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'DP' 'The Ultimate' - 'NFT SCROG'
- Thread starter Scrogerman
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Hey Mean & Shhh,
Yeah at least the product was a sound one in the end! & flavour overall is good too, so i'm kinda happy ish! Here's a few more pics! see you round all!
G'Luck Everyone! Peace & Happy Growing!............Scroger!
Yeah at least the product was a sound one in the end! & flavour overall is good too, so i'm kinda happy ish! Here's a few more pics! see you round all!
G'Luck Everyone! Peace & Happy Growing!............Scroger!
Roortokeage
Member
looking great man,. NICE !! Cant wait to get me plants there
doughlerman
New member
Hey scrogerman. im freaking a newb so far. i grew some easyryder and some ak-47 frum joint doctor and nirvana so far. my easyryder turnt out ok and my ak didnt do so bad itself. ikno these are easy strains to grow. so i was looking forward to grow something a little better in quality with an ok yeild. i was going to grow some of this "The Ultimate". wud yu reccomend i try this strain? i only have around 900-1000 watts of CFL. if so what nutes would you reccomend? And im happy to see yours actually turnt out ok as well! so sounded very disappointed lol
Hey Roor,
'Yeah it was'nt too bad in the end & im reasonably satisfied man! It could of been alot better though, but all is good! Cheers for following along man! Im sure your ladies will soon be there bro;')
Hey Doughlerman,
Well buddy it all depends what you want man! if you want top quality genetics i advise you 'Not' to buy 'The Ultimate', But this was just my own experience/opinion of it, it may be completely different for you/someone else, i aint done enough with it to preach wright/wrong with this strain. I do believe it has great potential, but i wont waste my money on it again. Its quite a nice smoke though so it may be worth a go for you & im not gonna say dont go & buy it. if it were me i'd be looking for something a little more elite though with loads of 'Flavour' to quench my palate'lol. It all depends what you want at the end of the day, commercial/medical, personal, etc. Im looking at Bubblegum x's myself atm, things like Growdoc's Bubbledust (Angeldust x Bubblegum) she's a little beauti' man, there's 4 or 5 i got my eye on as ive already mentioned, mainly Cheese or Bubblegum crosses, so thats pretty much my advise to you, if your gonna bother growing then grab some great genetics, something with great flavour & Bag Appeal to-boot & you cant go wrong. Ultimate is off my list im affraid.
Good luck in finding a suitable strain buddy!
'Peace & Respect'............Scroger!
'Yeah it was'nt too bad in the end & im reasonably satisfied man! It could of been alot better though, but all is good! Cheers for following along man! Im sure your ladies will soon be there bro;')
Hey Doughlerman,
Well buddy it all depends what you want man! if you want top quality genetics i advise you 'Not' to buy 'The Ultimate', But this was just my own experience/opinion of it, it may be completely different for you/someone else, i aint done enough with it to preach wright/wrong with this strain. I do believe it has great potential, but i wont waste my money on it again. Its quite a nice smoke though so it may be worth a go for you & im not gonna say dont go & buy it. if it were me i'd be looking for something a little more elite though with loads of 'Flavour' to quench my palate'lol. It all depends what you want at the end of the day, commercial/medical, personal, etc. Im looking at Bubblegum x's myself atm, things like Growdoc's Bubbledust (Angeldust x Bubblegum) she's a little beauti' man, there's 4 or 5 i got my eye on as ive already mentioned, mainly Cheese or Bubblegum crosses, so thats pretty much my advise to you, if your gonna bother growing then grab some great genetics, something with great flavour & Bag Appeal to-boot & you cant go wrong. Ultimate is off my list im affraid.
Good luck in finding a suitable strain buddy!
'Peace & Respect'............Scroger!
doughlerman
New member
thnx scorgerman! inever even heard of dat strain or breeder company! geez i feel like a straight up newb! lol. soo do yu have any idea how much its these strains are yeilding?? im sceeming on some of that mummia frum growdoc
hay scrogerman awesome grow bro you got youre shit down for sure. If you could and have some free time to write up a detailed way to scrog on what materials to use to build the scrog and how to use the plants with them it would be much appreciated by me and iam sure alot of people on here thanks bro and stay safe !
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Hey Guys!,
Doughlerman, Yeah man Mummia too looks Bomb, as i'm certain all of the Doc's strains are fantastic. Just cant stop thinking about the 'Bubbledust', i just have to do her, if i had the room 'Mummia' would be in there too, nice choice if you choose to do her! Some Feminised seeds from the Doc would be cool, i wonder if Growdoc has any plans to release some. G'Luck in your search Man!
NBG89,
Hey Buddy, i will try! there are loads of threads on Scrogging strewn across the internet, 'Training & Pruning' tecniques are what you need to study, i'll give you some links to the appropriate information if i can find them!. However i will give you a start as im always into helping people new to Scrogging!
Firstly, if you are New to Growing our beloved Herb, i would like to sugest that you master Growing MJ in a standard/normal fashion, before trying to tackle a more advanced growing tecnique such as a 'ScrOG' -('Screen-of-Green').There's a lot to consider when using a Screen for training MJ', Airflow,Circulation & Ventilation being at the top of that list & i'd also like to stress using a dehumidifier would also be a very good idea too. Having great Airflow,Circulation & Ventilation is an absolute must. The Canopy of a ScrOG grow can vary in density, the sparser the better, as better airflow within & through the canopy can be achieved, obviously RH is usually through the roof within the Canopy, so carefull consideration of exactly how thick you allow the Canopy to become is important. Trying to Complete a ScrOG grow without the correct, Airflow,Circulation & Ventilation would spell certain disaster i'm sure.-[/i]("Good advise yeah!")[/i], Its imperitive you get your Enviromentals right with any Grow, but paying special attention to it when ScrOG Growing. The higher the RH the more chance of breeding Nasties like Botrytis/Budrot etc. I cant stress highly enough how important this is. I like an RH of 60-70% During Veg, & 40-50% During Bloom. With the use of a Dehuey i manage to keep Budrot at bay, a little is common in ScrOG conditions, hence why i use a Dehumidifier. No-One likes rotten Bud, God'Forbid!
The Build materials i use are Timber(painted) & Plastics. Timber is Easy to use & Cheap, so costs are kept to a minimum. Make your Custom Sized Screen frame & Fix some Plastic garden Mesh(2"x2" holes) or Chicken'wire to it using Staple Nails, fix one side with 2" intervals between staples, pull the 'Garden-Mesh' tight over the oppisite side & fix, again at 2" intervals. Try to keep the Mesh/Chicken'wire as pulled tightly over the screen as you can, the tighter the better, that'll stop the plants pushing the screen up if you get it tight enough. Make your Frame/Stand,Legs & fix to your tank(res), I recommend you keep your plants and your screen fixed as one unit, 'Why will become obvious when you get to it or as you become more experienced. Its possible to just fix the screen above your plants also, but there are more Cons' than Pro's doing it that way imo, either way will produce results though. The Height/Distance between the screen and the base of your plants will vary slightly depending on overall dimensions etc, but a good place to start would be 12", i see alot of people using between 8 & 12 inches as a rule but remember you gotta work under there and airflow restriction should be kept to a minimum also, 12" is a good place to start imo, 10" if its a smaller set-up!
So you knocked together your ScrOG(screen-of-green), legs,frame n'all, & you have your plants sat under the screen at 12"(to-screen), if your grow system/tank/pots was 8" deep, the total distance from the floor to the screen would be 8"+12"=20".. you'd be looking for something like this below, as you can see, its quite a simple construction, made with timber(painted) & covered with plastic garden mesh with 2x2" holes:
So you grow your plants branches up through the screen till they are between 4" and 6", then you pull each branch down through the same hole it grew up through & move it along to its next location(Do-Not 'Weave Branches), you at this point may want to gently fix your branches to the screen with ties as you train the plants into the desired shape. repeat the process of letting each and every branch grow up through the screen 4-6" before pulling back down through the same hole it grew up through & moving along to its next location tying into position on the screen with twisty ties if you so wish. You may have to repeat the process many times before you have your screen 80% or so full, at which point your are ready to switch your plants over to the 12/12 Bloom cycle. MJ will begin to stretch after 7-9 days of switching the light cycle over 12/12, you must use this stretch to fill in the remaining 20% or so of the screen before letting the plants go. At this point you should have a ScrOG & a forest of Pre-Cola's primed & ready to thicken up with masses of frosty Buds!
Carefull consideration needs to be paid to a plants growth pattern & Shape. Larger Branches should be trained toward the outside of the screen leaving smaller branches to fill in the sweet-spot under the centre of the light source, which will produce bigger, longer growth, training branches this way evens out the final shape of your ScrOG,
A 'Bowl-ScrOG' is a Good Move also, this evens out growth. 'Bowl Scrog's are just Screens that have been shaped into a bowl(sunken) to counter act the effect that growth has in the sweet-spot under the main light source, typical when using HID's!. These Bowl shaped ScrOG's are effective & help to keep a more even Canopy, making use of Light efficiency. V-ScrOG's are similar & effective too, as are other variations which maximise light efficiency.
Thats a Basic description for you to contemplate i hope its of some help to you, & at least puts you on the right path. I'll dig up some links for you & leave them below also! G'Luck!
'Peace & Respect'!...............Scroger!
Some Usefull Links:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=89070
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=115377
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=104379
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4250485/Trail/searchtext>DEHUMIDEFIER.htm
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=112589&highlight=rh+importance
http://www.icmag.com/modules/Tutorials/
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=112862
http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/fourtwenty/yor/lightres.htm
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=40637
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Hey Guys!,
Doughlerman, Yeah man Mummia too looks Bomb, as i'm certain all of the Doc's strains are fantastic. Just cant stop thinking about the 'Bubbledust', i just have to do her, if i had the room 'Mummia' would be in there too, nice choice if you choose to do her! Some Feminised seeds from the Doc would be cool, i wonder if Growdoc has any plans to release some. G'Luck in your search Man!
NBG89,
Hey Buddy, i will try! there are loads of threads on Scrogging strewn across the internet, 'Training & Pruning' tecniques are what you need to study, i'll give you some links to the appropriate information if i can find them!. However i will give you a start as im always into helping people new to Scrogging!
Firstly, if you are New to Growing our beloved Herb, i would like to sugest that you master Growing MJ in a standard/normal fashion, before trying to tackle a more advanced growing tecnique such as a 'ScrOG' -('Screen-of-Green').There's a lot to consider when using a Screen for training MJ', Airflow,Circulation & Ventilation being at the top of that list & i'd also like to stress using a dehumidifier would also be a very good idea too. Having great Airflow,Circulation & Ventilation is an absolute must. The Canopy of a ScrOG grow can vary in density, the sparser the better, as better airflow within & through the canopy can be achieved, obviously RH is usually through the roof within the Canopy, so carefull consideration of exactly how thick you allow the Canopy to become is important. Trying to Complete a ScrOG grow without the correct, Airflow,Circulation & Ventilation would spell certain disaster i'm sure.-[/i]("Good advise yeah!")[/i], Its imperitive you get your Enviromentals right with any Grow, but paying special attention to it when ScrOG Growing. The higher the RH the more chance of breeding Nasties like Botrytis/Budrot etc. I cant stress highly enough how important this is. I like an RH of 60-70% During Veg, & 40-50% During Bloom. With the use of a Dehuey i manage to keep Budrot at bay, a little is common in ScrOG conditions, hence why i use a Dehumidifier. No-One likes rotten Bud, God'Forbid!
The Build materials i use are Timber(painted) & Plastics. Timber is Easy to use & Cheap, so costs are kept to a minimum. Make your Custom Sized Screen frame & Fix some Plastic garden Mesh(2"x2" holes) or Chicken'wire to it using Staple Nails, fix one side with 2" intervals between staples, pull the 'Garden-Mesh' tight over the oppisite side & fix, again at 2" intervals. Try to keep the Mesh/Chicken'wire as pulled tightly over the screen as you can, the tighter the better, that'll stop the plants pushing the screen up if you get it tight enough. Make your Frame/Stand,Legs & fix to your tank(res), I recommend you keep your plants and your screen fixed as one unit, 'Why will become obvious when you get to it or as you become more experienced. Its possible to just fix the screen above your plants also, but there are more Cons' than Pro's doing it that way imo, either way will produce results though. The Height/Distance between the screen and the base of your plants will vary slightly depending on overall dimensions etc, but a good place to start would be 12", i see alot of people using between 8 & 12 inches as a rule but remember you gotta work under there and airflow restriction should be kept to a minimum also, 12" is a good place to start imo, 10" if its a smaller set-up!
So you knocked together your ScrOG(screen-of-green), legs,frame n'all, & you have your plants sat under the screen at 12"(to-screen), if your grow system/tank/pots was 8" deep, the total distance from the floor to the screen would be 8"+12"=20".. you'd be looking for something like this below, as you can see, its quite a simple construction, made with timber(painted) & covered with plastic garden mesh with 2x2" holes:
So you grow your plants branches up through the screen till they are between 4" and 6", then you pull each branch down through the same hole it grew up through & move it along to its next location(Do-Not 'Weave Branches), you at this point may want to gently fix your branches to the screen with ties as you train the plants into the desired shape. repeat the process of letting each and every branch grow up through the screen 4-6" before pulling back down through the same hole it grew up through & moving along to its next location tying into position on the screen with twisty ties if you so wish. You may have to repeat the process many times before you have your screen 80% or so full, at which point your are ready to switch your plants over to the 12/12 Bloom cycle. MJ will begin to stretch after 7-9 days of switching the light cycle over 12/12, you must use this stretch to fill in the remaining 20% or so of the screen before letting the plants go. At this point you should have a ScrOG & a forest of Pre-Cola's primed & ready to thicken up with masses of frosty Buds!
Carefull consideration needs to be paid to a plants growth pattern & Shape. Larger Branches should be trained toward the outside of the screen leaving smaller branches to fill in the sweet-spot under the centre of the light source, which will produce bigger, longer growth, training branches this way evens out the final shape of your ScrOG,
A 'Bowl-ScrOG' is a Good Move also, this evens out growth. 'Bowl Scrog's are just Screens that have been shaped into a bowl(sunken) to counter act the effect that growth has in the sweet-spot under the main light source, typical when using HID's!. These Bowl shaped ScrOG's are effective & help to keep a more even Canopy, making use of Light efficiency. V-ScrOG's are similar & effective too, as are other variations which maximise light efficiency.
Thats a Basic description for you to contemplate i hope its of some help to you, & at least puts you on the right path. I'll dig up some links for you & leave them below also! G'Luck!
'Peace & Respect'!...............Scroger!
Some Usefull Links:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=89070
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=115377
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=104379
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4250485/Trail/searchtext>DEHUMIDEFIER.htm
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=112589&highlight=rh+importance
http://www.icmag.com/modules/Tutorials/
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=112862
http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/fourtwenty/yor/lightres.htm
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=40637
Roortokeage
Member
Damn Scroger they look great. Let me know how she smokes!
Hey Weazer,
It's my pleasure mate. G'Luck with your next project, if you need any help/advise just give me a shout buddy! It's no problem!
Roor buddy!
'The Ultimate' really surprised me in the smoke department('flavour'). There is variation of about 4 or 5 pheno's from my experience with a 10 pack of Fem's, but all are a 'decent puff'. For the most 'Fruity Skunk' is the theme, but one pheno has an extra sour tone which is really nice('50/50'-'indi/sati' pheno). I am likening that one to Jack Herer, it's almost similar in the way it has a fruity sour edge which leaves your palate beggin for more(lol). If they were all like that pheno i would be very pleased, but overall im happy in the smoke test department & they cure very well too, improving weekly in the jars. This strain has potential imo, but i think its imperitive a clone garden is used. There does seem to be alot of pheno variation & i bet you would be seeing more than 4or5 pheno's if you germed 20 or 30 seeds.
Overall she smokes very well & if you happen to land that fruity sour pheno, i know you would be pleased with this strain. I will write a full smoke & grow report shortly, watch this space!
Peace & Respect................Scroger
It's my pleasure mate. G'Luck with your next project, if you need any help/advise just give me a shout buddy! It's no problem!
Roor buddy!
'The Ultimate' really surprised me in the smoke department('flavour'). There is variation of about 4 or 5 pheno's from my experience with a 10 pack of Fem's, but all are a 'decent puff'. For the most 'Fruity Skunk' is the theme, but one pheno has an extra sour tone which is really nice('50/50'-'indi/sati' pheno). I am likening that one to Jack Herer, it's almost similar in the way it has a fruity sour edge which leaves your palate beggin for more(lol). If they were all like that pheno i would be very pleased, but overall im happy in the smoke test department & they cure very well too, improving weekly in the jars. This strain has potential imo, but i think its imperitive a clone garden is used. There does seem to be alot of pheno variation & i bet you would be seeing more than 4or5 pheno's if you germed 20 or 30 seeds.
Overall she smokes very well & if you happen to land that fruity sour pheno, i know you would be pleased with this strain. I will write a full smoke & grow report shortly, watch this space!
Peace & Respect................Scroger
MeanBean
Member
Hey Scrogger, It's really hard to get a good pic but my DP is comming out pretty good. The colas are thicker and bigger than my last harvest already! But I am only on my 6th week.. It's gonna be a long time tell there done but hey should be a big crop.
Check out this pick I got my first sign of finiishing today, how much longer ya think hahaha??? Can you see the golden hair???
That is in front of a 2x4
Check out this pick I got my first sign of finiishing today, how much longer ya think hahaha??? Can you see the golden hair???
That is in front of a 2x4
6ish!
6ish!
Hey Bro',
Looks like you been busy, they look fine man i must say! I'll have to see if you got any more pics in your gallery. They look like they have around 5 or maybe 6/7 weeks left. My Buddy's crop has just finished, i gave him the cuts of the best pheno's i had, & it was a nice selection even if i do say so myself(he'll read this), Turns out we both agree that the 50/50 pheno' is the overall best. It has a nice equal share of 'The Ultimate's best attributes & tastes the best too. Its got a nice 'Skunky Fruit' Taste with a slight sour edge(1 pheno only) which i really enjoyed, but the other pheno's i was pretty dissapointed with & imo this strain needed more work before it's release. Its got great potential though & i think it might be a fair choice to do some X's with, its definately got the 'Bulk' factor & i can see why its been summarised as possibly a great commercial strain. SOG is the name of the game here though imo, she dont like being Trained/Bent Over and doesent respond too well to L.S.T, 'The Ultimate' is NOT suitable for a ScrOG grow, which is a shame. Keep me posted please bro, it'll be cool to compare how yours turn out. I wish you The Best of Luck My Friend!
Peace & Respect...............Scroger!
BTW, Your gonna have some Beastly sized buds & i know you'll be impresseed with the size. I found she's heat sensitive but i was required to get the light as close as possible or buds were seeming to grow in a lose airy pattern/way, so that caused a little problem but hey. Oh & Trichs pack on well late so dont worry about the lack of trichs up untill the end of wk7/8, when they really pack it on! just thought i'd mention it!
6ish!
Hey Bro',
Looks like you been busy, they look fine man i must say! I'll have to see if you got any more pics in your gallery. They look like they have around 5 or maybe 6/7 weeks left. My Buddy's crop has just finished, i gave him the cuts of the best pheno's i had, & it was a nice selection even if i do say so myself(he'll read this), Turns out we both agree that the 50/50 pheno' is the overall best. It has a nice equal share of 'The Ultimate's best attributes & tastes the best too. Its got a nice 'Skunky Fruit' Taste with a slight sour edge(1 pheno only) which i really enjoyed, but the other pheno's i was pretty dissapointed with & imo this strain needed more work before it's release. Its got great potential though & i think it might be a fair choice to do some X's with, its definately got the 'Bulk' factor & i can see why its been summarised as possibly a great commercial strain. SOG is the name of the game here though imo, she dont like being Trained/Bent Over and doesent respond too well to L.S.T, 'The Ultimate' is NOT suitable for a ScrOG grow, which is a shame. Keep me posted please bro, it'll be cool to compare how yours turn out. I wish you The Best of Luck My Friend!
Peace & Respect...............Scroger!
BTW, Your gonna have some Beastly sized buds & i know you'll be impresseed with the size. I found she's heat sensitive but i was required to get the light as close as possible or buds were seeming to grow in a lose airy pattern/way, so that caused a little problem but hey. Oh & Trichs pack on well late so dont worry about the lack of trichs up untill the end of wk7/8, when they really pack it on! just thought i'd mention it!
Yeah Buddy,
Not the Best or most suitable strain to ScrOG with but she will begrudingly bend out for you, she dont like it very much as i'm sure you will see. I find strains that dont respond well to being trained grow really slowly through the screen, whereas compared to a strain that likes it where growth is normal & vigourous. I'm sure you will see this for yourself. Enjoy her man, she looks real healthy, Nice Work' dude!
Peace..........Scroger'
Not the Best or most suitable strain to ScrOG with but she will begrudingly bend out for you, she dont like it very much as i'm sure you will see. I find strains that dont respond well to being trained grow really slowly through the screen, whereas compared to a strain that likes it where growth is normal & vigourous. I'm sure you will see this for yourself. Enjoy her man, she looks real healthy, Nice Work' dude!
Peace..........Scroger'
GreenhouseBobby
Member
Scrogerman what a beautiful beautiful thread.
Much respect and what a huge yield
Much respect and what a huge yield
Hey Toke,
She was around 25oz - 27.5oz approx, Not the end of the world but i wanted at least 35oz, so 10oz short is alot as we know, i was dissapointed to say the least. As this plant aint suitable for ScrOG, i sugest S.O.G for this strain, where as promised by 'DP' the breeders themselves this would be an 'Epic yielding strain, of course with the right Pheno selection for cuttings for your garden. I dont recommend a garden of 'The Ultimate' from seed, Pheno variation is worst than i first thought & seems to be Vast/Unstable imho! Find the right Pheno though and it could be a very special garden indeed, i will say that much!.
Hey Mean,
Yeah my mate just finished the Cuts i gave him & they too went 12 weeks+ yiou are correct,
We are pissed off with Dutch Passion for tellin fib's & touting this strain as an 8-10 weeker, that just crap imo, although there was one that finished in 9 wks but her yield was the worst i have ever seen on a plant, especially one that had a 7 week Veg, yes my babys took 19+ weeks to finish, Dam, not far off a period of time i usually get 2 whole grows completed in!
'DP' are 'full of 'Shite im affraid, as you can tell i aint happy really, Most of the Pheno's are Crap, theres probably 2 that got a score of 5-6 out of 10. the rest 2-3 out of 10, & that was for Bulk & nothing else! Overall, im dissapointed with this strain & would not grow it again, im sure you all will feel the same & you will all wish you had spent your money on Sour-Diesel or OG Kush or something a little more Elite! as i myself do! Good Luck though Mean & i hope you get a monster of a Pheno, you very well might get something special too.
Hey Bobby,
Thanks Man, As you have probably read i am dissapointed with the yield, i know 25+ sounds good but i hit less than .5g per watt for the first time ever & this strain is supposed to be something special, well thats what happens when you ScrOG a strain that needed to be S.O.G'ed. Great to hear from you Buddy!
Peace & Mucho Respect................Scroger........
She was around 25oz - 27.5oz approx, Not the end of the world but i wanted at least 35oz, so 10oz short is alot as we know, i was dissapointed to say the least. As this plant aint suitable for ScrOG, i sugest S.O.G for this strain, where as promised by 'DP' the breeders themselves this would be an 'Epic yielding strain, of course with the right Pheno selection for cuttings for your garden. I dont recommend a garden of 'The Ultimate' from seed, Pheno variation is worst than i first thought & seems to be Vast/Unstable imho! Find the right Pheno though and it could be a very special garden indeed, i will say that much!.
Hey Mean,
Yeah my mate just finished the Cuts i gave him & they too went 12 weeks+ yiou are correct,
We are pissed off with Dutch Passion for tellin fib's & touting this strain as an 8-10 weeker, that just crap imo, although there was one that finished in 9 wks but her yield was the worst i have ever seen on a plant, especially one that had a 7 week Veg, yes my babys took 19+ weeks to finish, Dam, not far off a period of time i usually get 2 whole grows completed in!
'DP' are 'full of 'Shite im affraid, as you can tell i aint happy really, Most of the Pheno's are Crap, theres probably 2 that got a score of 5-6 out of 10. the rest 2-3 out of 10, & that was for Bulk & nothing else! Overall, im dissapointed with this strain & would not grow it again, im sure you all will feel the same & you will all wish you had spent your money on Sour-Diesel or OG Kush or something a little more Elite! as i myself do! Good Luck though Mean & i hope you get a monster of a Pheno, you very well might get something special too.
Hey Bobby,
Thanks Man, As you have probably read i am dissapointed with the yield, i know 25+ sounds good but i hit less than .5g per watt for the first time ever & this strain is supposed to be something special, well thats what happens when you ScrOG a strain that needed to be S.O.G'ed. Great to hear from you Buddy!
Peace & Mucho Respect................Scroger........
