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Drug possession charges dropped across Ontario at an unprecedented rate

tobedetermined

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From CBC News

"In the past 12 months, courts across Ontario have withdrawn or stayed 85 per cent of drug possession charges in the system before they ever reached trial . . . "

"Across Ontario, there are significant differences in how many drug possession cases are dropped.

In busy courthouses like Barrie, Brampton and Hamilton, nearly all possession charges were dropped. But in others, like Thunder Bay, the rates barely changed . . ."

"Prior to the election, the federal government introduced a bill that would erase mandatory minimum sentences for drug possession charges" (Remember this last one in the voting booth. Don't elect the party of no!)
 

troutman

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To me, unless somebody is dealing on a huge scale it's a total waste of resources to process personal
Cannabis charges. They should focus on hard drugs or other illegal activity and leave Cannabis alone.
 

Cuddles

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To me, unless somebody is dealing on a huge scale it's a total waste of resources to process personal
Cannabis charges. They should focus on hard drugs or other illegal activity and leave Cannabis alone.

My opinion also - since always (or since I learned that weed is actually a medicine) :)
 

f-e

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Good to see the courts saying they are too busy for petty policy breaches. It sounds like a fixed penalty offense to me. No court room should be looking at possession, when it's really that simply. Possession/amount=fine or court for being a dick about paying it.
 

troutman

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I see junkies downtown all the time who harass people for money and that's the kind of thing the piggies should deal with.
 

Tynehead Tom

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From CBC News

"In the past 12 months, courts across Ontario have withdrawn or stayed 85 per cent of drug possession charges in the system before they ever reached trial . . . "

"Across Ontario, there are significant differences in how many drug possession cases are dropped.

In busy courthouses like Barrie, Brampton and Hamilton, nearly all possession charges were dropped. But in others, like Thunder Bay, the rates barely changed . . ."

"Prior to the election, the federal government introduced a bill that would erase mandatory minimum sentences for drug possession charges" (Remember this last one in the voting booth. Don't elect the party of no!)

and which party is the party of NO?
Those drug posession charges being dropped aren\t for weed they are for all the shitty drugs that are killing people everyday.
Trudeau is a dumb fuck china loving marxist who is destroying this country's future with every day he holds office

if you are voting for the liberals or jagmeets NDP you are truly a fucking moron.
Trudeau belongs in fucking prison or worse and that';s why everywhere he goes right now he is being run off and back to his fucking bus


junkies and their dealers are getting off scott free in our courts and people are okay with that?
Lock em up, give em rehab as a mandatory condition and then maybe some of them can actually get their lives back and get proper treatment for the issues that drove them to be junkies in the first place. Harm reduction in canada is a joke and is doing more harm to canadian families than it is doing one shred of good.
 

Great outdoors

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and which party is the party of NO?
Those drug posession charges being dropped aren\t for weed they are for all the shitty drugs that are killing people everyday.
Trudeau is a dumb fuck china loving marxist who is destroying this country's future with every day he holds office

if you are voting for the liberals or jagmeets NDP you are truly a fucking moron.
Trudeau belongs in fucking prison or worse and that';s why everywhere he goes right now he is being run off and back to his fucking bus


junkies and their dealers are getting off scott free in our courts and people are okay with that?
Lock em up, give em rehab as a mandatory condition and then maybe some of them can actually get their lives back and get proper treatment for the issues that drove them to be junkies in the first place. Harm reduction in canada is a joke and is doing more harm to canadian families than it is doing one shred of good.

Funny, people used to say the same things about weed. Do you think they were correct? Because they were pretty self righteous and sure of themselves too.

Also pretty hard to vote for a party stuck in the dark ages that denies climate change is real.

And just to throw it out there. What exactly has Trudeau done that deserves prison or worse? Not my favorite guy but fail to see the crimes here.
 

Tynehead Tom

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What besides Trudeau's ethics violations?

Here’s an incomplete list:

- His minister of finance engaged in insider trading – should be a 10-year sentence.

- He blew the Asia Pacific deal.

- He blew the helicopter deal with the Philippines.

- He blew the pipeline deal (he's now trying to save himself from it).

- He blew the deal with China.

- He blew the deal with Europe.

- He invited "irregular" immigration into Canada and the taxpayer foots the enormous bill for it.

- He has alienated the United States – our largest trading partner.

- At the G7 He pledged $400 million to Education around the world along with another $180 million to the Global Partnership for Education in Europe. None of it is going to fix our messed up school systems here at home. Meanwhile, education costs are skyrocketing for our youth making university a mountain too high for many to climb.

- He pledged $241 million to Family Planning around the world including a $20 million donation to the Bill and Hillary Clinton Foundation (because they have integrity!). This all happened while he told veterans that they were asking for too much.

- He pledged $2.65 billion to climate change at the Commonwealth Leaders Summit and now he's trying to bully the provinces into new taxes to pay for this pledge.

- He pledged $300 million to the Rohingya Refugee crisis while we have a refugee crisis of our own flooding into Quebec that He won't address.

- He pledged $125 million to Caribbean Reconstruction while our own infrastructure in cities is falling apart.

- He pledged $650 million to Sexual and Reproductive health in Haiti and around the globe wanting safer abortions for women while many women in our own country are left without a family doctor.

- He pledged $50 million to Palestine for flood relief when New Brunswick had some of the worst floods in decades this past spring.

- He pledged $840 million to Syria for Humanitarian Assistance when half the native reserves in our country don't have clean drinking water.

- He gave $10.5 million to a convicted...CONVICTED terrorist in a backroom deal that has led to another $30.8 million paid out for three others who say they were wrongfully detained and his Liberal party payments to the media have kept this out of the press.

- He spent $4.5 billion on a 65-year-old pipeline, and now the courts have ruled it shut down. Now it's back on (at a delay cost of $250 million) - a good investment for Canada He said? (And KM uses that money to build a pipeline in Texas)

- He pressured Jody Wilson Raybould repeatedly & INAPPROPRIATELY with several different high ranking officials to offer SNC Lavalin a DPA instead of prosecution for repeated & sustained corruption AFTER the former AG had determined they were ineligible for such a deal. He lied about the above having ever taken place.

- He replaced Canada’s old F-18s with Australia’s old F-18s.

- His bizarre love of all things Castro and his admiration for the Chinese Communist Party

- He imposed tough regulations and taxes on oil from Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Newfoundland but not oil from Saudi Arabia.

- Every new project has to undergo strict environmental assessments...except cement plants in Quebec.

- He said that a proposed pipeline must consider “the intersection of sex and gender with other identity factors” (what does that even mean???)

- He thinks older Canadians should be replaced. How is -that moral?

- He is chasing foreign companies (and their investment capital) out of the country like they have the plague.

- He chased our WW1 soldiers out of our national anthem... lest we forget.

- He continuously uses identity politics...then complains about identity politics.

- He forgot Alberta was a province.

- He called small business owners “tax cheats”.

- People voice concern over money spent on illegal immigration and he called them intolerant racists.

- We have an equalization program, but he gives half of it to one province..... Quebec

- He spent $8 million on a skating rink (vanity project) when Canada's largest skating rink is 500 meters -away.

- He added tens of billions to the national debt while lying to Canada's face about it.

- He groped a woman and when caught - laughed about it (MacLean's interview) and said she experienced it differently.

- He elbowed a female MP while dragging another MP by the arm in a petulant huff.

- He renamed Fishermen to "Fisher-folk"

- People kind? (international embarrassment)

- He got India to invest $250 million in Canada but we have to invest $750 million in India first.

- He compared returning ISIS terrorists to Italian immigrants and said they will be an extraordinarily powerful voice for Canada.

- He let terrorists keep their Canadian citizenship.

- He spent $212,234 on the artwork for the cover of the 2017 budget report.

- He thinks Canada is 100 years old instead of 150.

- He spent upwards to $348,000 on food and alcohol in five flights on our government’s plane. On his G20 trip to Argentina, he spent $103,000 on food and alcohol alone. How is that even possible?

- He gave Canadian taxpayers' money to Hamas.

- He voices outrage over fake racist attacks and say nothing about real terrorist attacks.

- He took 10 vacations in a single year. Who does this??

- He spent a little over $1.5 million on the trip to India that did nothing but worsen ties. Plus paid over $17,000 to bring an Indian chef to India to cook Indian cuisine And to top it off, invited a convicted attempted assassin to a dinner and posed for pics with him.

- He is the only PM convicted of ethics violations. (multiple times in fact)

- He allegedly destroyed the career of one of Canada’s honest military leaders to cover up possible massive government corruption in shipbuilding contracts.

- He invited Joshua Boyle, an alleged perpetrator of sexual assault and unlawful confinement for a photoshoot in the Office of the Prime Minister.

- He threatened to sue the leader of the opposition then chickened out when He realized that his own alleged crimes would be exposed in court.

- He offers over $600 million dollars in subsidies to failing mainstream media outlets if they can prove to be trustworthy. He put a union who vows to destroy his opposition in charge of selecting these new “trusted” sources to receive funding. He could school the Russians in election interference. LOL

- He paid off his friends to engage in election ads for him and get Elections Canada to pay for it.

- $200 million to Loblaws for new refrigerators.

- He made public statements of deep admiration for Chinese communism.

- He wore preposterous, inappropriate costumes during a state visit to India, paid for by Canadians and tanked our relations with the Indian Government.

- He was instrumental in handing WE almost $1 billion for work that could be done by regular already established operations...His mother and brother received over $300,000 from WE for short speeches that normally do not receive payment.

- He have been instrumental in allowing a company with strong communist party ties to perform communications and security work with our embassies.

and the list goes on.
Feel free to fact check.... it's been done and verified.
The guy is the most corrupt prime minister in the history of Canada, period.
 

Great outdoors

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Wow your hate runs deep to type all that out. Great reasons to vote for someone else if these are your opinions, and yes a lot of what you wrote is opinion.
But I far from see an indictable offense there, let alone prison time or Worse.
What is worse? Are we going all in with the treason and death talk?
 

Tynehead Tom

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the list was cut and pasted from another forum I frequent and is not opinions...... everything on that list is FACTUAL , meaning TRUE , meaning Not someone's opinion but instead is Reality.
Treason? yes I think Trudeau is absolutely guilty of treason...... Death talk? WTF are you smoking? Who is talking about death? Typical dodge and evade and point to smoke when there is no fire.

Trudeau is a scumbag, just like all liberals before him. His father fucked this country right up with his politics of division between english and french speaking canadians.... still goes on to this day.
Liberals and the CBC are pounding the conservatives on the Gun's are a threat to all candians topic when really, the opiod crisis is the biggest threat to canadian families..... how many will die today? tomorrow?
Open your eyes people..... unless you want our country to end up like venezuela or worse, communist china
During the worst global economic recession since the grest recession, the conservative party managed a 55 billion dollar deficit and then balanced the budget within 5 years of that. Keeping Canada isolated from the economic doom that occured in many nations around the world. Look at how Trudeau is managing financial crisis..... he's not, he is just doling out money to Canadians, convincing young would be workers to sit at home on their ass and collect from the government. He is spending 100's of millions of dollars more every day than our country actually makes in Gross National Product..... where is that free money coming from? Who will have to pay it back? Our children and their children...... but who cares right? I dunno about everyone else reading this but I have 2 sons in their 30's struggling to make ends meet, paying huge rent with shitty landlords and they will never be able to afford to buy a home to raise a family in. Trudeau wants to tax my home equity and he wants to tax the inheritance I hope to leave for my boys to give them a leg up in life...... not under trudeau.
And then let's talk about Trudeau's Great Reset , cooked up by the high and mighty at the Davos summit..... Own Nothing, Be Happy........ No fuckin thanx. Bunch of Marxist commie fucks. Not in my Canada.
 

Great outdoors

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and which party is the party of NO?
Those drug posession charges being dropped aren\t for weed they are for all the shitty drugs that are killing people everyday.



junkies and their dealers are getting off scott free in our courts and people are okay with that?
Lock em up, give em rehab as a mandatory condition and then maybe some of them can actually get their lives back and get proper treatment for the issues that drove them to be junkies in the first place. Harm reduction in canada is a joke and is doing more harm to canadian families than it is doing one shred of good.


This is your solution to the opioid crisis?

So what's Worse than prison then? Torture?
 

Great outdoors

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the list was cut and pasted from another forum I frequent and is not opinions...... everything on that list is FACTUAL , meaning TRUE , meaning Not someone's opinion but instead is Reality.
Treason? yes I think Trudeau is absolutely guilty of treason...... Death talk? WTF are you smoking? Who is talking about death? Typical dodge and evade and point to smoke when there is no fire.

Trudeau is a scumbag, just like all liberals before him. His father fucked this country right up with his politics of division between english and french speaking canadians.... still goes on to this day.
Liberals and the CBC are pounding the conservatives on the Gun's are a threat to all candians topic when really, the opiod crisis is the biggest threat to canadian families..... how many will die today? tomorrow?
Open your eyes people..... unless you want our country to end up like venezuela or worse, communist china
During the worst global economic recession since the grest recession, the conservative party managed a 55 billion dollar deficit and then balanced the budget within 5 years of that. Keeping Canada isolated from the economic doom that occured in many nations around the world. Look at how Trudeau is managing financial crisis..... he's not, he is just doling out money to Canadians, convincing young would be workers to sit at home on their ass and collect from the government. He is spending 100's of millions of dollars more every day than our country actually makes in Gross National Product..... where is that free money coming from? Who will have to pay it back? Our children and their children...... but who cares right? I dunno about everyone else reading this but I have 2 sons in their 30's struggling to make ends meet, paying huge rent with shitty landlords and they will never be able to afford to buy a home to raise a family in. Trudeau wants to tax my home equity and he wants to tax the inheritance I hope to leave for my boys to give them a leg up in life...... not under trudeau.
And then let's talk about Trudeau's Great Reset , cooked up by the high and mighty at the Davos summit..... Own Nothing, Be Happy........ No fuckin thanx. Bunch of Marxist commie fucks. Not in my Canada.

Or maybe like another western socialist country like Sweden. Oh but they have such a low standard of living there.
Getting rid of inheritance would be awesome. Then everyone would start off on the same foot to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
I didn't need any inheritance to be successful in life, did you?
 

Cuddles

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the list was cut and pasted from another forum I frequent and is not opinions...... everything on that list is FACTUAL , meaning TRUE , meaning Not someone's opinion but instead is Reality.
Treason? yes I think Trudeau is absolutely guilty of treason...... Death talk? WTF are you smoking? Who is talking about death? Typical dodge and evade and point to smoke when there is no fire.

Trudeau is a scumbag, just like all liberals before him. His father fucked this country right up with his politics of division between english and french speaking canadians.... still goes on to this day.
Liberals and the CBC are pounding the conservatives on the Gun's are a threat to all candians topic when really, the opiod crisis is the biggest threat to canadian families..... how many will die today? tomorrow?
Open your eyes people..... unless you want our country to end up like venezuela or worse, communist china
During the worst global economic recession since the grest recession, the conservative party managed a 55 billion dollar deficit and then balanced the budget within 5 years of that. Keeping Canada isolated from the economic doom that occured in many nations around the world. Look at how Trudeau is managing financial crisis..... he's not, he is just doling out money to Canadians, convincing young would be workers to sit at home on their ass and collect from the government. He is spending 100's of millions of dollars more every day than our country actually makes in Gross National Product..... where is that free money coming from? Who will have to pay it back? Our children and their children...... but who cares right? I dunno about everyone else reading this but I have 2 sons in their 30's struggling to make ends meet, paying huge rent with shitty landlords and they will never be able to afford to buy a home to raise a family in. Trudeau wants to tax my home equity and he wants to tax the inheritance I hope to leave for my boys to give them a leg up in life...... not under trudeau.
And then let's talk about Trudeau's Great Reset , cooked up by the high and mighty at the Davos summit..... Own Nothing, Be Happy........ No fuckin thanx. Bunch of Marxist commie fucks. Not in my Canada.

well, I read an online article which said that he´s on shaky ground. So maybe he´ll be gone soon.
But the question, and it is one I am asking myself right now over where I am living is:will the next people in charge be any better or will things get even worse?
 

tobedetermined

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will the next people in charge be any better or will things get even worse?

They are all the same. It doesn't matter what party or what country even, they are all politicians. In Canada, we tend to give a party a free reign for a while until we get sick of them & then we switch to another. Repeat this cycle endlessly. No different than anywhere else.
 

Cuddles

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They are all the same. It doesn't matter what party or what country even, they are all politicians. In Canada, we tend to give a party a free reign for a while until we get sick of them & then we switch to another. Repeat this cycle endlessly. No different than anywhere else.

very true in so many ways! But sometimes one party is indeed even worse than the other :( oh and they all lie or are openly against legalizing weed too...
 

tobedetermined

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very true in so many ways! But sometimes one party is indeed even worse than the other :( oh and they all lie or are openly against legalizing weed too...

We got lucky with when our current PM wanted to get elected his first time. He promised to legalize mj. And much to our delight he actually followed through with his promise. The other major party would have put it into committee for another 20 years but he had a majority and jammed it through - which, of course, greatly helped him with election #2. Now he is facing #3 but he no longer has the MJ allure. :rasta:
 

Switcher56

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After seeing the rhetoric of the "antivaxers" on the trail, which every leaders has condemned. I find it amusing an individual posting here of all places, failed to mention that accomplishment. I'll paint him for what he is.
 
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