EBOLA

[blastfrompast]

Stoned-trout

They have proven dogs in Africa have been exposed and have anti-bodies...they did a survey of 500 stray dogs in an infected area....388 had anti-bodies or virus in them...Dogs don't show symptoms or die from it...and they say it is possible to contract thru the dogs bodily fluids (picking up shit in baggies, urine, dog slobber, to name a few.

Sobering thought....

On a lighter side, I went fishing with a guy who's nickname was stoned-budgie.... lol

 

[Grass Lands]

Here is a good read...

http://dtolar.wordpress.com/2014/10/01/ebola-a-nurses-perspective/

Ebola, A Nurse’s Perspective

So a few months ago the country was enthralled with the idea of a few patients, infected with the Ebola virus, coming to the United States. Up until this point, we had been safe from Ebola due to the fact that bats can’t fly over the Atlantic. Some people were completely indifferent, while others had seen Outbreak one too many times. Most were a healthy mix, somewhere in between, but what bothered me the most was both the lack of education and the poor information that was spreading more virulently than the virus could ever hope to.

First, I want to stress that I am a nurse, not a virologist, and hopefully throughout my post you will see that I am not pretending to be one. I have a Bachelor’s in Nursing and am currently a graduate student. I have worked extensively with Infectious Disease Specialists. I have been exposed to almost every infectious disease known to the modern world. I have taken courses in Biology, Microbiology, Anatomy, Physiology, Pathophysiology, Advanced Pathophysiology, Pharmacology, and an assortment of others. However, I am not and will not pretend to be an expert, just an experienced professional. When it comes to an epidemic of any sort, my first focus is on the patient, protecting and healing them, my second focus is on protecting the community. I don’t care about which strain does what, or what we can do with in lab. As a nurse, I concern myself with the current patient and future possible patients. I feel the first thing we should examine is Ebola itself. It is foreign to the US, both literally and figuratively. What it does to people and how it harmonizes with nature are both things that most westerners have little concept of. It is a virus, not a bacteria. This means that it is not its own organism. It is actually much smaller and basic than you can imagine. It is nothing more than a few pieces of DNA and some proteins. No cell wall, no cytoplasm, no metabolic functions. This is both their advantage and their downfall. Viruses require a host. For this example I will use the HIV virus. HIV gets into the human body and invades the host’s white blood cells, T4 cells to be exact but I won’t get that involved. The proteins help get the virus into the cell and those few small sequences of DNA write themselves into the host DNA. Now instead of the white blood cell attacking invaders, it is nothing more than an HIV factory. All of its metabolic functions are redirected at producing more of the virus, which pours out of the white blood cell like a sieve until eventually the host cell dies. This is why HIV infected patients have poor immune systems. The virus re-writes the DNA of the host cells. This is not something we can stop. New viruses are pouring out of the white blood cells at a rate of millions a day. We cannot filter them out. We cannot “kill” a little chunk of DNA and we don’t know enough about the human genome to correct the DNA sequences. This is why a lot of viral infections like HIV, Herpes, and Hepatitis are life long infections. HIV invades the white blood cells, Herpes invade the nerve roots, and Hepatitis invades the liver.

Now that we have a better grasp of viruses, we will focus on Ebola a bit more. In tropical Africa, Ebola naturally lives in bats. It is nice to the bats and doesn’t cause them many issues. It is rumored that there are many viruses humans carry our entire lives and have no idea because they show zero symptoms. Therefore, they have never been studied. If this sounds crazy, just remember that it was in recent years the we discovered there was a virus behind cervical cancer. A virus that men can carry and spread without ever knowing they have it. Where the problem arises is that in tropical Africa, people like to eat bats. Sometimes they get infected with Ebola and it spreads. This process is called Zoonosis and can be true of bacteria or viruses. Canines carry Rabies, Armadillos carry Leprosy, Birds carry the Flu, Bats carry Ebola.

When I said Westerners don’t really understand Ebola, the primary aspect that I am talking about is the patient. We don’t ever see what Ebola does. Our media is too censored, we hear how many died, and see people in haz-mat suits. Speaking of suits, we’ve all seen the pictures. Rubber gloves are adequate for AIDS and hepatitis, a simple mask stops Tuberculosis, but this requires space suits, just keep that in mind when you think its no big deal. So here is what happens when you catch Ebola, I figure you’re getting bored with reading right about now, so I’ll spice it up. First the virus gets into your system, I’ll elaborate on that later. Then, it hangs out for a few days, even up to 21, growing, multiplying at a rate of millions a day, and guess what, you’re infectious. Just like with the flu or hand foot and mouth disease, you can be spreading it to others before you show a symptom*. Remember, nurse mind set, protect the community. At first it’s not bad, little nausea, some sweating, diarrhea, much like a stomach bug. But then the virus really starts to build up in your liver and adrenal glands, after it has saturated your blood cells, the lining of your vessel, your skin, and bones. Hepatocellular necrosis occurs, which is fancy term for your liver starts to decompose.Your liver is what regulates blood clotting. This causes your blood either clot up and turn to jelly in your veins, stay liquid and bleed profusely, or a combo of both. The adrenal glands then do the same, causing your blood pressure to drop. This requires lots of IV fluids to keep your circulating volume up. At the same time inflammatory cytokines are released which causes vascular leakage. Cells don’t do a good job of holding things together so it all becomes a bloody goop. Anywhere in your body that blood vessels are shallow, like your nose, ears, gums, throat, GI tract, urethra, vagina, rectum, all start oozing fluids and bleeding because the tissues that normally keep it contained are disintegrating. So now you bleed from every orifice, including your eyeballs. Every time someone or something touches you, your tissue gets damaged which further the cycle, so a shot in the arm turn into a massive blood blister. Those who survive are left with massive scarring. Since the adrenals cannot keep your blood pressure up, and you are losing blood and fluids, we have to put IV fluids in to keep you out of hypovolemic shock. This in turn reduces your blood concentration, lowering your oxygen carrying capacity, which causes your heart to race. So you lay in bed, oozing fluids from everywhere, all while feeling like you just ran a marathon, with bloody diarrhea, oh and did I mention pain? Lots and lots of pain, but you can’t have any pain medicine because your liver and kidneys have failed. This why it pains me when I see this outbreak ONLY has a 50% death rate, when in Africa it is up to 90%…ONLY 50%. That is literally worse than cancer, and people are blowing it off. Imagine if cancer was infectious, and you lived in a country with zero cancer, and someone thought it would be a good idea to fly a few people in. I think there would be a different attitude.

The biggest part of the discussion is how Ebola is spread. I will say two things on the topic, no, it is not airborne, and yes, basic hygiene plays a HUGE factor. But while on the topic of whether it is or is not airborne, the definition of an airborne contagion is one that can freely float in the air, survive lengths of time, and infect someone else. VERY few things fit in this category, most have been eradicated, Polio, Small Pox, Tuberculosis. Things that are also NOT airborne, are the flu and the cold. For the flu, you have to come into direct contact with the patients body fluids. How then, do you explain why people catch it and have no idea how. Well for one, people can spread it before they show symptoms, just like Ebola, and one other HUGE factor…droplets….let that word really sink in. The virus may not be airborne, but the droplets are. I’m going to digress for a second and get back to HIV and hepatitis, while I let droplets dwell in your mind. Everyone knows that HIV and Hepatitis are spread by blood contact, and sexual fluids, I don’t mean a drop of blood on the skin, or even a mucous membrane, it has to get INSIDE of you. This is why only gloves are required. HIV and hepatitis are not found in urine, stool (Some forms of hepatitis are, but you have to eat the stool to get infected) saliva, sweat, tears, or mucous. This is where some viruses are different. The flu gets into your mucous and other secretions, Ebola tends to stay in the blood, but remember, every one of your bodily fluids are full of blood now. So a person with the flu sneezes, and now millions of little droplets (remember those guys?) shoot out of their nose at nearly mach 1, all across the room, same for a cough, all it takes is a little microscopic droplet to land in your eye, nose, mouth, or the unlikely scenario of an open wound, and you’ve now been infected, because you came in CONTACT with their bodily fluids. I see the word contact thrown around a lot, but most people think of mass amounts of contact with blood, but what they don’t realize is that contact also includes microscopic mucous and saliva droplets, each one chock full of Ebola. Now to the second part of this, HIV only lives outside of the human body for a few seconds, maybe minutes if the quantity is high enough, Hepatitis a bit longer. That’s why you hear about the dirty needles at movie theaters and playgrounds, but never hear of an infection, before the perpetrator even leaves the theater, the HIV he left in that needle has already died. Ebola on the other hand survives quite well outside of the host, I can’t find my source again, but I believe its up to 4 days.

So with all this information, lets have some role play, so that you can see exactly what this means, to a nurse, in the real world. Imagine it as a cheesy PSA or lifetime movie. You go to see your doctor because its that time of year, you need some blood drawn and refills of your blood pressure med. You sit patiently in the waiting room, thumbing a magazine while your 2-year-old plays with her toys. Like all two year olds, she touches everything, and everything goes in her mouth, toys, pens, her own fingers. She is a 22 lb drool factory and you love her to pieces. You see the doctor, get your goodies, and go home. A week later your angel starts vomiting blood and within 3 days she dies because her heart raced so fast it finally gave up while trying to maintain a blood pressure. Her eyes are blood red and demonic, her skin falls off in sheets. What you don’t know is that 3 days before your visit, someone thought they had the flu. It is October you see and they sneezed while thumbing through that very same magazine you thumbed through. The same thumb you grabbed her pacifier out of your purse with in the waiting room. The people caring for Ebola patients wear space suits, and burn the bodies, yet it still spreads. Here in America, we have much better protocols, and much better hygiene. So if it spreads, it will be contained much better. Still, it spreads prior to symptoms and survives will outside the body, just like the flu. Despite vaccines and good hand washing, thousands still get the flu every year. But while the flu kills 1-2% of its victims, Ebola kills 50% on a good day, and spreads the same way. So please, do not write it off as hype. It is a real thing and it is here.

The case in Dallas has been confirmed. The patient had contact with five children and adolescents prior to admission. Those five kids attend four of the largest schools in Dallas. One sneeze and we could already have thousands of people, who don’t know it yet, infected.

Thank you for reading. Please feel free to comment.

* I have had a lot of comments in regards to this. I picked my words carefully, but I never imagined getting thousands of views an hour, or my article getting picked apart, but I will try to elaborate now. I said spread, the virus, I did not say you were contagious. What I meant by this, was the summation of two concepts. To fully explain everything I could write a book, but this is meant to be short and sweet. The first concept is that of a fomite. We have established that the virus can survive for an unspecified amount of time outside the host, and we have established that sneezing/coughing is a perfectly logical method of transmission. So if patient A is infectious/contagious, they sneeze on patient B, but then patient B goes home and picks up their sisters 1 6 month old, who rubs his face, and licks all over your shoulder, he could very well have just orally consumed large quantities of the virus, therefore become patient C. Patient B never got sick, the virus never entered their system, yet they are responsible for spreading the virus to someone else. This is why the 5 exposed kids are so important, there may only be a 2% chance or whatever that they’ll get sick, but if they went to school, and each rubbed up against 500 kids in the hallways, you now have 2500 exposed kids, 50 of which will statistically become infected, 25 of which will probably die. No I do not have a source for the 2%, that is just an example number used to represent the relatively low likelihood of contracting the virus if exposed. Remember, heal the patient, PROTECT the community. The second concept of this is defining “symptom”. Lets assume it means anything other than your baseline condition. That means the first signs of being contagious, are also the more mild symptoms, sneezy, achy, nausea, flu-like symptoms. So who is going to wake up, feel a little under the weather, and think,crap, I have Ebola, better get quarantined, no, THAT’S how you start fear mongering and mass panic. Again, flu season is upon us, the initial stages of Ebola are like the flu, and its human nature to be in denial, so many people, if infected, would hope its just the flu and wait it out, they are not showing symptoms indicative of Ebola, but they ARE symptomatic of something, and therefore, by the CDC definition, would be contagious. Its also normal procedure for people to be symptomatic BEFORE seeking medical care, so technically, everyone will be contagious, BEFORE knowing they have Ebola. But like I said before, I omitted this lengthy explanation because I didn’t feel it was necessary for the point of the article.

ADDENDUM: Sadly, I feel the need to point out that the title of this blog is “Ebola, A Nurse’s Perspective”, not “A Nurse’s Guide to Surviving the Apocalypse”, or “How to Become an Ebola Expert in 15 minutes”. It could just as well be “Hamburgers, A Chef’s Perspective” and no one would be hounding me over grammar, a misplaced comma, or wanting citations as to why I say it should be on the grill 5 minutes per side of 7 minutes per side. The point is those things are irrelevant to the goal of the article, this is MY perspective (a particular attitude toward or way of regarding something; a point of view.) I don’t have to prove anything, the point of my article is to take what the uneducated (in a medical sense) journalists say, what the talking heads on TV say, and then let you know what the people say who are on the front lines. That’s like discrediting your grandads account of what happened when he stormed Normandy beach, because its not what your history teacher told you. Have I experienced Ebola first hand? Nope, have I experienced a WHOLE lot of other things that the majority of the population has not? You bet your ass I have, and I felt the need to take the time to hopefully help other people out a little. So please keep that in mind, I’m not perfect, but my experiences are my experiences, and I wanted to share them with you, to let you inside the head of a nurse for a minute.

 

[Weird]

Ebola OG

 

[Bulldog420]

whats with english must be my 2nd language lol ?
i know a few words of hebrew,finnish & Portugese

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If English is your first language then why do you have problems stringing together a coherent sentence?

 

[quokka]

Terrorists will start to use suicide ebola-ers.......... get infected and then goto a supermarket coughing on everyone.

 

[Useful Idiot]

Before I state my opinion, I will say I do not wear a foil hat. I just know that most people are not prepared to deal with a serious crisis. Studies have shown that most families do not keep enough food in their home to last them more than a week. Damn...a week!! If this virus or another spreads,you will want to have plenty of supplies available to you and your loved ones. That way you will not have to go into public for any reason. Being prepared does not make you a crazy nut who fears every little thing going on in the world today. It just insures that you and yours have a chance if SHTF. I'm not saying run out and buy truckloads of food and water. I'm just saying start buying a little more and rotate your stock. Pasta, rice, beans, canned meats, ect have an amazingly long shelf life. Emergency water filters are really cheap as well. Being prepared does not just cover disease and disaster....what if you were to lose your source of income?? Wouldn't it be nice to know you have plenty of food to get you by?? Oh yeah...be sure to have a huge stash of buds as well. And a way to protect your goods from others who were not prepared.

 

[quokka]

I think a lot of people struggle to keep a weeks worth of food at home which is maybe why more people don't have an emergency supply.

 

[Useful Idiot]

I think a lot of people struggle to keep a weeks worth of food at home which is maybe why more people don't have an emergency supply.

I hear you there. I also know that some of them smoke ciggs, have a PS 3 or 4 and buy the new games at $60 a pop. Drink beer and alcohol and complain they are poor. I agree that there are some folks HONESTLY having a tough time. My message to folks was...do what you can, and try your best to have extra supplies just in case.

 

[yahooman]

thats a bad bad joke

 

[LEF]

seems like a bad joke but it's simply reality

 

[stoned-trout]

Stoned-trout

They have proven dogs in Africa have been exposed and have anti-bodies...they did a survey of 500 stray dogs in an infected area....388 had anti-bodies or virus in them...Dogs don't show symptoms or die from it...and they say it is possible to contract thru the dogs bodily fluids (picking up shit in baggies, urine, dog slobber, to name a few.

Sobering thought....

On a lighter side, I went fishing with a guy who's nickname was stoned-budgie.... lol

well they killed that ladies dog without checking...with 5 kinds of ebola don't count on there not being more...but thank god dogs are safe from the virus for now but if they carry it there will be mass shootings of dogs.. I always liked dogs more than people for the most part,,,

 

[aridbud]

Ebola hemorrhagic fever (Ebola fever) is caused by a virus belonging to the family called Filoviridae. Scientists have identified five types of Ebola virus. Four have been reported to cause disease in humans: Ebola-Zaire virus, Ebola-Sudan virus, Ebola-Ivory Coast virus, and Ebola-Bundibugyo. The human disease has so far been limited to parts of Africa.

The Reston type of Ebola virus has recently been found in the Philippines.

The disease can be passed to humans from infected animals and animal materials.Ebola can also be spread between humans by close contact with infected body fluids or through infected needles in the hospital.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001339.htm

Probably the reason to dispose of the canine.When new diseases spread like wild fire, often people are not rational. The plague and HIV come to mind. Recall working in an urgent care in 1981...had a Dr. come running into the exam room telling me "Don't let that guy cough on you!". He had AIDS. Since then, it has come to pass...HIV/AIDS cannot be transmitted through air borne particles. When AIDS first started in on the scene in late 70's, early 80's....fear (of the unknown) was widespread.

 

[TrinZilla]

So antibodies = convalescent serum? Or rather convalescent serum = blood high in antibodies? Is it just blood? We hear there has sprung up a black market for the serum in Africa, however wouldn't the blood have a significant chance of also carrying other deadly viruses?

 

[br26]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovz_mRKjLVQ

The chick at 1:23 is super cute

 

[SPG.]

!! and the one near the start!
The Lyrics on that Song have been Altered from "Dont Eat that Meat"[etc] TOO "No Eating Something Dangerous"

Outta rep..
cheers.

 

[RetroGrow]

what are they gonna do wipe out all of africas animals as a precaution...

we've already done a pretty good job of that. Most of Africa's, and the worlds animals have been wiped out. 40% of species in the last 10 years. Tigers? Basically finished, except in zoos. As long as the human population keeps growing out of control as it is, there will be less and less habitat for animals, and those that remain will be eaten by the starving billions. We are supposed to be the smartest animals, but what we have done to our home suggests otherwise.

 

[SPG.]

Found another Whilst looking for that^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ_5jqKFPEg

[oops,thats ^^ a dude sure now i look again].. REimples

 

[SPG.]

^ Hi RG YES Agree more and more Animals especially in Africa are becoming endangered of Near Extinction!? SAD

 

[RetroGrow]

Wherever human populations soar, animals decline. Not only Africa, but India too. The ivory trade is wiping out the elephants. Chinese "medicine" is wiping out the rest of the animals. They don't have a chance. Until we put a lid on overpopulation in the third world, things will continue to deteriorate. Nature has a way of fighting back. Ebola is a good example.

 

[SPG.]

Ive Thought that..Same as with HIV/AIDS. Elephants and Ivory is what Sprung to mind straight off Various Skins & oils/fluids too.
A TV program i saw recently Called "Benefits street"? showed one family that had 23 kids!
Happy as "muck" they were..£££ -Amongst other things they had a nice Koi carp pool in their Garden some of the fish they paid £200 for!
India's Terrible! Theres Guys there that Steal peoples DOGS solely for the Meat Trade..
Hundreds of them Crammed into Cages being Transported to A Slaughter house.
Sick..