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Osama Bong Loadin'

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I went in a grow store yesterday. I was looking for a sheet of rockwool cubes. But Grodan only, not knockoff cheap rockwool that doesn't perform as well. I asked the store if he had Grodan. I told him I didn't want crappy cheap rockwool. And the motherfucker lied to me and sold me bullshit.
I once cussed out a store owner for a very similar offense involving rooting cubes years ago. And I'm pissed off but I remember how mad I got years ago and I know now that those store people are not trustworthy. I just will avoid them if I can.
 

Osama Bong Loadin'

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I can't. It was after soaking when I broke them apart that I knew I'd been had, they tear irregularly and I noticed other differences. The cheapo shit isn't buffered as well and the clones can suffer for that. I don't know about those folks, but I like my clones green and healthy when they root. Hopefully the stuff is alright. I don't know which is their supplier but I've noticed a lot of the same stuff in the stores. The best closest store for organics changed owners. I feel let down when I go in the stores and can't find the products I've always used.
 

Osama Bong Loadin'

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I can't. It was after soaking when I broke them apart that I knew I'd been had, they tear irregularly and I noticed other differences. The cheapo shit isn't buffered as well and the clones can suffer for that. I don't know about those folks, but I like my clones green and healthy when they root. Hopefully the stuff is alright. I don't know which is their supplier but I've noticed a lot of the same stuff in the stores. The best closest store for organics changed owners. I feel let down when I go in the stores and can't find the products I've always used.
And some stuff is just gone. Like Vitagrow rooting solution. Covid took them out and I am bummed. What product to use now that works like that? My 4 year old bottle is almost gone. I used it since it was Wood's way back...the 80's I think. Does anyone know of a solution like that? I don't like gels.
 

Phytoplankton

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I can't. It was after soaking when I broke them apart that I knew I'd been had, they tear irregularly and I noticed other differences. The cheapo shit isn't buffered as well and the clones can suffer for that. I don't know about those folks, but I like my clones green and healthy when they root. Hopefully the stuff is alright. I don't know which is their supplier but I've noticed a lot of the same stuff in the stores. The best closest store for organics changed owners. I feel let down when I go in the stores and can't find the products I've always used.
So you asked for a specific product, and they sold you something else, claiming it was the product you asked for? I'd still take it back, used or unused.
 

bigsur51

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that’s weird

how did you not know they were not Grodan when you bought them?….

all the ones I have ever purchased looked like these

maybe Grodan recently changed their packaging?..🤓


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Osama Bong Loadin'

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that’s weird

how did you not know they were not Grodan when you bought them?….

all the ones I have ever purchased looked like these

maybe Grodan recently changed their packaging?..🤓




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Everything was wrong about it. Size of the cube, etc...If it doesn't affect my clones I am okay with it. The last knock off crap I got wasn't good. The last thing I need is trouble with store owners. I'll buy somewhere else next time.
Grodan wraps their starter cube sheets in plastic with advertising. The store owner passed these bogus unwrapped sheets of cubes as bulk Grodan that came in a box. But it isn't Grodan.
 

Absorber

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And some stuff is just gone. Like Vitagrow rooting solution. Covid took them out and I am bummed. What product to use now that works like that? My 4 year old bottle is almost gone. I used it since it was Wood's way back...the 80's I think. Does anyone know of a solution like that? I don't like gels.
Im a big fan of woods cloning liquid ,i used to use it with great success
Get it here
 

Countryboy

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Clonex is good but ,i like woods over all the others ive used ,its a liquid and absorbs much better than a gel and it has isopropal alcohol in it to inhibit fungal growth too.
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I've got a big bottle and a smaller 1. When they are gone, I'll give Woods a try.
Damn! They think a lot of it.
 

Captain Red Eye

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I just wanted to say I love the title of this thread. Sounds like it could be one of the missing episodes of Seinfeld or something. :)
 

growshopfrank

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that’s weird

how did you not know they were not Grodan when you bought them?….

all the ones I have ever purchased looked like these

maybe Grodan recently changed their packaging?..🤓


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The only brand labeling on the 1" starter cube slabs is on the cardboard shipping box.
Can't think of any other brand that i ever saw in Canada that packaged/sold starter cubes that could be visually confused with grodan if you were familiar with the product.
I have had experience with genuine grodan product with inconsistent density and coloration from time to time.

FWIW with every strain that i have ever rooted as long as the PH is in the ballpark, the moisture level isn't too wet and the temperature is around room temp near any rooting compound will work fine.
Some strains will take longer and as long as the growing tip looks ok and there are no signs of mold or rot be patient and the roots will come.
 
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