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Jcue81

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idk I think so,
This has hands down been one of the most stressful labor intensive grows I’ve had
fuckrussets
I’m just looking forward to next run where it’s not gonna be an issue
Having small plants and just being able to dunk them in sulfur is fantastic
Next run is gonna be the money shot with some sours this run shoulda been
However I may be able to cobble together some decent buds
More sour shit
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other sour shits
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It looks like you have them under control to me- buds look great. I recall Kev Jodrey talking about how insect frass is able to dissolve mite eggs. I don’t have first hand experience with mites but figured I’d mention it. Along with the sulphur it might help take out any eggs that remain. Fucking asshole borg mites!!
 

TPFTFW

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It looks like you have them under control to me- buds look great. I recall Kev Jodrey talking about how insect frass is able to dissolve mite eggs. I don’t have first hand experience with mites but figured I’d mention it. Along with the sulphur it might help take out any eggs that remain. Fucking asshole borg mites!!
sulphur does a great job as is, next round is already clean

and for the sake of transparency, I was going to wait until I knew I wouldn’t fuck this run up, but I’m pretty sure I won’t.
what I call old sour is a SourD cut the homie Notsodog sent me
he’s had it going on 23 years iirc
 

Jcue81

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sulphur does a great job as is, next round is already clean

and for the sake of transparency, I was going to wait until I knew I wouldn’t fuck this run up, but I’m pretty sure I won’t.
what I call old sour is a SourD cut the homie Notsodog sent me
he’s had it going on 23 years iirc

Nice! From the man himself. I want his LA Pure Kush (his headband cut)
 

TPFTFW

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Veteran
Nice! From the man himself. I want his LA Pure Kush (his headband cut)
It’s just LA kush* def not a PK
LAPK is a whole other thing
He’s a good dude
Shits gonna dump
not the happiest plants but still thriving given the crazy amount of shit they’ve been thru lol
Next run will be much better
Notso’s SourD
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Jcue81

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Curious if you guys run her in the summer or not. It’s mentioned a couple times in this thread to keep temps down on the sour, but I’m wondering if LED changes this at all. Do you guys who hold the cut flower her out in the summer? Trying to decide if I want to run her in the summer. My grow is super small, only three plants, so I’m wondering if I could pull it off. If not, I’ll give the Tahoe a try and see how she does.
 

DoubleTripleOG

Chemdog & Kush Lover Extraordinaire
ICMag Donor
Curious if you guys run her in the summer or not. It’s mentioned a couple times in this thread to keep temps down on the sour, but I’m wondering if LED changes this at all. Do you guys who hold the cut flower her out in the summer? Trying to decide if I want to run her in the summer. My grow is super small, only three plants, so I’m wondering if I could pull it off. If not, I’ll give the Tahoe a try and see how she does.
I've flowered her out a few times in the summer. As long as the VPD in your room is in the safe zone, you're good to go with a warmer room(85f-88f) and still get decent smoke. But if you have high temps and low humidity, she's not gonna do that well.

I have one in flower right now that is doing excellent in a room that goes from 65f-75f. And she'll be my last of the pure cut until fall. I can't control my humidity with any kind of accuracy. So it'll be Sour BX's that finish in 10 weeks or less this summer.
 

Jcue81

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I've flowered her out a few times in the summer. As long as the VPD in your room is in the safe zone, you're good to go with a warmer room(85f-88f) and still get decent smoke. But if you have high temps and low humidity, she's not gonna do that well.

I have one in flower right now that is doing excellent in a room that goes from 65f-75f. And she'll be my last of the pure cut until fall. I can't control my humidity with any kind of accuracy. So it'll be Sour BX's that finish in 10 weeks or less this summer.
That’s very helpful, thanks so much.
 

midwestkid

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any pics of them? I am sure other guys are also interested in seeing these from doctor.

yeah and why do you think she did so? temperature swinging? too high temps? ph fluctuation? not enough of ca/mg? ecsd is sensitive to these problems.
I'm not sure why they throw nanners. I just assumed it was the genetics but it could very well be my fault. The nanners don't really concern me as a random seed from these plants is a welcome surprise...
Looking at your list of possible stressors - temp is pretty steady from 68 - 82F.
I do not monitor pH at all. I'm in a homemade soil mix and I didn't run any liquid cal/mag on this cycle. So yeah, it's probably my fault!
 

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TPFTFW

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Chunkin nicely TPF

That monster tall one in the middle is a beast
Right! I’m stoked, it’ll be day 50 tomorrow and they’re really gonna start bulking
What kind of lights are those?
R2THK_lighting on IG
the sunbar V2
The light you can see in the pic is the 10 bar 840w I had them make for me and they now make it regularly, they sell a 640w 8 bar version as well. 5 year warranty, great quality. And half th price of most brands. Has a buncha diff nm diodes as well
 

Desert Dan

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Just grabbed 2 new sour cuts… One is going with the tag of “Fletcher’s Cut” passed as the same cut Fletch from Archive holds. The other with the tag of ECSD “Rez’s Cut”.

They look different from each other and definitely different from my AJ cut. Wondering if anyone ran either of these or have any other info?

It’s crazy how many “different” sour cuts have popped up in recent years.

-DD
 

DoubleTripleOG

Chemdog & Kush Lover Extraordinaire
ICMag Donor
Just grabbed 2 new sour cuts… One is going with the tag of “Fletcher’s Cut” passed as the same cut Fletch from Archive holds. The other with the tag of ECSD “Rez’s Cut”.

They look different from each other and definitely different from my AJ cut. Wondering if anyone ran either of these or have any other info?

It’s crazy how many “different” sour cuts have popped up in recent years.

-DD
Rez cut is just renamed Chaco.
 

CookieChris

New member
Looking great @TPFTFW !

Are you organic or synthetic? Plants are looking great!
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Would love to compare to your weasel sour, @Jcue81

I received this as rez cut but looks like ECSD/Chaco to me too.

I heard AJs is an S1.

@TPFTFW am curious if any of upstate/hunter mountain/weasel/Albany are distinct from the old sour / Notsos. I would imagine skunktek, Fletcher's are the same as the old sour?

@Jcue81
 
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Jcue81

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Would love to compare to your weasel sour, @Jcue81

I received this as rez cut but looks like ECSD/Chaco to me too.

I heard AJs is an S1.

@TPFTFW am curious if any of upstate/hunter mountain/weasel/Albany are distinct from the old sour / Notsos. I would imagine skunktek, Fletcher's are the same as the old sour?

@Jcue81

Who really knows what’s what with these cuts that are approaching 30 years old. Notso has talked about his old sour cut and said he collected other cuts of sour and grew them all out hoping to figure out which one he had and none of the common sour cuts were the same as his.

Keith “The Bro”, from the sour crew said in an interview there were a lot seeds from the accidental cross that created sour and that others were popping those beans. I really think Rez’s “ECSD” seed release Is really what muddied things. So many Rez cuts being passed as the original clone.

Here’s mine at day 46.
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CookieChris

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Who really knows what’s what with these cuts that are approaching 30 years old. Notso has talked about his old sour cut and said he collected other cuts of sour and grew them all out hoping to figure out which one he had and none of the common sour cuts were the same as his.

Keith “The Bro”, from the sour crew said in an interview there were a lot seeds from the accidental cross that created sour and that others were popping those beans. I really think Rez’s “ECSD” seed release Is really what muddied things. So many Rez cuts being passed as the original clone.

Here’s mine at day 46.
I agree with Notsodogs approach and am doing the same thing bc who knows which names are even which on which cuts depending on who has them by now.

However, when I called another east coast head over to check out mine in person, he said the Rez cut I have is the one that used to go around NYC metro area @ 800 / zip straight up. Just by the structure and flower smell, he was certain but the smoke test will tell. I can't say I am also certain but have the same suspicion. I'll let you all know on smoke report. (I need a new light with a dimmer for my next run with it bc my ppfd was way too high and bleached it almost to death.)

Then we have the enigma of which of these phenos is the mysterious one that Manny popped. That's the one that leaves you elevated and confused/lost keys for 3.5-4 hours, I think. The psychedelic, crushingly strong one. I'm hoping that one is either the Upstate, Chaco, or ECSD. It doesn't sound like that's the AJ cut in anyone's opinion.
 

TPFTFW

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Notso has had this cut for going on 23 years, never lost it, hasn’t had to get it back from anyone.
the whole reason I didn’t say it was his to begin with when you all were quoting notso and talking about la kush 10 pages ago is I have little interest in getting in the middle of things and putting words in folks mouth lol.
what I can say is this cut is fire as fuck, loud as fuck.. and beyond the fact this has been a run with a lot of hiccups, it’s the healthiest non tired sour cut I’ve ran.
The buds are deceptively dense
52 days
seems like my old ass sour regimen still does the trick tho
and when he gave it to me I was the only other cat with it, I told him I didn’t wanna tag his name so we came up with “old sour” lol.
I wonder how long until people start piggy backing on that name.
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