Dwc vs flood and drain. Og, cookies, cheese, amnesia and more...

[hobb3s93]

ya im not planning on going to po anytime soon but i also dont think theyre closing anytime soon so i figure i could get my hands on one of um if i really tried.

i got their chem and this apothcary og that ive flowered once thats super strong stalked and not much strectch i think its kinda of like a bubba og so im just gna stick with these 2 for a while.
cheese looks dank man i love those thick red hairs and crazy calyxs kinda looks like some bomb GC or jack. got any pics of the wax?

 

[Crooked8]

Yeah po will be there ha. Apothecary was not good to me btw not sure how far in you are. Thanks for the kind words this cheese is very unique in person i see what you mean about the gc kinda look. Very different smell and structure. Love me some gc tho when its on point. Heres a shitty batch of the buddha wax. Usually its much lighter almost white. And its flakier and brittle.

 

[hobb3s93]

wow man awesome bho!!! wanna elaborate on ur method? sugar and popcorn only?

i dont have any apothecary in flower right now but im gna put 2 outside ina week or so. but i DONT think shes the apothecary genetics og or w/e. but the one time we flowered her out she was nice. the main reason i made an effort to clone her was her structure during veg but me and her have a while to get to know eachother lol.

how does the cheese yeild? im not sure if i asked u this already but do u run co2?
cheers i cud sure go for a dab right now lol

 

[Crooked8]

wow man awesome bho!!! wanna elaborate on ur method? sugar and popcorn only?

i dont have any apothecary in flower right now but im gna put 2 outside ina week or so. but i DONT think shes the apothecary genetics og or w/e. but the one time we flowered her out she was nice. the main reason i made an effort to clone her was her structure during veg but me and her have a while to get to know eachother lol.

how does the cheese yeild? im not sure if i asked u this already but do u run co2?
cheers i cud sure go for a dab right now lol

The bho usually comes out almost white for the cheese. I only run sugar trim and the little buds if there are any. i use a 200g capacity extraction tube(stainless steel), i only fill it with 4 oz ever and i blast with 4 cans of 300ml 5x tane. Power 5 or better. Once the bho is in a pyrex dish i put it into a hot bath that sits on a skillet at roughly 170-200 degrees. The bho is cold so the bath temps are always below 140. Once all the residual bho has mostly evaporated i hand whip until it becomes very difficult and stuff is beginning to toughen up a lot. Once this is done i remove the material and transfer it to parchment. then i let it air dry for a few days and it usually just turns into dry flakey honeycomb naturally. Lately i have actually waited a day and then i take the parchment and fold it. put that into a bag and then put that bag into a vac seal bag and seal it a few times. this kinda purges the material and it usually makes the consistency more like that of brown sugar(very nice) but the color isnt near as light which i prefer. im learning about people throwing their bho in the oven at 120-160 degrees with great results. this would make my process so much easier. but i need to research how to do it more so it can be done safely and with quality control.

The cheese is my best yielder. Ive gotten nearly 2 per 1k with her. Ive never done as well with anything else. Its been a while since i did a 4x8 of just cheese. i think i could easily get 4lbs out of 2k now. i do not use co2. i did for a while and it was such a pain in the ass and my results were never better. i just crank fresh air constantly. night and day.

 

[Crooked8]

Buddha Cheese vs UK Cheese @ 56 days

Buddha Cheese vs UK Cheese @ 56 days

UK

Buddha

 

[Crooked8]

Fake cookies (what is this?)

Hero Og (no og smell, not a great producer but looks pretty potent)

ECSD

 

[Crooked8]

Amnesia Haze

GDP(so much happier with less intense light and lower ec)

 

[Crooked8]

The og light

The og light

This looks to be my heaviest yield with og ever. The fire seriously explodes in dwc. the quality is insane and the smell is phenomenal. I cant wait to puff these huge tops!

 

[SmokeTrees]

Fat og buds!

 

[Crooked8]

So fat!

 

[BrainSellz]

Very nice!

 

[djslife]

What's up Crooked,

I appreciate the side-by-side comparison. I've always been curious about how the two styles would compare. That OG above looks ridiculously good, haha!

On a serious note, are you totally attached to using the nets as your screen or would you be willing to do another side-by-side using the net v.s. a solid screen using some 2"x3" vinyl or plastic coated fencing? I have a feeling it would make your canopy even better and even out the cola sizes.

Something like this, not necessarily PVC coated, but something to protect the plants from cutting themselves by growing into the plane metal fencing.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/YARDGARD...e-Fence-308382B/202024099?N=c3lp#.UYNr4785Q20

Thanks for posting amigo,

-djslife

 

[Crooked8]

What's up Crooked,

I appreciate the side-by-side comparison. I've always been curious about how the two styles would compare. That OG above looks ridiculously good, haha!

On a serious note, are you totally attached to using the nets as your screen or would you be willing to do another side-by-side using the net v.s. a solid screen using some 2"x3" vinyl or plastic coated fencing? I have a feeling it would make your canopy even better and even out the cola sizes.

Something like this, not necessarily PVC coated, but something to protect the plants from cutting themselves by growing into the plane metal fencing.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/YARDGARD...e-Fence-308382B/202024099?N=c3lp#.UYNr4785Q20

Thanks for posting amigo,

-djslife

Im not opposed to trying anything but the nets have worked well but not flawlessly. I havent seen the stuff you mention implemented in any grows ive seen. Any links to the aforementioned product in use with cannabis? Thanks for the compliment, og took some getting used to for me. But i know her well now

 

[djslife]

Im not opposed to trying anything but the nets have worked well but not flawlessly. I havent seen the stuff you mention implemented in any grows ive seen. Any links to the aforementioned product in use with cannabis? Thanks for the compliment, og took some getting used to for me. But i know her well now

Sick! Alright I was thinking something like Picos' technique, but using a sturdier screen instead of the net.

Here's the link to his DIY:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=50823

I bet it did, but the turn out looks worth it!

Later bro

-djslife

 

[Crooked8]

Oh! I see what youre saying now. I thought u meant the trellis was a different material too i was confused. I already run the same size trellis i just stabilize it differently and more poorly but its due to space issues in the room. My shit is cramped. So cramped i sometimes have to roll on the floor under all the trays and everything with one of those things you get under a car with. I just roll on my stomach it probably looks hilarious. But regardless, adding the pvc could improve things but i think it could make my manuvering more difficult. I did just set up a new permanent non drainable dwc to fill an awkward space and i will be using that exact pvc method. My friends actually do that who taught me the dwc i know. Thanks for the imput its greatly appreciated. As far as other dec vs flood and drain info. The flood and drain with the uneven canopy and all the confusion put put .728 gpw. A little over 3 units. I said i was hoping for three all things considered and i got more. Very thankful. The dwc comes down soon. It looks fat. Im hoping for equal or better yield. Then of course i have barely anything ready for new summer stuff to flip. I gotta get on my perpetual game better. Slacking kills me.

 

[Bonzo]

The Fire looks CHUNKY!!

 

[Crooked8]

Some dried budshots from the DWC
Buddha cheese: more foxtailing and fatter calyx formation and super icy. This strain always is but this time i think its off the charts. more shots later!

Og: turned out amazing as usual

 

[Crooked8]

.73 gpw on the og light. I was so sure id be a lot closer to that gpw range. Those were the healthiest fattest og buds ive ever ran. Still my best yield yet. I guess you get closer to that gpw oz by oz :/ considering it was og im still very pleased. The smoke is amazing. The other light of awkwardness is still tbd as far as numbers. Ill post dry shots of it all soon. Gonna have another side by side up within a month or so. Getting two 4x8s full with my limited veg space is a challenge. Also its summer so the heat sucks ass.

 

[gh0stm0de]

GPW is so very achievable and by the looks of it I think you will be hitting it soon if you keep pushin on with the dwc. (dont get complacent) keep in mind you did not use commercial strains to achieve the yield that you got. OG can do well for sure but point being it's just not a top yielder.. so you did awesome and congrats.. also, looks like even your "smalls/popcorn" (if much/any?) were very good quality ..

effective use of trellis but maybe could you do a little more tying to work closer to your gpw goal? you had a great canopy but maybe if some of those middles were even with the tops (since there is obviously room amongst cola level) they might have gotten a touch more direct light/intensity?



not knockin a thing just constructive thoughts

 

[Crooked8]

GPW is so very achievable and by the looks of it I think you will be hitting it soon if you keep pushin on with the dwc. (dont get complacent) keep in mind you did not use commercial strains to achieve the yield that you got. OG can do well for sure but point being it's just not a top yielder.. so you did awesome and congrats.. also, looks like even your "smalls/popcorn" (if much/any?) were very good quality ..

effective use of trellis but maybe could you do a little more tying to work closer to your gpw goal? you had a great canopy but maybe if some of those middles were even with the tops (since there is obviously room amongst cola level) they might have gotten a touch more direct light/intensity?




not knockin a thing just constructive thoughts

I love all insight and help thanks for commenting. There were a few things that could have gone better. A better canopy. I had to top some terminals two weeks in and that sucked. Im trying jacks tie down method where you run the tops through the trellis like grape vines. It seems to work well. I had barely any small popcorn but i suppose i could have gone harder with the lsr. I know i can do it i just need a more serious game face next time ha. Ill find a way. Im not greedy or id just run pgrs like the million other scumbags out there.