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Dual Hose A/C

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Tom 'Green' Thumb
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Skylined, the dimensions of the unit (foot-print) is about 2 feet wide by 3 feet back. This unit is fairly large compared to most models and what makes it even larger is that it comes with an external condensation tank. So when the internal tank fills up it starts a pump which takes all the water out and into the external tank. It can then be easily emptied without having to move the AC. This is very handy because some models you have to physically move around to get the tank out. Not having to move it makes it easy to keep the hoses and joints from loosening or coming unattached.

Dontstepongrass, the size of the room it is cooling is 18 feet by 12 feet. It is a rather large room and it still cools great. I think if it was smaller it wouldn't cool as well.

DigitalHippy, I know it seems strange that it works so well and I didn't think it was going to at all. After hooking it up and letting it run a few hot days I was amazed. Recently we had a heat spell here and the temperatures outside were in the low 90's and the basement grow didn't get any higher than 85 degree's celcius. I take the temperature at the top third section of the plants and at about 3 feet from the light. I am sure it is hotter closer to the bulbs, but they are doing wonderfully and show no signs of heat stress at all. Don't get me wrong, the room is no where in the optimal range, but I think the temps in the mid 80's is very acceptable. Around 72 would be perfect, but that temperature I will never achieve.

I think the reason it cools so well is because the grow is located in a cool basement that is fairly deep underground. Also, the ceilings are about 9 feet high so the hot air has a long way up allowing the bottom half to be fairly cool. Also, I positioned the fans so that they take the cool air from down low and blow it upward so that it falls back down on the plants. Finally, I think a big factor in the room keeping cool is that it is very large in comparison to the actual grow. If the room were smaller the lights would heat it up like an oven, but with it being large and tall the heat can be mixed with the cool air down low and even out the temperatures overall. I think these are the reasons, at least that my hypotheses. I too would have never believed it would cool 5000 watts not air cooled, without seeing it with my own eyes.

Before I set up the room I thought to make it work I would have to air cool the lights. I actually purchased 5 air cooled hoods to be used on this specific room and I didn't even need to use them. I guess it's not really a waste because I will eventually find some use for them, but a pain to spend the money now when things are tight for me.

One last thing, I think the mini split AC's are an excellent choice. They are much more expensive and a pain to set up, but they are the very best for use with Co2 because no air leaks from them like other AC designs. I have read about them quite a bit and it seems some are a pain to set up. The problem is not drilling the hole, it's connecting the pipes because they have to be filled with refrigerant after they have been connected. There is a specific make that is extremely expensive, but they are units you can do yourself without an AC guy. They are easy because they have the pipes pre-charged and after connecting everything don't need to be filled. I can't rmember the manufactures name, but I am sure somone on here will know it.

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DIGITALHIPPY

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TGT said:
Skylined, the dimensions of the unit (foot-print) is about 2 feet wide by 3 feet back. This unit is fairly large compared to most models and what makes it even larger is that it comes with an external condensation tank. So when the internal tank fills up it starts a pump which takes all the water out and into the external tank. It can then be easily emptied without having to move the AC. This is very handy because some models you have to physically move around to get the tank out. Not having to move it makes it easy to keep the hoses and joints from loosening or coming unattached.

Dontstepongrass, the size of the room it is cooling is 18 feet by 12 feet. It is a rather large room and it still cools great. I think if it was smaller it wouldn't cool as well.

DigitalHippy, I know it seems strange that it works so well and I didn't think it was going to at all. After hooking it up and letting it run a few hot days I was amazed. Recently we had a heat spell here and the temperatures outside were in the low 90's and the basement grow didn't get any higher than 85 degree's celcius. I take the temperature at the top third section of the plants and at about 3 feet from the light. I am sure it is hotter closer to the bulbs, but they are doing wonderfully and show no signs of heat stress at all. Don't get me wrong, the room is no where in the optimal range, but I think the temps in the mid 80's is very acceptable. Around 72 would be perfect, but that temperature I will never achieve.

I think the reason it cools so well is because the grow is located in a cool basement that is fairly deep underground. Also, the ceilings are about 9 feet high so the hot air has a long way up allowing the bottom half to be fairly cool. Also, I positioned the fans so that they take the cool air from down low and blow it upward so that it falls back down on the plants. Finally, I think a big factor in the room keeping cool is that it is very large in comparison to the actual grow. If the room were smaller the lights would heat it up like an oven, but with it being large and tall the heat can be mixed with the cool air down low and even out the temperatures overall. I think these are the reasons, at least that my hypotheses. I too would have never believed it would cool 5000 watts not air cooled, without seeing it with my own eyes.

Before I set up the room I thought to make it work I would have to air cool the lights. I actually purchased 5 air cooled hoods to be used on this specific room and I didn't even need to use them. I guess it's not really a waste because I will eventually find some use for them, but a pain to spend the money now when things are tight for me.

One last thing, I think the mini split AC's are an excellent choice. They are much more expensive and a pain to set up, but they are the very best for use with Co2 because no air leaks from them like other AC designs. I have read about them quite a bit and it seems some are a pain to set up. The problem is not drilling the hole, it's connecting the pipes because they have to be filled with refrigerant after they have been connected. There is a specific make that is extremely expensive, but they are units you can do yourself without an AC guy. They are easy because they have the pipes pre-charged and after connecting everything don't need to be filled. I can't rmember the manufactures name, but I am sure somone on here will know it.

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seen theos units too, somthing with an X.... excelsior?
anyways i think ur lucky with the basement and thats ur sweetspot, the cool earth helping u out... i get a 105F west wall to contend with...
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my unit dosent cool the room, except for night, it merely keeps it a reasonable 84-90F...
i done some 'cold-room' grows (65 dayand night, then again at 75) and find yield suffers alot, and the plants grow faster with it around 85 +/-4F
 

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