Just curious can duds spread from plant to plant or just from mother to clone? Back in the day I sprayed a plant with colchicine and it permanently ruined the plant and all succeeding generations of cuttings. So if someone passed out cuts from a colchicine treated plant it would grow stunted.
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Just curious can duds spread from plant to plant or just from mother to clone? Back in the day I sprayed a plant with colchicine and it permanently ruined the plant and all succeeding generations of cuttings. So if someone passed out cuts from a colchicine treated plant it would grow stunted.
The math looks right, although I've only used SA in pro-mix and amended organic soil. I don't use it every time, usually two out of three waterings or feedings get it.
exactly.
I know i have read in SDF that you can clone a strain out of a dud state.. If it is nematodes causing those duds it would make sense that taking many tops as clones might cleanse symptoms in a few cuttings that hadn't been infiltrated yet.
sdf?
i think this would be possible too to some degree but the process of trial and error would require a clean isolated testing room. but seeing as how they can lie dormant it seems like a challange to know 100%
im goint to try microtip tissue culture on a known dud in september. itll be a looooong time before im able to tell if it worked but it seems like it could in a really tall fast growing cut to take just the apical meristems in a hot dry room.
i think this would be possible too to some degree but the process of trial and error would require a clean isolated testing room. but seeing as how they can lie dormant it seems like a challange to know 100%
im goint to try microtip tissue culture on a known dud in september. itll be a looooong time before im able to tell if it worked but it seems like it could in a really tall fast growing cut to take just the apical meristems in a hot dry room.
Take my opinion for what you think it is worth but you cannot give a healthy plant witth good mineral and enzyme levels a disease. What I see on the duds is...maybe I should say is I think I see...is some serious ca and b shotages...the weak floppy stems. That sets off a chain reaction...think mulders chart or nova crop controls work.
Low ca leads to high mg and k. High mg leads to low nitrate by forming chlorophyll...dark leaves. Low nitrate leads to high P, especially when combined with pk boosters. High p ties up zn which produces small leaves.
Weak brittle stems and small leaves.
Like I said take it fot what you think it is worth
Low ca leads to high mg and k. High mg leads to low nitrate by forming chlorophyll...dark leaves. Low nitrate leads to high P, especially when combined with pk boosters. High p ties up zn which produces small leaves.
Weak brittle stems and small leaves.
Like I said take it fot what you think it is worth
San Diego's Finest, where this whole dud phenom first showed it's ugly face.
not true in a lot of other pathogens why do you think it would not work in this case. if you left the bug behind in a micro clone from an uninhabitable part of the plant it could in theory work i would think, why not?i think you dont understand this problem. its been shown over and over in your posts that you are blind to parts of the story that dont fit your hypothesis. you sound intelligent and your understanding of plants seems solid but for some reason it seems like you need this to fit some sort of larger theory you have about growing. not trying to disrespect you but im baffled by some of your theories. the stories get kinda changed as they translate through your posts. ive said this before and you were really offended and i retracted my statement but its getting harder and harder to not see this. calling out repetitive misunderstandings of the facts isa not oppressive anti science behavior, quite the opposite its called peer review in a very rudimentary way being practices in a forum discussion.
seriously. is it just me or are you trying to prove something else entirely. you may be on to something with some of your posts. i agree with a lot of them but every time you get going it all goes back to this lack of acceptance of what folks are reporting. its like you wont see it even if its right in your face, which it is.
what more do you need. i mean sure it is possible that these bugs are not the culprit and we are on the wrong track. but logic and reason are drawing some pretty strong conclusions that i think are reasonable. not seeing the nematodes as the culprit is pretty far fetched compared to them being the cause.
why is that so weird to think a new bug to this community that is known to cause major issues in plants is causing the new problem in the plants that have had them found in.
to assume otherwise is fishing unless you find proof otherwise. to reserve a healthy inquisitive skepticism until 100 % proof is gathered is one thing, but you seem in denial of the pretty substantial evidence. every time we get a little closer you are like "wait i think its nutritional and cut placement too".
maybe it is. but if true its caused by the duds and nutritional and cutting orientation are going to get you nowhere and are irrelevant til you eliminate the pest. at which point the nutritional and cutting placement will be the same non issue it was before the pest.
kinda like deficiencies from root aphids
yes those plants are deficient but feeding them wont help.you gotta eliminate the bug. then you wont need to correct the nute issue it will disappear.
yes you may be right but the deficiency seems caused by the plants innability to get these nutes from the nematode damage. not the other way around. and very very healthy plants can indeed get diseases. they can be more or less suceptiple sure but totally immune? thats fantasy. many healthy plants cant outcompete certain pests,
i dont care how healthy your collard greens are they wont withstand a heavy deer infestation.
well said str8.
duc, you said you'd stop. just stop, whether or not you realize it... you're a troll in this thread.
you just wrote an essay to make the point "big plants with strong stems do better than shitty plants with thin stems." well fuckin duh. this has nothing to do with that.
duc, you said you'd stop. just stop, whether or not you realize it... you're a troll in this thread.
you just wrote an essay to make the point "big plants with strong stems do better than shitty plants with thin stems." well fuckin duh. this has nothing to do with that.
I don't want you to respond with more mouth garbage. Just clarifying my theory on why sometimes they only hit certain branches.
Ya got me
no im not im contending the notion that eating well and working out will make you unable to get heart disease which it wont.
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