Dont ya just love

[bobcat1963]

When your ability to clone goes away.I used to be able to clone whatever when ever.Now everything I touch tells me to fuck offIt happens every now and again,not bitching but it sure is frustrating,hell I have killed fourty or so in the last couple weeks.Oh well I wont stop till I regain what I already know.
Sorry for the rant,but I had to do somethingI feel better now.
Bob.

(its the kittens fault....I just know it)

 

[burns1n209]

Ive been haveing same damn problem, im thinkin its the strain im messing with, ive always been able to clone about 95% of the time. this strain 5 % not giving up yet though there about 2 week old with no roots but still look decent so im gonna givine them a week more before i try again. ive heard clones taking 2 or 3 weeks for roots but ive always had them in no more then 7. gotta be the strain, hope its the strain,

 

[Mrs.Babba]

Oh man bobcat...we went thru the same thing!! Couldnt get anything to root, lost some stuff and was about to throw in the towl...put the cloner in a different spot and was a more constant temp and things changed dramatically....getting roots in no time and cloning is like it used to be.
You will get it back, just have to keep at it!

 

[bobcat1963]

Ive been haveing same damn problem, im thinkin its the strain im messing with, ive always been able to clone about 95% of the time. this strain 5 % not giving up yet though there about 2 week old with no roots but still look decent so im gonna givine them a week more before i try again. ive heard clones taking 2 or 3 weeks for roots but ive always had them in no more then 7. gotta be the strain, hope its the strain,

I attribute it to the time of year/season etc.What was a perfect indoor enviroment is different for some reason,low humidity,heat cold etc.Im still blaming the damn kitten.You will work it out bro.Bob

 

[burns1n209]

Thanks alot, i still have some confidence, i think im gonna put a couple i know will root,next to a couple of the new ones just to make sure of things. if anything is the problem i guess its the heat. its never over 82 in veg room but its also never been that warm either. usually mid to low 70's. I didnt think 82 would hurt, actually thought it may help a bit, thought the little guys liked it a little warmer, and humdity dome sprayed everyday seems to be doing its job with humidity levels.

 

[HighDesertJoe]

Im still blaming the damn kitten.You will work it out bro.Bob

LMAO cat's always get the blame...

 

[supermanlives]

cloning is easy for me . no issues whatsoever

 

[bobcat1963]

cloning is easy for me . no issues whatsoever

seeing that you can also fly,I wouldnt expect you to have cloning issues

 

[ZippyThePinhead]

I get great results with rapid rooters.

 

[HempKat]

I'm not sure how you're cloning but like Zippy I use rapid rooters and I get great results even when conditions are less then optimal. I tried to switch a short while ago to peat pellets since they're so much cheaper and more accessible to someone with no hydro store in their area, but my success rate suddenly took a plunge and I ended up losing a chemdog hybrid I had been holding on to for a couple of years in the process because I assumed that at least 1 out of 10 clones would root and I flowered the mom without waiting to see if at least one actually did root. I tried to reveg it but between me having no experience revegging and it wasn't a great candidate having been flowered SOG style, it didn't make it. Went back to rapid rooters and everything started rooting again.

Like you I at first thought it was a temp issue because it was during the winter and temps in my clone area were averaging 70 degrees F. So I tried another round but kept the room heated (without letting the heat dry things out too much) which seemed to help a little but I was still having much lower then normal success. When I went back to the rapid rooters though I went back to near 100% success and while not my idea of rapid (about 12-14 days) they were rooting faster then the few that did root when using peat pellets.

I know many enjoy great success with peat pellets and I even checked with some to make sure I wan't overlooking something about using them ut there wasn't. Which makes me wonder if I got a bad batch of peat pellets? I decided though why waste the time and take the risk to test that theory out when I can just stick with something that so far has worked very well?

 

[Dawn Patrol]

I get great results with rapid rooters.

My experience as well Zippy.

I built an EZ Clone knockoff, a bubble cloner, a mist cloner, tried perlite/vermiculite, peat pellets, straight soil. plain water etc.

I tried all manner of rooting agents (Clonex, Olivias, Scotts, Gel 4 Plugs, Hormex) and anti wilt spray

I've used nothing but rapid rooters for the last two years and my cloning issues went away. Most strains I get 90% success, there are a couple that I only get about 70% but that's still just fine with me.

I drop the rapid rooters into ice cube trays and foliar feed very lightly after the fifth day. Usually by day 14 I have roots on almost all cuttings.

I don't have real cold temps to deal with but I still use a heating mat if the temps drop too much. I'm sure temp control is more of an issue in northern climates.

The season I switched to rapid rooters, I had so many clones I didn't know what to do with them all.

 

[supermanlives]

i learned using olivias. which contains zero root stimulators. just ferts. took me like 5 years to realize that. then when i started using other stuff with i3ba and naa my cloning took the hell off.i have tried every method since and goback to promix or similar and perlite 50/50 in solo cups with humidity dome. never fails me

 

[bobcat1963]

I'm using rapid rooters,have been for a couple years now.I can put my north london church and rainbow jones cuttings in a cup of stale well water and have roots in 10/12 days,but my satori is giving me no love lately,rapid rooters or not.Bob

 

[mpd]

I use whatever cheapshit cloning powder that Casa DePot has on sale. Sooner or later something roots.

 

[Amanita]

I don't think I'd love that at all! Something must have changed for that to be happening. How are they dying each time?

 

[Red Fang]

I had great sucess cloning only to have the last patch turn to mush too! An alien conspiracy I say!
Seriously not any fun but in my case I tried refrigerating cuttings and then cloning them like I heard about in a thread here. Well for some reason my fridge gets too cold even on the lowest setttings and they froze and turned to mush. Tried to save them but all in vain. that was the last backups to stuff I wanted to save. Never put all your eggs in one basket I guess the lesson is! I have some sickly clones hanging on but who knows if they'll make it, root aphids or fungus gnats or some other problem rooting I don't know but it sucks! And when I finally do get seedlings or clones to make it, they take forever to grow and flower. I wish I knew what I was doing wrong. So I feel for you!

 

[Dawn Patrol]

I'm using rapid rooters,have been for a couple years now.I can put my north london church and rainbow jones cuttings in a cup of stale well water and have roots in 10/12 days,but my satori is giving me no love lately,rapid rooters or not.Bob

Try this for hard to root strains. I won't go into all the details of cloning as you are probably already aware of those important points (sterilization of tools & plant material, rooting hormones, etc).

Dry out the plant you are taking cuttings from to the point where it is just about to wilt. Take a container large enough to hold as many rapid rooters as you want to use and fill it halfway with water. Add your favorite rooting hormone (I use Hormodin 3), I don't really measure, I just dump a bunch in there and stir it up real well.

Add your rapid rooters to the water and give them 20 minutes to soak. After that I usually give them all a squeeze to work in the amended water. Take your cuttings and immediately place them in the water and leave them there for 10-20 minutes.

I never use the main hole in a rapid rooter, depending on the size of the cutting, I use a #3 or #4 nail to make a hole in the densest part of the rooter (they are rarely uniform) and then place the cutting into that hole. If you want to use more rooting hormone, you can add to the cutting before placing it in the rapid rooter.

Once that's done, it's just experimentation to find the right combination of light, humidity and root zone temperatures to make the cuttings want to root.

I've actually taken 3 times as many cuts as I wanted and tried different combinations of temp/humidity until I figured it out. Another helpful step for cuttings that take a long time to root is to foliar feed with something like Canna Rhizotonic (0.6-0.0-0.6) by day 6 and after to keep them working to produce roots.

Take notes (and keep them ) and you should be back in business in short order.

 

[lost in a sea]

lol for years i couldnt clone a thing,, now i have a fool proof way of getting anything to so i can forget about em and always get basically 100% results,, and healthy clones as well,, you'l get it back

 

[supermanlives]

water cloning dont work for me with cannabis. must be the cali water LOL it works with tomato plants . good thing i dont need it.i take extra cuts and leave them in water.change it daily and they end up mush and no roots. well maybe like 3 roots in all ever.

 

[lost in a sea]

my technique is to

-cut and scrape very lightly the bottom 2cm of phloem and dip in clonex for half an hour or more
-get some sterile seedling soil in a small pot (<0.5 litre)
-moisten the soil well
-press my finger 1/3 of the way down into the middle of the pot
-fill impression with root it gel or similar
-stick clone in gel lol
-put a clear beer cup (or plastic bottle with the bottom cut off) over the top
-cellotape newpaper around cup it to keep the light levels quite low
-put it somewhere not too cool obviously, but it works so well imo it hardly matters
-lower wattage blue spectrum flourecents work best
-and wait 1-2 weeks till roots show out the bottom of the pot

all clones are usually healthy and green by then but you can leave em longer and they should still take,, the paper around the cup really helps prevent the clone from using its energy photosynthesisng so it can put all its effort into making roots,,

bubbler cloners are amazing but not fool proof so i sacked em off..