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EC problem
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Bluntpower
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By flushing i mean i did not use nuts.
They got between 3 & 4 liter per pot when i meant flushing.
When i water normally it's always 2 liter per pot.
I still haven't fed them after that tho, still hesitating
OG_NoMan
Not Veteran
Some help
Some help
Read this thread over and over until you have it almost memorized
https://https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=241341
For some reason the link won't work but look at (a few things I learned growing coco dtw) in the coco section. H3ad goes coco is a good one too.
Then continue in some of the other coco threads the coco trees one is good also. After that you should have a firm grasp on coco. Also look at the coco chemistry one which will talk about the cat ion exchange of coco and how to charge and keep your coco with consistent nutrient delivery to your plants. You are growing Hydro so you need to think about it like that. Good luck.
Some help
Read this thread over and over until you have it almost memorized
https://https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=241341
For some reason the link won't work but look at (a few things I learned growing coco dtw) in the coco section. H3ad goes coco is a good one too.
Then continue in some of the other coco threads the coco trees one is good also. After that you should have a firm grasp on coco. Also look at the coco chemistry one which will talk about the cat ion exchange of coco and how to charge and keep your coco with consistent nutrient delivery to your plants. You are growing Hydro so you need to think about it like that. Good luck.
I think it may be overwatering. The curled up leaves look like it. Your pots should feel really light before you water.
As far as those EC's being higher in runoff... you need less ferts as everybody has mentioned.
And also always calibrate your meters often. I do mine once a week.
Lastly if you store nutrient put an air stone in it.
And also always calibrate your meters often. I do mine once a week.
Lastly if you store nutrient put an air stone in it.
By flushing i mean i did not use nuts.
They got between 3 & 4 liter per pot when i meant flushing.
When i water normally it's always 2 liter per pot.
I still haven't fed them after that tho, still hesitating
Flushing is when you dump 2-3x pot size. That's why nothing is really changing. You are trying to flush out all the excess. 15L pot needs 30-45L of water to flush properly. Also don't ever do straight water, you will throw off your caution banks. Cut nutes down to a quarter of what you have been currently feeding them. Once you get ec and ph coming out the same as what's going in then try a Ec of maybe 1.0 or so
Over watering young plants in coco will cause nitrogen lockout, and cause the plant to have a very wimpy root system. I let the surface get a little dry before watering. By the time they go into flower they will need to be watered twice a day, and almost impossible to over water at that point, unless you have been over watering throughout veg. That is why air pots and smart pots are prefered. They help it dry out quicker and prevent root circling, by air pruning the roots.
Bluntpower
Member
Read this thread over and over until you have it almost memorized
https://https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=241341
For some reason the link won't work but look at (a few things I learned growing coco dtw) in the coco section. H3ad goes coco is a good one too.
Then continue in some of the other coco threads the coco trees one is good also. After that you should have a firm grasp on coco. Also look at the coco chemistry one which will talk about the cat ion exchange of coco and how to charge and keep your coco with consistent nutrient delivery to your plants. You are growing Hydro so you need to think about it like that. Good luck.
I've already read a lot through that forum, but you're right, i need to get back to it.
The hardest thing for me is to learn/understand something new in english which isn't my native language, typing it and learning something new in the language is an entire different story.
Bluntpower
Member
when i read how many times people water their plants i'd say it's impossible, it's more likely i didn't water them enough
the pots are always light when i feed them, maybe a bit too light..
Bluntpower
Member
I fed them before bedtime yesterday @ 1.0ec.
The pens are working well so far, whenever i have a doubt i just test them in tapwater which in know is always 6.7ph.
I always thouroughly clean them after use, even if i need them again 2min later
I never store nuts since they don't last more than 24h after touching water.
Bluntpower
Member
That would be a nasty job lol, i'm located in the basement where there is no water evacuation
Too late for that i first ran some water through them and than feeded 1.0ec so it's pretty close to what you say
this is the results after the plain water again to compare:
and these are the results after 1.0ec feeding before bed:
Plant 1 >> 6.4ph in >> 5.8ph out - 1.2ec
Plant 2 >> 6.2ph in >> 6.3ph out - 1.2ec
Plant 3 >> didn't touch that's the one that is doing great and didn't get the water only either.
Plant 4 >> 5.6ph in >> 6.4ph out - 1.2ec
Here is a master coco grower, explaining how to feed them. Skim through first 10 pages quick, which is mostly pictures. After that he explains using small containers to start, and wanting them to need to be watered, before feeding.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=300255
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=300255
Bluntpower
Member
It's my first time so i don't really know what healthy roots look like.
I can see them tops coming out underneath the pots tho, they look very healthy and snow white.
I'll defenetely get better pots next time
Bluntpower
Member
Actually further on, I think about page 10, but have not read in awhile, he discusses needing to let vegging plants dry out somewhat, or poor root development.
You will know when you up pot. If the coco falls of the ball, then poor root system.
Went back and looked, yes that page towards bottom -
with that said, multifeeds only work with A. an undersized rootbound pot and B. a thriving and thick root mass...if you throw and under developed root system in too big of a pot and try it , its a recipe for disaster...roots need dry cycles to thrive and expand...once root bound is when you want to start multifeeding...during early veg I use a wet and dry cycle and only start muti feeds in the final container...I do this to encourage dense roots mass as the dry cycle make the roots branch out in search of water...keeping them wet early on will not and will retard root growth ..once in final containers I start 2x a day and bump up as necessary to keep the medium wet...by flip im running 6x a day...this is with pure coco..if cut with enough perlite, once could multifeed from the jump with similar results
Bluntpower
Member
1 is looking worse today, more droopy than usual, also branches of leaves looking redish:
How high is humidity, and do you have good air circulation?? I just got f-ed over by Fusarium Wilt, which will manifest in bud rot a couple of weeks before harvest. Purpling of stalks and leaves, and yellowing early is a sign.
Bluntpower
Member
looking back @ the last 2 weeks humidity is always between 49 and 57, mostly around 52-53.
temperature in last 2 weeks is between 26.1° (79°F) and 24.9° (77°F), mostly around 25.5°C (78°F)
canopy temperature is always slightly higher, not much tho.
there are 2 fans in the tent in the corners, every leaf in the tent is gently dancing.
Bluntpower
Member
I think they didn't like much the more frequent waterings of the last 2 days, yesterday i fed them 1 liter per plant and still got a little runoff, that doesn't seem right in a 15 liter pot.
OG_NoMan
Not Veteran
I don't know if anyone has said anything yet. But you need to use smaller pots for coco. I grow in 1 gal pots and it only takes about 2 weeks till I am multi feeding. That is your goal in coco to multi feed to get the benefits of hydro. You are definitely learning a lot with your first grow but I guarantee your second grow will be much better if you follow some of the guidelines in this thread. Good luck brother.
