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DTOG And MARS HYDRO LED (on a Blue Star S1 Grow Spree)
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Overall this has been a really decent run. First time using an LED of this type. To show what it would really be like for a beginner. I didn't do anything with the plants. Plucked some fan leaves and that's it. Put the plants in the tent and let them do their thing.
These have another week to go. Then I'll empty it and reload. Can't decide if I wanna make seeds next run, or flip some seed plants to hunt the keepers. I have enough time before spring to do both. Knowing the seedlines I have going(lordofthenugz710 and People Under the Stairs) more than likely all the plants could be keepers. Only one way to find out, lol.
These have another week to go. Then I'll empty it and reload. Can't decide if I wanna make seeds next run, or flip some seed plants to hunt the keepers. I have enough time before spring to do both. Knowing the seedlines I have going(lordofthenugz710 and People Under the Stairs) more than likely all the plants could be keepers. Only one way to find out, lol.
Looks great! I just ordered some midnight mass. Top Dawg and connoisseur genetics look promising for haze types also.
BuckeyeGreen
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DTOG what is your soil mix? I know you said it was recycled and depleted but I’d like to know what is your starting point. If I started with a plain pro mix would the 1/4 teaspoon Jack’s 10-20-30 work? Thanks for the helpful grow diary.
No. You'd have to bump it up to half teaspoon or higher. Depending on what the plants like. I grow in pure Happy Frog and I use the Happy Frog fruit and flower dry amendment , at 1/4 cup per gallon of soil.
BuckeyeGreen
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Thanks for the advice. When you make a fresh batch of soil for your plants do also use the Jack’s with that fresh batch of soil?
I use the Jack's from about a week after seeds come up. Until flowering week 8-10 depending on what I have in flower.
Here we are at 9.5 weeks into flower. The "Mayberry #1 and #2 gave me 28 and 21 grams. Not bad for not doing a single thing to them in flower. Harlem Diesel , Holy Communion and Blue Star S1 (RKS Pheno) all look to be 10 week plants. The "Sativa RKS" shows no end in sight, lol. All white pistils still. Prolly gonna bring that into my other flower room. So I can flip these Sour D x Sour D for a seed making run.
Here's the Harlem and Holy. Harlem is the big baseball bat cola.
Here's the Harlem and Holy. Harlem is the big baseball bat cola.
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Then here we go !!! Best seed plant I've found the past 2 years. Blue Star S1 - RKS pheno. The thing stinks so hard-core. I squeezed a bud for a smell and it made me gag. I can't wait to smoke this stuff.
BuckeyeGreen
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Thanks. I was impressed with your results and I have a similar tent but I do need to upgrade my lights. I have older Mars lights that are probably now good for veg. I like a simple, easy to follow grow that gets nice results like yours. I think I’ll pick up some Happy Frog and some Jack’s flowering fertilizer and do a grow with that combo. I’m also an avid home gardener and I have used all purpose Jack’s in my garden for years and would never use any other fertilizer. I’ve always had great results.
Thanks again for your help and I’m happy for you that you found some really nice plants this grow.
BuckeyeGreen
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Look forward to the smoke report.
I did a side-by-side a few years back. I think its in the Whorehouse thread(if not it's in the bunny ranch) . Used Advanced PH Perfect 2 part and Jacks. Same cut, same pot size. The Jacks plant was better in every category.
Wednesday is 10 weeks. Only snagged 2 pics this morning. Harlem Diesel and a group shot.
The Harlem Diesel, Holy Communion , and Blue Star S1 RKS all come down on Wednesday. The one on the far left(Blue Star S1 Sativa RKS), that's gonna go into the flower room I have. So I can load this tent up with Sour x Sour teens. Whole lotta seeds coming.
The Harlem Diesel, Holy Communion , and Blue Star S1 RKS all come down on Wednesday. The one on the far left(Blue Star S1 Sativa RKS), that's gonna go into the flower room I have. So I can load this tent up with Sour x Sour teens. Whole lotta seeds coming.
BuckeyeGreen
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The Harem Diesel looks nice.
I went to the Fox Farm site to do a little research on their products. First I went to my local garden center and picked up a bag of the Happy Frog potting soil but they didn’t have the fruit and flower fertilizer. Then I went to the Fox Farm site. I was surprised at the amount of fruit and flower fertilizer it recommended. First a couple of tablespoons per gallon initially. Then after 3 to 4 weeks it recommended 1 cup for 1-2 foot tall plants per month, top feed and scratch in. Then 1.5 cups per month for 2-3 foot tall plants. 2 cups per month for 3-5 foot tall plants and then 3 cups per month for 5 foot tall pants.
I plan on growing 4 plants this grow and a 4 lbs. bag of the fruit and flower has 11 cups. I’d probably need at least 3, 4 lbs. bags to finish the grow if I use just the fruit and flower. I’d like to try an all Happy Frog type grow just to determine if that gives good results. I’d really like to yield at least 3 ozs. dry per plant.
Yield is important to me because I don’t want to grow year round. I plan on a final pot size of 3 gallons and if I need to use a bigger pot in order to obtain the yields I’d like then I will.
So many options and I’m still trying to decide which way to go but the Happy Frog all organic method is appealing. Like I said Jack’s has many great products and I know you weren’t growing for yield this grow but it is a priority for me. Any help to get the yields I hope to get would be appreciated. Thanks again for all of your help.
I went to the Fox Farm site to do a little research on their products. First I went to my local garden center and picked up a bag of the Happy Frog potting soil but they didn’t have the fruit and flower fertilizer. Then I went to the Fox Farm site. I was surprised at the amount of fruit and flower fertilizer it recommended. First a couple of tablespoons per gallon initially. Then after 3 to 4 weeks it recommended 1 cup for 1-2 foot tall plants per month, top feed and scratch in. Then 1.5 cups per month for 2-3 foot tall plants. 2 cups per month for 3-5 foot tall plants and then 3 cups per month for 5 foot tall pants.
I plan on growing 4 plants this grow and a 4 lbs. bag of the fruit and flower has 11 cups. I’d probably need at least 3, 4 lbs. bags to finish the grow if I use just the fruit and flower. I’d like to try an all Happy Frog type grow just to determine if that gives good results. I’d really like to yield at least 3 ozs. dry per plant.
Yield is important to me because I don’t want to grow year round. I plan on a final pot size of 3 gallons and if I need to use a bigger pot in order to obtain the yields I’d like then I will.
So many options and I’m still trying to decide which way to go but the Happy Frog all organic method is appealing. Like I said Jack’s has many great products and I know you weren’t growing for yield this grow but it is a priority for me. Any help to get the yields I hope to get would be appreciated. Thanks again for all of your help.
I don't follow the instructions, lol. I mix the 1/4 - 1/2 cup into the soil , making sure to distribute it as evenly as possible. If you're using fresh Happy Frog , you could prolly get away with water only. So adding the dry amendment is only gonna help that process along. Leaves start lightening up in color. You'll know you didn't use enough. I always err on the side of less is more. It's easy to add stuff to the soil or use a little bit of food. But if you go overboard. Plants might not recover. And it's a chore to flush the extra stuff out of the soil. In my experience anyways.
Few pics of the Holy Communion.
BuckeyeGreen
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I’m more of rule follower in a case when I don’t know what the hell I’m doing when it comes to product I’ve never used. I figure they know a helluva lot more than I do. Yeah they maybe trying to get you to use more product than you need but that would be a pretty dumb long term sales strategy if the stuff produced really bad results. I definitely wouldn’t be buying any of their stuff in the future if that turned out to be the case.
I did want to ask you if you put your young veg. plants into the Happy Frog? In the past I read something about Fox Farm soils where people said certain soils were too hot for young plants but that was a long time ago and I don’t remember which soils they were talking about.
I did want to ask you if you put your young veg. plants into the Happy Frog? In the past I read something about Fox Farm soils where people said certain soils were too hot for young plants but that was a long time ago and I don’t remember which soils they were talking about.
That'd be Ocean Forest you're thinking of. I drop fresh rooted cuts in Happy Frog. Usually seeds don't go in HF until they're at least 2 weeks old. But.....I have started seeds directly in Happy Frog with good results.
BuckeyeGreen
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