East Coast MIDGRADE SMOKE REPORT

[PrimaNochta]

Hello IC!

I haven't posted a smoke report before, so bear with me. First of all, this sample of cannabis is what people consider "Midgrade" on the east coast of the U.S. It was bricked at some point, but not heavily, and contains about 5-8 seeds per 1/8th, which is sold for $35. I got a 1/2 for $90, which is expensive in my opinion, but a fairly good price for this area (around 38N Lat ).





APPEARANCE: Light green leaves, fairly well trimmed for Mids. Calyxes were fairly small (3mm in length max), light green to light brown/tan color, decent trich coverage FOR MIDGRADE and for bricked nugs. A lot of dark orange pistils.

AROMA: VERY strong and deep honey smell, very characteristic of good midgrade/brick, could be a result of outdoor grow or curing conditions. More of a "flowery" tone to the honey aroma, reminded me of the smell of honey comb more than possessed honey itself. If you have smoked good U.S./Mexi brick then I'm sure you have an idea of the aroma I am describing. This particular Midgrade was a quite pleasant mids aroma.

TASTE/SMOKE: Consumed via a glass chillum; only packed one single hit so as to only taste "greens." No distinct taste sticks out, more of a medley of earthy and herbal tones. Quite pleasant for lower grade marijuana.





EFFECT: Definitely a sativa dominant strain! After initial head rush, the cerebral high sets in; it is felt in the frontal lobe first. The reason I say that it is "felt" in a specific part of the brain, is because I can actually feel the numbness/buzzing in that part of my head (those of you who are familiar with sativa highs probably know what I'm referring to.....likely most of you do lol ). After about 5-10 min the high migrates to the occipital lobe, where not only does it stay for the rest of the high, but is also felt the strongest here. This cerebral high lasted roughly 2 hours, after first smoke of the day on the second day of smoking this sample, EVER. Also I SWORE that i was getting distortions/hallucination in my peripheral vision, but who knows.

I have grown various bagseed midgrade strains in the past, with very good results . Having done so, I have come up with a cataloging system for describing obtained bagseeds. This stuff was labeled "M.M.8". The first M is the name of the city where the cannabis was purchased, the second M is for Midgrade, and the 8 is for 8/10 for overall quality (a scale of 0 to 10 for MIDGRADE, i.e. DOES NOT apply for schwag or kind bud). I am currently growing two other midgrade strains from this general area (DC, VA, WV, NC, TN) one is a 9/10 (B.M.9) on my scale, and the other is a 11/10 (J.W.11) (just seemed better than anything i have considered a 10 before, but was still mids in relation to price and appearance). They went under 12/12 a week ago, had 3 B.M.9's and 3 J.W.11's, two of the B.M.9's seem to be males, the rest have shown female pre-flowers. Separated the males as I plan to do some crosses; in fact, out of the two males, which came from the same bag, there are two distinct phenos showing right now, one indica-leaf dominant/light green and the other sativa-leaf dominant/dark green, so it should be pretty interesting when i cross the B.M.9 female (which is a sativa pheno) with these two males.

Does anyone have any information on the possible origin of bricked to semi-bricked midgrade in the central latitudes of the east coast? Based on my experience and observations I would guess its probably grown fairly close (Appalachian region), but some mexi mids have gotten this far in the past. Almost 100% sure it was outdoor and that whoever grew it actually took care of it and ripped the males at some point, I say this since there are only one to two seeds per bud, and those seem to be from either pre-flower calyxes or very early flowers, suggesting that the males were pulled at this point and the females were left to mature. But, on the other hand, I guess the seeds could have been a result of hermies, but IMHO this is not likely. Personally I have never seen hermies in midgrade nugs, while I have seen them in beasters PLENTY. Who knows, if it is in fact a sativa dominant strain then hermies would be expected, right?

Finally, A LOT of people do not buy midgrade just out of the stereotype of it being "brown/nasty/bricked/mexican/seeded/etc." IMO this is completely false and unfounded, just cuz its cheaper it does not imply it is bad quality or of poor genetics, for that matter (schwag is a whole different story though . Personally, I prefer to switch between Midgrade and Beasters, if I am smoking commercial herb. This alternates the highs, at least in this area, beasters tend to be indica-dom. hybrids and mids tend to lean toward the sativa side more often. And headies are way too overpriced and usually unimpressive or lack diversity. Point being: GROW YOUR OWN!

Cheers!

 

[bounty29]

Awesome report! I can't help you with the origins of your midgrade, but I really like your categorizing system. Great post

 

[SweetIndica2]

I live on the eastcoast and get some midgrade every now and then when i'm not growing, our midgrade seems to be better than most areas i've seen. The mids i get is light green and fairly frosty, maybe one or two seeds an eighth. Infact, it smokes better than beasters AKA "kindbud" that comes down here from BC. I also don't notice any chemically harsh taste when smoking it, i also get a fairly strong high.

 

[bounty29]

I am also on the east coast, but beasters and kindbud are two different categories. Beasters is like mexi-brick of the north, but better quality. Kindbud is on par with stuff you grow yourself. Well grown, not compressed, good bud.

Maybe it's because we're from different areas, but people shouldn't confuse beasters with kindbud.

 

[SweetIndica2]

Kindbud is not self grown bud, atleast what i'm used to. Beatsers is kindbud, every state i've been to people call beasters, kindbud.

How is beasters like mexi-brick? First of all, it's not bricked. Second of all, mexi brick is dirt weed thats loaded with seeds. I have never found a seed in beasters.

Good bud around here is known as Headies, and is usually named by the strain. I would never buy bud off someone who didn't know the strain name, and tryed to call it "kindbud".

Regardless, i would never buy bud from someone who called their strain "kindbud" of "headies", if they don't know the actual strain then they aren't getting my money. But, i grow bud for myself usually anyways.

Beatsers: http://420.marijuana.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6802&d=1148094852

 

[Guest]

im holding some of that exact same stuff. it comes across the canadian border for sure (and so its nice and cheap in my area). its about $120 an O if you know the right people but anywhere from 170-240 an O depending on who it is resold to and demand at the time (its gettin to be dry time, etc). Its actually a nice hittin strain. The only thing is, smoke it for more than2 weeks and it'll barely do a thing to ya besides a nice lil chill buzz.

35 1/8 is a decent price for that amount of it, but get o know the person you're dealin with because they can do better than that unless a few hundred miles from the border makes the price pop up that much.
the stuff is definitely bricked tight, it breaks up nice and big again though and im definitely happy with the trich coverage on this as opposed to some beasters ive seen.

the seeds aren't toooo much of a PITA to pick out, but once in a while ill miss one of the immature ones and get that nasty hotburn pop.

 

[PotaMust]

Im also from the eastcoast, probably not far from you bounty and I get what you mean,. The beasters are crap buds. Normaly not even getting you high if you smoke them. They have little no no smell other then wet grass smell. There not brick nugs only in the sense there alittle fresher, and still wet so they dont turn to that brick like state in the large bags. But i can really see the comparison between the brickshwag and beasters. Im right on the river, barely on the other side actually, so im guessing we are talking of the same stuff.

 

[SweetIndica2]

Yea, beasters is nasty. It's always atleast a little wet, smells of hay and has that nasty chemically harsh taste. It's also kiefed before it's sold i believe, schwag and beasters are definately similar in the type of high, as neither get you that high...but as far as looks, they look totally different. Beasters looks alot better than it smokes. schwag looks shitty, and smokes shitty lol.

 

[PotaMust]

schwag and beasters are definately similar in the type of high, as neither get you that high...but as far as looks, they look totally different. Beasters looks alot better than it smokes. schwag looks shitty, and smokes shitty lol.[/QUOTE]


Agreed 100%

 

[cocktail frank]

i haven't had these "middie" problems since i started growing.
im on the EC too, used to get "dro"
garbage stuff, i'd always take a trip to harlem to buy that piff haze instead of that crap.
personally, i had no problem spending close to $400/oz for good haze as compared to $100/oz of dro.

 

[killa-bud]

i'ed pick shwagg 99% over mids,

my shwagg,not that comprssed at all,maybe 3 seeds in half,just gotta mosited it up a lil,smokes much better

mids is more money for an inferour product,mids is always mids,with shwagg you can get anything,sometimes really fucking potent,

i can get a half o of this shwagg for 50,while the mids can sell for 20 for fucking 2 grams,and its sokeing wet most of the time,so its paying for dank,but getting crap

 

[SweetIndica2]

cocktail- your joking right? you don't really feed into the "dro" and "pif haze" bullshit do you? First of all, most "dro" is just beasters, given the name "dro" by kids who know nothing about bud to begin with. I have seen the socalled "haze" from ny, and most of it sucks. If someone is calling it "pif haze", they obviously don't know what they are talking about. Kids assume when they call bud dro, that that automatically means it's good, when little do they know the beasters they are really selling, is usually grown in soil. Not to mention growing in hydro is not going to make the bud ANY better, infact most people who grow for personal use prefer orangically grown soil bud, it tastes better and generally is better quality IMO. Isn't piff a word that some rapper made up in a song? correct me if i'm wrong, but i remember in college kids would always mention "pif", i asked someone what it was and thats what they told me. I'm sick of these BS names kids give bud. If it's good bud, they should know what kind of strain it is and some info about it, otherwise you know they are full of shit.

killa-bud- Schwag/Commercial/Mids/Dirt are pretty much all the same thing IMO, while the quality varies from bag to bag usually, it's never realy good quality. I think they are just general terms used for seeded bud that is bad to mediocre in quality. If mids sells for $10 a gram where you are, you need to find new people to buy from.

 

[killa-bud]

no,theres a diffence between shwagg and mids,mids suck, shwagg could ether suck or be really potent,mids is the same,its always headache induceing shit

mids are sold as dro here, i can't find a better dealer because every one here thinks anything called "dro" gets them really high,so its a good deal in there eyes,and if no one complains,well,it gets sold for 10 a gram,and its the same every where,and i don't care cuz i don't buy "mids"

and if you weren't immpressed with the "haze" from new york,you haven't had the "real haze" or as they call it "purple" haze lmao,but it's really good bud...

 

[bounty29]

SweetIndica2 - You seem to categorize your bud differently than a lot of people. Almost everyone I know, you ask them what Scwag, "mersh" (commercial), beasters, mids, headies, etc, they'll tell you they're all different things.

That's about the way it goes too, at least around here.

schwag - bottom of the scale, looks like shit, sometimes smokes good though. Cheap, not too common.

mersh - looks better than scwag, a little more consistent in potency. Usually more green than schwag. more common than schwag

beasters - looks great, high is usually lacking. couchlock stone mainly, priced right up there between mids and headies, not worth it if you can get mids

mids - this is the usual bud that people have. looks good, smokes good, usually sativa type high

headies - taken care of, smokes good, flushed and dried with care, looks great, plenty of trichs.

Sometimes you'll get a named strain around here, people don't throw names around so you know what you're getting. Elvis comes through a few times a year, really expensive though.

I usually go for mids, just because I feel like I get my money's worth. Usually $35/eighth, $200 for an oz. I don't have a problem paying that much, because it lasts quite a while. If you don't want to get blasted you can just take a hit or two and still be quite high, which makes it an economical buy.

 

[killa-bud]

right,i think i might be looking for the word "beasters" describing the bud that people think is "dro"

 

[bounty29]

Every region has their own terms, but most of the time different terms mean different things. SweetIndica2 seems to be lumping them all together, the terms I listed before are just my area, who knows what they mean 500 miles away.

 

[cocktail frank]

no im not joking good buddy.
great pot is called piff around nyc.
most uptown haze comes in ny thru miami or other FL grow ops.
my guess is you never smoked it, you're probably too scared to take your ass to harlem/washington heights to buy some.
but if anybody here has ever had that good uptown piff, they would agree with me.
so please man, don't incinuate that i dont know what im talking about.
let's be honest, you don't know me.
i didn't post something stating that you don't know what your talking about, you obviously just did that for yourself.
half the community here at icmag knows that i know my shit

 

[SweetIndica2]

Do you guys actually believe yourselves? Obviously i know most buds are different, but do you even realize how much BC bud comes around here. I live on the east coast, probably 60-70% of bud sold around here is BC bud AKA Beasters. I have heard people call it everything from Dro, Kindbud, Beasters, BC Bud, etc. Mainly people call it kindbud, but thats what people call it around here. But think for a second, do you think someone who knows what they are talking about and is a real grower are going to call bud kindbud, or dro, etc. No, they are going to call it by the real strain, maybe it's because i only deal with adults and people who have been selling and dealing top grade shit for 20-30 years. The bud i get is either called by a strain, or occasionally when i get big amount of seeded bud, it's called by mids. I don't smoke it often, i'm not an expert on it...i'm just saying what the terminology is around here. People on the east coast will vouch for me, that is the terminology on almost the entire east coast.

The bud that goes through here from random people is either BC Bud, Mids which is always seeded bud, some sucks, some is pretty good. There is some good bud that are named by the strain, but those are only from people i know closely. Honestly, i very rarely see good bud come around loosely, meaning the average person you will never see with good bud around here, very rarely maybe. Look at some of my pics of the bud i get in my reports (i am actually posting 3 more tomorrow). That is mostly what i smoke, so when i buy mids i just buy whatever is around, i don't buy it alot. Sorry if you misunderstood me, i'm not saying these are the exact definitions. I'm just stating what the terminology is around here.

 

[bounty29]

SweetIndica, I don't know what the hell your problem is but you've been making a lot of posts in the past few days that make you sound like a complete ass. We're not idiots here, and I'd say most of us know how to tell the difference between bud.

A lot of the reason people don't know strains around here is because the growers aren't the dealers, and the dealers don't give a fuck. That's why I grow. Just because you have great hookups and know what strain you buy doesn't mean shit.

Around here, if you called beasters (BC Bud) kindbud, you'd be laughed at. Kindbud is just high quality weed that is of an unknown strain, same quality as headies. I really don't think you're in a position to speak for the entire east coast, and I can guarantee you where I am, beasters does not make up 60-70% of bud sold.

 

[Lune TNS]

I'm not gonna lie, it's pretty dumb not to smoke herb just because it doesn't have a name labeled on it. IMO good herb is good herb, with or without a name. That being said, in the NE the "haze" or "pif" that kids talk about is 99% of the time Elvis. It's always the same strain, no matter what people call it, and it's always around in great amounts. I've been NYC and smoked the uptown haze straight outta harlem, and it's the same Elvis that we get farther north.

Around here, all other high quality herbs are called headies. Sometimes they come with a name, sometimes no, but thet are always awesome smokes.

Even way back on OG, I never understood why people got so mad about slang names for bud...

Remember, not everyone is a connoisseur. Now chill, and smoke some piff lol.

Peace and good vibes,
Lune.



edit: Now lets get this thread back on course.