to do, or really interested in producing your own beneficial bacteria.

 

[river rat01]

hey coot,
i saw the bio ag, but i dont see what the difference is between it and the EM.
do you think that both products are nessasary?

 

[Clackamas Coot]

hey coot,
i saw the bio ag, but i dont see what the difference is between it and the EM.
do you think that both products are nessasary?

Absolutely NOT!

The only reason that I posted the deal about EM's Bio-Ag is that it's a good value. I use this product weekly (religiously) on all of my plants, i.e. veg and flower cycles.

It works as well as it's advertised. One of the few products that can make that claim.

You'll do well with either product. If you opt for the product you mentioned then you might want to look at making 'AEM' (Activated EM) which will lessen the financial deal - big time.

HTH

CC

 

[habeeb]

It works as well as it's advertised. One of the few products that can make that claim.

CC

isn't that sad now a days, that people are more interested in money then serving someone a good product, worthy of the price tag.

as I was copying microbeman's words in another chat, I know it made my "soil" squishy and seem bouncy after using it, like it was a pillow and not a hard clump.. not sure what's going on down there but something is happening, and the plants seem happy

 

[maryjohn]

I know this is a gardening forum but...

I do put it in my dog water, and it seems to help with dog breath.

Does anyone else get tonsil stones, I am seriously thinking about gargling with em to combat them, and maybe even injecting it into my tonsil crypts. If I get he courage I will report back.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

Head over to EMAmerica.com and check out the myriad of applications for their products including pets, livestock, human health, etc.

Pretty amazing, IMHO

CC

 

[BongRipkenJR.]

EM1 is a great product! I spray it on my outdoor as a folier spray. I also put a quarter of the recommended dosage in with my nutrient mixture(Botanicare Pureblend Pro Soil Organics and flora nectar with a little Superthrive, oh and the sub culture M). I have noticed the Lacto Bacillus works well with the mychoriza. The em1 works well on controlling powdery mildew as well as. I drink kombucha teas which are high in bacillus content and it makes me feel great! Over all it is a wonderful product and will make any plant perform better!

 

[HinduKushed_423]

DIY EM

DIY EM

have any of you seen this ?

Quick EM: Mix sauerkraut juice, sourdough slurry tea, kvass and kefir whey. Add water, sugar syrup and malt extract. Add a pinch of clay, DE and/or pickling lime. Cover with cloth and put on a warm, sunny windowsill for a week.

For a more complex recipe, read below. This first recipe includes only known safe micro-organisms from your kitchen. See below for recipes using microbes harvested from the soil.
Step #1
In a clear glass jar, combine the following:

1 cup (8 ounces) of warm tea made from the leaves of an assortment of edible tall trees (such as oak, maple, hawthorn, sassafras, chestnut.) (Tall trees will have roots that reach down lower in the soil to bring up trace minerals lacking in depleted surface soil. Do not use leaves from trees whose leaves are regularly harvested for their leaves rather than falling on the ground below the tree, such as tea trees)

60 mls/4 tablespoons sugar syrup
15 mls/1 tablespoon barley malt extract
5 mls/1 teaspoon molasses
15 mls/1 tablespoon of raw honey
juice of a wedge of lemon
1 tablespoon of raw milk clabber whey
1 tablespoon of kefir whey (source of lactic acid bacteria)
1 tablespoon of sauerkraut juice
1 tablespoon of kvass
1 tablespoon of sourdough tea
contents of a capsule of red yeast rice
1 teaspoon of unpasteurized miso with aspergillus oryzae

Cover with an airlock of clear or translucent plastic (saran wrap or plastic baggies, for example, but do not use biodegradable plastic.) secured tightly with a rubber band and set in a warm, sunny window sill. Keep it for 7 days after fermentation begins. Stir or shake occasionally if mold forms on top.

Step #2
After it has fermented for 7 days, drain the tea off the sediment. In a clear glass jar mix:
cup (8 ounces) of EM tea
1 cup of tea made from assorted trees and plants (walk around the garden tea)
6 tablespoons powdered oatmeal
2 tablespoon of sugar syrup or honey (Molasses can be added up to 1% of the total.)
2 papaya tablets (or chunk of mashed papaya)
juice of a wedge of lemon

Elective Ingredients (these ingredients are food for the microbes and are not required each one by themselves but a good portion of them or similar substitutes should be included)
1 teaspoon of bone meal powder (or can be taken from bone broth which has been made from soup bones from a local pastured animal that has been simmering long enough so that it can be crushed with the fingers)
1/2 teaspooon finely ground DE (diatomaceous earth) or fine sand.
1/2 teaspoon French green clay (or 1/2 teaspoon volcanic ash or other colloidal minerals)
1/2 teaspoon kelp (or dulse powder)
1/2 teaspoon Himalayan crystal salt (or full-array sea salt)
1/2 teaspoon crushed linseed (or chia seed)
1/2 teaspoon powdered turmeric
1/4 teaspoon spirulina (the contents of 2 capsules)
2 tablespoons of apple juice (or fruit juice or extract)

Cover with a clear plastic airlock. (Do not use biodegradable plastic.) Leave on a sunny window sill. Stir once a day for the next 3 days and then leave it to ferment anaerobically for another 4 days.

After it has fermented for another 7 days (for 14 days in total), skim off any scum that may be on top and strain through a knit cotton cloth, or use a plastic siphon to draw out the liquid and leave the sediment behind. Store the liquid in a glass jar in the fridge, covered but not airtight. (Put the sediment onto the compost, or use it to start bokashi.)

The strained liquid can then be used for any of your regular ferments, to make an EM beverage or can be added to pasteurized food or milk to restore the vital enzymes that have been lost. It can also be drunk as is 1 or 2 ounces at a time after meals to improve digestion.

Even though some of the bacterial colonies will be gone because some of the microbes will eat the lower order microbes and take their place, the enzymes will be retained by each succeeding colony of microbes. It is the enzymes, as much as the microbes, that are necessary for digestion and good health.

To make an EM beverage (EM#3), mix
(Put a stick of cinnamon, a nutmeg and a vanilla bean in the bottom of a ceramic tea pot for extra flavor, if desired, or use the spices or flavorings of your choice. Cinnamon, nutmeg and vanilla bean can be left in the pot and re-used for as long as they still add some flavor to the tea).
Fill the teapot up with mixed tall tree leaves and plants and herbs from your garden
Add 800 mls of boiling water and let steep overnight
In the morning, drain off the tea through a knit cotton filter
Add 50 mls of EM#2 and 150 mls of sugar syrup
Pour into a liter wine bottle and cover with a plastic cork, or pour into clean plastic soda pop bottles and cover with a twist-on plastic cap. Store in a cool dark place and drink within a few days.
If carbonation is desired, use the plastic soda pop bottle and drink it when the bottle has become firm to the touch and cannot be squeezed.

Other Things To Feed Your EM

1 apple
1 beetroot
1 mashed banana
1 tomato
1 grated carrot
1 Tablespoon of brown rice
1 Tablespoon of whole grain wheat or spelt
1 Tablespoon of powdered oatmeal or oat bran
1 ounce of malt extract
Peel food if not organic, otherwise peel can be left on. A little organic dirt is OK. Chop apple and beetroot. Mash banana and tomato. Grate carrot.
Why We Culture Enzymes

When we eat, enzymes in the saliva in the mouth increase in order to begin to break down (digest) the food. We are born with the ability to make thousands of enzymes, but many people are unable to activate them because they do not have enough of the trace elements needed to complete the enzymes. Trace minerals give enzymes longevity, giving each cell the electromagnetic charge they should have.

In the stomach, food is mostly broken down by hydrochloric acid, and then it goes to be digested in the intestines by enzymes and the microbes that live in our intestines.

If we do not have the necessary enzymes to break down and digest a particular food, the undigested materials will be absorbed through the gut as is, and accumulate in our system leading to weight gain, inflammation, stagnation, digestive distress and general fatigue. These symptoms may be called or diagnosed as leaky gut, food allergies or intolerances, GERD or acid reflux disease, but they are all different manisfestation of indigestion -- the inability to digest food properly due to lack of sufficient enzymes.

Other digestive disorders such as Crohn’s disease, ulcerative colitis, diverticulitis, celiac disease, IBS and candida are probably not solely caused by simple indigestion and probably have other complex associated causes, but increasing enzymes and microbes and improving digestion would undoubtedly help them.

Raw foods contain enzymes so they will naturally deplete less of our enzyme stores. Fermented foods contain even more enzymes and they can replenish or build up our supply of enzymes.
Enzymes represent vitality. Eating cooked foods drain the body of enzymes and vitality. Enzymes can be purchased as supplements, but would be very difficult to manufacture and/or extract at home. Microbes, on the other hand, are easy to grow and they will create the enzymes for you.

What Is EM?

EM means "Efficient Microbes". It refers to the beneficial micro-organisms that culture and ferment our food and are symbiotic with us in our gastro-intestinal tract. If you make yogurt, wine, kefir, kombucha or kvass you are using some of these microbes already. These microbes come from and live in the soil, so they are also called "soil-based organisms".

Some microbes can harm humans. To ensure there are no pathogens in your EM beverage, you have to either
(1) Use only microbes that have been used as food, from your kitchen, such as those mentioned above,
(2) buy micro-organisms from a trusted source that guarantees that they are safe or
(3) get a microscope and other lab equipment and test them yourself. Instructions or information about each option are given below.

Making An EM Beverage With Purple Non-Sulphur Bacteria (PNSB)

To make EM, you have to include a bacteria called PNSB, which stands for "purple non-sulphur bacteria". Currently, there is no pnsb used as food, so you either have to (1) eliminate it, (2) buy it from a safe source or (3) culture and test it yourself. The instructions at the top of the page make an EM beverage with the pnsb eliminated, because there is no easy way to make one in your kitchen. Instructions or information about buying or making a pnsb culture yourself and testing it yourself are given below.




Chemport of South Korea makes PNSB (click here). As of this page being written, there did not appear to be any way to purchase this product . However, it is possible it is used as an unidentified ingredient in other products.





Pet stores in the UK carry a product called Aquarium Treatment Filter Start. They don't say exactly what ingredients are in the box, but it does say it is "cultures of selected bacteria". It may well be pnsb, as filtering aquariums is something pnsb does well.

WHERE TO FIND PRIMARY-SOURCE PURPLE NON-SULPHUR BACTERIA: anaerobic mud in ponds and lakes where there is access to sunlight; surface water from streams, bogs and transient puddles and rain, snow, icicles and hailstones.High concentrations have even been found in the water in carnivorous plants.

Commercial EM

http://www.tpr-net.co.jp/ In Japan, EM beverages are sold on the street, by the bottle. These pages in a google translation give you some flavor of the ordinariness of EM in Japan compared to western countries, and may give you some idea of what your product should look like when it is made:
link1 link2 link3 link4 link5 link6 link7 link8 link9 linkX

Biokult, Primal Defense and Nature's Biotics also claim to contain soil-based microbes, but not, I believe, the PNSB necessary to make it "EM".

Primary (Soil-Based) Sources EM

Deep soil
Pond muck
Bird droppings
Moldy barn hay
Liquid in carnivorous plants

If you get EM from a primary source you will need to perform various tests on it to assure its safety and efficacy which are beyond the scope of this page.

Obtaining cultures from other, non-orthodox or not food-tested sources

In general, most people who make EM appear to have the attitude that "We don't need inexperienced people trying things that get themselves or others sick or worse, thus setting back the product, industry, etc." so there is very little help to be had in finding out ways to make your own EM brew. There are companies that sell the bacteria you are looking for, for different purposes, but do not necessarily list the bacteria on the label.



AZOOsells an aquarium product that contains .Lactobacillus sp., Streptococcus sp., Aspergylus and Fungi: and another product that contains various strains of Rhodobacter, Rhodopseudomonas sp. and Rhodospirillium sp.. All of these are suitable for EM-type cultures.




Making EM from Soil-Based Organisms From Primary Sources

To make EM, you need to get a culture of bacteria. You can buy food grade EM starters online. Search for "food grade" EM'. They are very expensive, especially considering they sell them by the quart and you only need 1 tablespoon.


You can also make your own starting with a culture extracted from moist, deep soil, the muck at the bottom of ponds and in the liquid in the pitcher that forms the trap in carnivorous plants. However, you should be aware that there are some risks involved in making your own culture from these primary sources (see above). EM comes from the soil and any commercial EM had to get its start from the soil, but, presumably, buying it from a commercial source rather than getting your own for free, much as it goes against my grain to say this, may be the safer option.

If you buy a commercial EM, follow their instructions for AEM (activated EM).

If you want to make your own primary culture from deep soil or pond muck, put it in a clear glass container, add water, mix thoroughly and then let it set. After the dirt or other solids have settled to the bottom, you can look at the water to make sure there are no parasites (roundworms) swimming around in it. Pour off the water into another clean glass jar. (Discard the dirt.) Add some sugar syrup to the water, cover with a loosely woven piece of cloth for 3 days, and then replace the cloth with an airlock and again let it set for awhile. Keep it in a sunny location.

Let a patch of grass in a sunny location grow to full height and seed and then turn dry. Take some of the straw (stalks) from this hay and add it to the water made from soil above. Wait until it shows signs of fermentation. A microscope would be helpful at this point. Check again for parasites that may have grown larger during this time. If it is still parasite-free -- and this is your responsibility -- you can start making your EM with it.

Making a batch

When making your brew, it is important that the right microbes get started at the beginning, so undesirables do not have a chance to grow. If you have brewed ale or made kombucha, you are probably familiar with this concept. To suppress undesirables, start with a small dilution at first, and then increase. In other words, start your brew half culture and half water and sugar and when that is brewing well, add more water and sugar. Another thing that will suppress undesirables is to brew in a plastic soda pop bottle with screw-on top and screw the top on which will raise the pressure with the CO2 buildup which will increase the CO2 and hydrogen in the brew, causing the pH to drop faster (and literally feeding some of the organisms faster) and inhibiting bad germs

After you have a goodly amount of EM brew with a good brew going, you can put in your additives/foodstuffs. Remember it is important to keep stirring and shaking after putting in additives so that everything stays evenly distributed.

Make Your Own Efficient Soil-Based Microbial Organisms Cultures

1. Take a heaping tablespoon of wet earth from some area that gets a lot of sun, about a foot deep.
2. Mix it with warm water
3. Take 2 cups of vegetable kitchen waste and mix it with a cup of warm water and put it in the blender on high speed. Add more warm water if necessary. Blend until it forms a thick puree.
4. Let the dirt and water stand still until sediment forms at the bottom.
5. After dirt has settled out from water, pour into the kitchen waste slurry and mix.
6. Put this in wide-mouth glass jar.
7. Cover with leaves, cut grass or other plant material.
8. Cover the mouth of the jar with a piece of plastic secured tightly with a rubber band. (Do not use biodegradable plastic)
9. Put someplace where drainage will not be a problem, and let it sit for 3 days, during which water will fizz and bubble out of the top.
10. After 3 days, replace water and then replace plastic and elastic.
11. Put someplace where drainage will not be a problem (I put the jars in plastic bags and stick them outside in moderate weather) and let sit for a month.
12. After a month, open the jar, throw away the leaves and pour the liquid onto the soil in the garden.

Make Food-Grade Microbes

Microbe elixirs contain cultures of photosynthetic bacteria, yeast and fungi. The original source is dirt. To start your own culture, you would take a heaping tablespoon of moist dirt from a sunny, open location, as deep down as you can dig, mix it with water and when the dirt settles at the bottom, use the water on top to begin culturing until you arrive at a food-safe culture. If you don't have the expertise or know-how, or sense of adventure, to determine when it is safe to use as a food starter, it would probably be better to buy a commercial EM product the first time and then use that to start a never-ending microbial culture. These instructions will assume you are using a product that is already made to a legal or government food safety standard. If you feel you want to do it yourself, see my page(s) on Harvesting Wild Yeast, learn how to make ales or other brews from airborne yeast cultures, and, after you have done that, you can transfer those skills to making your own microbe soup from dirt, if you want.

However, having said that, I decided that I, personally, wanted to cultivate my own soil-based microbes, rather than buy a commercial brand ($33 + shipping). The problem with geophagy (eating dirt) is not so much with the single-celled so-called bacterial pathogens, which apparently do no harm when cultured in this manner, (tending to prove Antoine Beschamps' germ theory that a diseased state causes bacteria to go bad, rather than Pasteur's theory of the opposite), but with multi-cellular parasites, roundworm in particular. Roundworm is very tiny but it is visible, so working with soil cultures I will have to make a close visual inspection to make sure the water I draw off the soil is completely clear with nothing visible swimming around in it. I will then have to pass it through a filter with a weave large enough to let bacteria, yeast and single-cellled fungi through, but small enough to exclude other organisms. I have no idea what size holes I should be using.

My plan is I'm going to filter it through a thin cotton handkerchief. Then I'm going to try to make a ferment (i.e., beer) with the filtered liquid. If it ferments, I'll know that yeast got through, so the bacteria would have made it, too. Then, I shall drink said liquid, which may, or may not, give me some idea if a parasite was in the liquid. (Backup plan: eat lots of garlic if I experience signs of roundworm).

If I can successfully extract a good culture from the soil, my plan is to give the instructions on how I did it to anyone, so they can try to do it on their own, but I still have to advise them to buy it already made to food standards.






First, I dug up a spoonful of dirt from the garden. (Next time I would dig deeper into damp soil.)





Next, I put the dirt in a clean glass jar









and add water










Let the dirt settle. When the water is clear, inspect visually to make sure there is nothing swimming around in it.









Pour the clear water through a cotton handkerchief, do not squeeze, do not wait until it has all dripped through but just use the water that goes through quickly at the beginning and throw the rest away.








Put a spoonful of molasses into the filtered water,










mix molasses and water let it sit until it shows signs of fermentation








I don't make a batch of EM

But here are some things I have come to learn about it if I did:

* Brew in a clear or translucent container in the light to encourage phototropic bacteria
* You have to have a microcope to check for parasites
* You need to be able to test for pH. no higher than 3.4, 3.2-3.3 would be better. If it is 3.5 it is still OK to put on your garden, but anything above 3.6, throw it out.
* The precise makeup of the microbes in EM is not that important, as long as you have purple non-sulfur bacteria, lactic-acid bacteria and yeast.
* To test for purple non-sulfur bacteria: A DIY "ball park" test for levels of PnSB in EM can be the rh2 score. A lower rh2 score indicates higher level of antioxidant action which indicates a higher level of PnSB in EM
The rh2 score is similar to an ORAC assay which is really expensive.
To find the rh2 score you need a PH and ORP pen, they are both offered in one pen or you can buy an ORP pen for about $100.00 by itself. To convert Ph and ORP score into rh2 score:
rH = (ORP + 200) / 30) + (2 * pH)

Reducing the Risk of Pathogens in Your EM Brew

E-COLI can survive in oxygen.Reducing molasses may reduce the likelihood of e-coli. Brew long enough for a balance of bacteria/archaea and protozoa so that e-coli will be controlled by protozoa (hopefully).

TESTING
Test Your EM Before Trying
Look at the seal to see if the fermentation was anaerobic (most microbes that are dangerous to humans when ingested need an aerobic environment to grow.)
Sleep on it -- think about it for a day and ask yourself if you think it's safe.
Sniff test -- The smell has been described as sweet, healthy, earthy, clean and tart. It should not be unpleasant.
Taste test -- it should taste astringent, acidic, tart. sweet and sour, with a slightly dusky background flavor of molasses, effervescent. Spoiled will make you gag. (taste only a drop, a drop is 1/60th of a teaspoon)
Try a small sample (1/4 teaspoon) and work up to larger doses if all is well with the previous sample. The taste should be clean and tart due to the lactic acid. If it is not, spit it out immediately and rinse with Listerine or some other germ killer, and then drink a glass of water with DE or clay in it.

Have a get-out plan for what you would do if you were poisoned in the unlikely event the substance is poisonous after meeting all the above tests.

DEALING WITH FOOD POISONING
You should be aware of what food poisoning feels like. Assuming you have only ingested a small amount, you will feel extremely not-hungry and very tired and sleepy. It is best to have a soft bed to lie down in and not have to have anything to do for the rest of the day and the next. Water or other liquid by the bed may be useful, but you will probably not feel like eating or drinking anything. Have heat sources such as a heating pad or space heater available should you feel cold. There may be episodes of vomiting or diarrhea at first, proceeded by dull stomachaches for the remainder of the poisoning episode. You will mostly want to sleep, and sleep will be easy though you will have strange, drugged dreams and incoherent thoughts. You may feel the pain of hunger after a few hours of not eating, but still have no desire to eat. Disclaimer: This information is given for educational purposes only, and if used or adhered to is done so solely at the reader's own risk.

I don't mean to discourage you if you want to make your own homebrewed EM, but you should be aware that food poisoning is a risk of eating living organisms. You should be prepared to take reasonable steps to reduce that risk, and know what to do if it happens.

If you still want to make EM with primary source material and are willing to take responsibility for the risks involved, go back to "Make A Soil-Based Culture".

If you don't want to take any risks and are just looking for a safe, healthy beverage you can drink, go back to the top of this page and make an EM tea with only microbes that you have already worked with in your kitchen, or buy a commercial EM starter labelled food-safe and use that to either make the EM tea entirely or to add to the EM from the kitchen tea.

Disclaimer: Some of the uses for EM culture may be contrary to rules or guidelines in your governmental jurisdiction. Also, some practices may not be approved by official or orthodox medical practitioners, and some could be dangerous if processed incorrectly. This site is offered for information only and if you choose to use the information here, you do so at your own risk and responsibility.

http://sites.google.com/site/windintheroses/em

 

[singingcrow]

Hey microbeman or other folks, what will be the difference in result if I use Hi-Brix from Earth Juice instead of molasses? Trying to use the rest up...

 

[Scrappy4]

Hey microbeman or other folks, what will be the difference in result if I use Hi-Brix from Earth Juice instead of molasses? Trying to use the rest up...

Hi brix is molasses.....scrappy

 

[idiit]

My pH test kit will not cover below 5. Any suggestions on a good test kit? Affordable...

wide range ph test kit is available in outdoor aquarium section of stores that carry these supplies.

i love em. i've used it for years. i use em to clean the cigar oils off my windshield; no "marinade", just put some on a scrubber and the cigar grease releases better than anything else i've tried.

the em i use is supplemented by seacrop that i add to the em.

i've killed powdery mildew with em and baking soda without having to close down my garden. i sprayed it on flowering buds well into flower without harming the buds and solving an extensive pm infestation.

rootballs break down very quickly in my recycle soil bin that has em plus seacrop added to it.

we sprayed em on some buds outdoors this year that were showing brown rot disease and there was no progression of the brownrot even though it was very rainy and overcast for the next few weeks. other gardens that did not get proactively sprayed were devastated by brown rot disease.

great thread. i know next to nothing about the biology/chemistry aspects but i do know from direct experience that this stuff is worth paying attention to.

i need to start researching making my own em health beverages. thanks for the thread.

 

[SeaMaiden]

Unfortunately an awful lot (most) of the links in this thread are dead links.

Thanks for that info, idiit.

 

[InjectTruth]

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Aloha thumbs and friends. I am back to give one of my biggest secrets away, it is my own homemade root inoculate or EM™/BAM(beneficial active microorganism) made with rice water, milk and sugar. There are many shelf bought version for ridiculous pricing, for those with the little know how to make ones own. House & Garden makes Root Accelerator,Hygrozyme, Sensizyme, Advanced Nutrients Voodoo Juice are some of the high priced products that my own home culture works as well as or even in some cases has even worked better. I know many growers that would not even think of culturing their own or even would have the know how to, but I offer you my knowledge for your own frugal organic gardening purposes. Not to mention how I have talked about recycling and composting with worms, now I will introduce you to the Japanese form of Bokashi Composting or fermenting and how to make your own home made cheap alternative Bokashi Buckets and Bokashi mix.

Wikipedia:

Effective Microorganisms, aka EM Technology, is a trademarked term now commonly used to describe a proprietary blend of 3 or more types of predominantly anaerobic organisms that was originally marketed as EM-1™ Microbial Inoculate but is now marketed by a plethora of companies under various names, each with their own proprietary blend. “EM™ Technology” uses a laboratory cultured mixture of microorganisms consisting mainly of lactic acid bacteria, purple bacteria, and yeast which co-exist for the benefit of whichever environment they are introduced, as has been claimed by the various em-like culture purveyors. It is reported[1] to include:

Lactic acid bacteria: Lactobacillus plantarum; L. casei; Streptococcus Lactis.
Photosynthetic bacteria: Rhodopseudomonas palustris; Rhodobacter sphaeroides.
Yeast: Saccharomyces cerevisiae; Candida utilis (no longer used) (usually known as Torula, Pichia Jadinii).
Actinomycetes (no longer used in the formulas): Streptomyces albus; S. griseus.
Fermenting fungi (no longer used in the formulas): Aspergillus oryzae; Mucor hiemalis.

The concept of ‘Friendly Microorganisms’ was developed by Japanese horticulturist Teruo Higa, from the University of the Ryukyus in Okinawa Prefecture|Okinawa, Japan. He reported in the 1970s that a combination of approximately 80 different microorganisms is capable of positively influencing decomposing organic matter such that it reverts into a ‘life promoting’ process. Higa invokes a ‘dominance principle’ to explain the effects of his ‘Effective Microorganisms’. He claims that three groups of microorganisms exist: ‘positive microorganisms’ (regeneration), ‘negative microorganisms’ (decomposition, degeneration), ‘opportunist microorganisms’. In every medium (soil, water, air, the human intestine), the ratio of ‘positive’ and ‘negative’ microorganisms is critical, since the opportunist microorganisms follow the trend to regeneration or degeneration. Therefore, Higa believes that it is possible to positively influence the given media by supplementing with positive microorganisms.

EM™ Technology is supposed to maintain sustainable practices such as farming and sustainable living, and also claims to support human health and hygiene, animal husbandry, compost and waste management, disaster clean-up (The Southeast Tsunami of 2004, the Kobe Earthquake, and Hurricane Katrina remediation projects), and generally used to promote functions in natural communities.

EM™ has been employed in many agricultural applications, but is also used in the production of several health products in South Africa and the USA.[citation needed] (fuel additive products are no longer available).

A High School in Malaysia, Sekolah Menegah Kebangsaan Dato’ Onn Butterworth, Penang, are using EM to treat Greywater, minimise odour from Septic Tank & remove sludge from drains.

This is a recipe I learned from a friend along time ago.

EM/BAM: this a trade secret!(lactobacillus culture)

1/4 cup rice

1quart Mason Jar

1 cup water

1 fine mesh strainer

80 oz milk depends on how much one is making

1 gallon container or jar

1 tsp. black-strap molasses

Procedure:

1. Place rice and cup of water in mason jar and shake vigorously until water is cloudy white, strain off rice kernels and discard into tour compost bin or cook for dinner. I have heard of the Japanese adding a dash of nato to help ferment but not needed.

rice water EM

2. place cap on loosely and store in a cabinet or cool dark place for 5-7 days.

3. Sift off top layer and strain liquid (serum)

4. measure your rice liquid and now add a ratio of 1 part fermented rice to 10 parts milk, I would culture in a 1 gallon jar. let sit for 5-7 days.

Rice water and milk serum fermenting 3 days - notice lid is only siting on top as to not build pressure.

5. sift off curd settlement and add to your soil or feed your animals it is good for their digestion, then there should be a light yellow serum left this is your unactivated serum.

6. Add 1 tsp molasses to feed and keep your bacteria alive and refrigerate. should have a shelf life of 6-12 months.

7. to activate microorganism activities and to room temperature non-chlorinated water at a ratio of 1 part Serum to 20 parts water.

8. feed to plants either straight into soil or follicular feeding.
Bokashi compost
Store Bought Bokashi

Bokashi is a method of intensive composting. It can use an aerobic or anaerobic inoculation to produce the compost. Once a starter culture is made, it can be used to extend the culture indefinitely, like yogurt culture. Since the popular introduction of effective microorganisms (EM), Bokashi is commonly ma
de with only molasses, water, EM, and wheat bran.

In home composting applications, kitchen waste is placed into a container which can be sealed with an air tight lid. These scraps are then inoculated with a Bokashi EM mix. This usually takes the form of a carrier, such

as rice hulls, wheat bran or saw dust, that has been inoculated with composting micro-organisms. The EM are natural lactic acid bacteria, yeast, and phototrophic bacteria that act as a microbe community within the kitchen scraps, fermenting and accelerating breakdown of the organic matter. The user would place alternating layers of food scraps and Bokashi mix until the container is full.

Bokashi Grain: fermented wheat barley

Bokashi is moderately easy and cheap to make and there are many online video walkthroughs, you tube being a great place for a beginner to get some help, but here is a easy simple way to make Bokashi. Mostly made from wheat husks or wheat bran but I have heard of people using any thing from oats, barley, wood chips and even unsalted peanut husks.

Bokashi Grain 10 & 50 lb mix)

10 lbs wheat bran

4 tbsp EM serum

4 tbsp Molasses

10-12 cups non -chlorinated water

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50 lb wheat bran

3/4 cup EM serum

3/4 cup Molasses

3-4 gallons Non-chlorinated water

air tight containers such as buckets with lids or storage totes will work too.

Something to mix in or on.

Procedure:

1. Add molasses to water and mix well.

2. Add Em serum

3. put wheat bran in mixing container or on something to mix on if one is making large amounts.

4. add liquid slowly and mix vigourously till all liquid is added

and all bran material is dampened. Bokashi mix should be equally damp and slightly sticks to itself.

5. For my ferment I do 5 gallon buckets and trash bags. Once my mix is ready I line a 5 gallon bucket with 2 trash bags and start scooping my Bokashi mix in side in layer, compacting and squeezing all the air out of my bran mix.(Keynote: Air will create the wrong bacterial culture and if you see black , green or gray mold throw your mix away, white is OK that is yeast.) Tie off bags and place air tight lid on bucket.

Compact Air-tight Bokashi mix in 5 gallon bucket

6. Store for 14 days in cool dark area for fermenting.

7. open fermented mix(smell should be like apple cider sweet)and Sundry on concrete or on a tarp in the sun, time may vary depending on your location and time of year for drying.

8. Place in container for your Bokashi composting needs, flush down toilet to clear septic tanks, feed to live stock to better digestion.

Well this is a couple cheap easy trade secrets that should benefit your organic medical gardens Thumbs. Be green and frugal it is best we do thing for ourselves. If you feel the need to do more research look into organic farming with probiotics for plants.