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Donald Sterling owner of LA Clippers
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Somebody important in the LA chapter of NAACP made ALOT of money I'm guessing 2 lifetime achievement awards!? One of the reps was on espn radio said " you cannot buy the NAACP BUT (always that but lol then the truth) each local NAACP office does rely on local contributions "
Wonder how much Donald Tokowitz donated
Wonder how much Donald Tokowitz donated
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...aturing-cultural-views-of-l-a-clippers-owner/
‘There Are White Jews and Black Jews’: More Audio Allegedly Featuring Cultural Views of L.A. Clippers Owner
It’s the world,” the man says. “You go to Israel. The blacks are just treated like dogs.”
Sterling allegedly goes on to say that black Jews are treated “100 percent” differently than white Jews.
The man in the audio notes that “black Jews” in Israel are treated much worse than “white Jews” but then later declares that he gives his black players “food and clothes and cars and houses.”
Majority of all Sport Owners are Jewish... Its such a relief to know what they think of their employees with so much respect ...
Shit no Wonder there is no peace in this world... people that run the show behind the scenes are Racist to the core... yet always quick to point out others that engage in this behavior ...
Kettle calling the Pot Black..
‘There Are White Jews and Black Jews’: More Audio Allegedly Featuring Cultural Views of L.A. Clippers Owner
It’s the world,” the man says. “You go to Israel. The blacks are just treated like dogs.”
Sterling allegedly goes on to say that black Jews are treated “100 percent” differently than white Jews.
The man in the audio notes that “black Jews” in Israel are treated much worse than “white Jews” but then later declares that he gives his black players “food and clothes and cars and houses.”
Majority of all Sport Owners are Jewish... Its such a relief to know what they think of their employees with so much respect ...
Shit no Wonder there is no peace in this world... people that run the show behind the scenes are Racist to the core... yet always quick to point out others that engage in this behavior ...
Kettle calling the Pot Black..
So? They are.
TEL AVIV, 9 February 2012 (IRIN) - Growing up in Israel, Shay Sium became accustomed to being called a “nigger”.
Sium, 32, has lived in Israel most of his life, but says he and other Ethiopian Jews are treated differently from other Israelis: factories do not want to employ them; landlords refuse them; and certain schools turn away their children.
"The word discrimination doesn’t describe what we experience. There is another word for it: racism. It is a shame that we still have to use this word today,” he told IRIN.
An estimated 125,000 Ethiopian Jews live in Israel, but while they are supposed to be full citizens with equal rights, their community has continued to face widespread discrimination and socio-economic difficulties, according to its leaders.
A recent decision - as reported by local media - by 120 homeowners not to sell or rent their apartments to Israeli-Ethiopian families has brought discrimination against Ethiopian Jews in Israel back into the spotlight.
http://www.irinnews.org/report/94819/israel-the-tribulations-of-being-an-ethiopian-jew
While saying bad things about the woman will be seen as bad form, there's a teaching moment here for those who grow or are involved in whatever illegal activities.
Roeser added that the woman identified as Stiviano "is the defendant in a lawsuit brought by the Sterling family alleging that she embezzled more than $1.8 million, who told Mr. Sterling that she would 'get even.'"
When your not-a-mistress mistress is secretly recording your conversations and who knows what else, the future is not bright.
Same thing pretty much happened to Mel Gibson remember when that Russian chick taped his racist rant it's catching these older guys who date these younger chicks off guard because their generations woman didn't do stuff like this. These gold diggers try and ruin these dudes they better adjust pretty quickly because every gold digger has seen this story and a light bulb just went off. This probably won't be the last racist telephone recording we see in the coming years if anything this going to catch on watch and see.
There is racism in Israel, there's no denying that, most of it coming out from the Ashkenazi community and the Arab community; these two communities are responsible for the majority of the racism.
lets not even get started with the Christian Russians that came with fake identities, passing off as Jewish...
Try to find one single African in an Askhenazi orthodox neighborhood or an Arab neighborhood, you won't.
I've been called a nigger by Ashkenazis because I'm Mizrahi, been called a fucking Jew by Arabs, been called a fucking Arab by Russians and a fucking Mexican by Americans lol...
lets not even get started with the Christian Russians that came with fake identities, passing off as Jewish...
Try to find one single African in an Askhenazi orthodox neighborhood or an Arab neighborhood, you won't.
I've been called a nigger by Ashkenazis because I'm Mizrahi, been called a fucking Jew by Arabs, been called a fucking Arab by Russians and a fucking Mexican by Americans lol...
I think he's a racist bigot who needs there to be harsh repercussions. Removal at the very least.
But I also think that culture of old rich dudes getting these young gold-digging whores is perverted and disgusting from the get go. I think she set him up with dollar signs in her eyes. Listen to the whole conversation, not just the sound bites on the news. I think that bitch saw she was getting kicked to the curb and figured this might pay off so she would end up with something.
Who made the recording?
Still, I think that old turd should get butt fucked hard, no lube. But that fucking whore should too. She deserves nothing but a big kick in the ass.
But like others have said, is anyone at all surprised by any of this?
But I also think that culture of old rich dudes getting these young gold-digging whores is perverted and disgusting from the get go. I think she set him up with dollar signs in her eyes. Listen to the whole conversation, not just the sound bites on the news. I think that bitch saw she was getting kicked to the curb and figured this might pay off so she would end up with something.
Who made the recording?
Still, I think that old turd should get butt fucked hard, no lube. But that fucking whore should too. She deserves nothing but a big kick in the ass.
But like others have said, is anyone at all surprised by any of this?
Here's what the NBA has to deal with when considering how to punish Sterling. If you read the article, you'll see that there are legal intricacies involved that make applying the most severe punishment, the harsh penalties that everybody wants to see him suffer, quite difficult.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer...nce-of-silvers-broad-powers-in-sterling-issue
Sports attorney outlines Silver's 'broad powers' in Sterling issue
As the sports world awaits an announcement Tuesday from Adam Silver regarding the NBA's investigation of Clippers owner Donald Sterling, the commissioner already may have provided a window into part of the legal justification for whatever action he takes.
At a news conference in Memphis on Saturday night discussing the scandalous audio recording attributed to Sterling, Silver was asked why the NBA had never disciplined Sterling before despite allegations of racially insensitive comments in the public record. In 2009, for example, Sterling settled a federal housing discrimination lawsuit for $2.73 million, and though he admitted no wrongdoing, the court record contains accusations of racially insensitive remarks attributed to the owner.
Silver's response: "I can't speak to the past as to why decisions were made."
In short, Silver was not the commissioner at the time, and while he most certainly played an important role in the NBA's day-to-day decisions as deputy commissioner, he did not have the broad powers vested solely in the commissioner by the league's Constitution and By-Laws.
Now, however, he does.
"One can make an argument that the commissioner [David Stern], by not taking action previously, indicated or waived the right to be able to punish him in the future for similar conduct," said noted sports attorney Gabe Feldman, director of the Sports Law Center at Tulane University Law School. "I don't think that's a particularly strong argument, and we simply don't know what was said to Sterling by David Stern in the past. There may have been notice that what he's done is unacceptable and might be grounds for punishment in the future."
If the comments attributed to Sterling in the recording are authenticated as his own, it all comes back to the "broad powers" Silver alluded to in his news conference on Saturday night and how he chooses to exercise them. Those powers, given to the commissioner by the owners themselves, are at the crux of Silver's disciplinary options. Handing down a severe enough punishment while not overstepping his powers is the key for Silver to pass the first defining test of his tenure, Feldman said.
"This is not about defending these statements -- there's no way to defend these statements -- but it's about defending ownership interest in an NBA team and following the procedures that are in the Constitution and By-laws," Feldman said. "That's both to protect the other owners' interests in their own teams but also to protect the league and the commissioner from legal attack from Donald Sterling. If they tried to overreach or tried to expand the interpretation or the breadth of the commissioner's powers or the Board of Governors' powers, that's likely going to lead to a lawsuit. And a lawsuit is a lose-lose for the league here."
Though the NBA's by-laws never have been made publicly available in their entirety, Feldman's familiarity with the legal structure of pro sports leagues causes him to focus on a key phrase governing the behavior of all participants: "conduct that is materially detrimental or materially prejudicial to the best interests of the team or the league." The commissioner has broad discretion in punishing such behavior, though Feldman believes there is a $1 million cap on fines.
"My educated guess is, we'll see a fairly lengthy suspension and a hefty fine," Feldman said. "But the commissioner has tremendous discretion to choose how hefty the fine will be and how long the suspension will be. And given that we don't have much precedent to guide us here, it's very hard to gauge the severity of the discipline."
To avoid a messy, expensive and public legal battle, Feldman said it's likely Silver would reach some sort of agreement with Sterling on any discipline he decides to issue.
"Given that the rules governing this situation are private, one would think that the league would want the suspension and the terms of the suspension and all the details to remain private as well," Feldman said. "And privacy is gone if it ends up in federal court."
As for the notion of a forced sale, Feldman said sports leagues specifically reserve such severe punishment for narrowly defined instances, such as game-fixing or financial inability to operate the team. Legally, Silver would not be able to apply that clause and the one dealing with "conduct detrimental or prejudicial." He'd have to pick one or the other.
"When you have a specific provision that delineates acceptable punishment for conduct detrimental or prejudicial, it's then difficult to argue that a broad provision controls a specific," Feldman said. "In contract law, it's the opposite. The specific trumps the general. And here we have a specific provision that seems to have been intended to deal with these types of situations. And to then say that this is such a drastic example of this situation that we have to go beyond this clause is sort of a dangerous precedent to set.
"Even if you are an owner who is unhappy with these comments, you have to be wary of a broad interpretation of the commissioner's power being used against you -- or a broad interpretation of the Board of Governors' power being used against you -- in a future situation. Particularly in a case like this, where this was a private comment."
That's the other legal challenge facing Silver, Feldman said: If the comments are authenticated and determined to have been Sterling's, they nonetheless were made in a private conversation that may not have been recorded with his consent.
"There's no question that the comments are unacceptable and abhorrent, but the issue becomes more complicated because these were not publicly made statements," Feldman said. "We all know that doesn't excuse the statements, but it does raise some questions about whether this is the type of conduct that the owners intended the commissioner to punish for. ... At the end of the day, whether these comments were made publicly, privately, or were being recorded with or without his knowledge, I think you can make a strong argument that the statements clearly are prejudicial to the league and some discipline is warranted."
Whatever the outcome in the short term, Feldman said the ultimate determination on Sterling's ownership of the Clippers might be economic in nature, as well as legal. Already, a lengthy list of some of the team's biggest and most lucrative sponsors have ceased or suspended marketing relationships with the team. If revenue streams are cut off and players and coaches do not want to be employed by the team, that might lead to Sterling being unable to financially operate it in a manner that is in the best interests of the NBA.
"Whether that's a combination of pressure from the other owners, from the players, the players' association, the sponsors, the fans, potentially that might be enough economic pressure to make financial sense for Sterling to sell," Feldman said. "... I think certainly that type of pressure might be enough, but it might have to come from all angles. And it looks like it might be coming from all angles already."
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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer...nce-of-silvers-broad-powers-in-sterling-issue
Sports attorney outlines Silver's 'broad powers' in Sterling issue
As the sports world awaits an announcement Tuesday from Adam Silver regarding the NBA's investigation of Clippers owner Donald Sterling, the commissioner already may have provided a window into part of the legal justification for whatever action he takes.
At a news conference in Memphis on Saturday night discussing the scandalous audio recording attributed to Sterling, Silver was asked why the NBA had never disciplined Sterling before despite allegations of racially insensitive comments in the public record. In 2009, for example, Sterling settled a federal housing discrimination lawsuit for $2.73 million, and though he admitted no wrongdoing, the court record contains accusations of racially insensitive remarks attributed to the owner.
Silver's response: "I can't speak to the past as to why decisions were made."
In short, Silver was not the commissioner at the time, and while he most certainly played an important role in the NBA's day-to-day decisions as deputy commissioner, he did not have the broad powers vested solely in the commissioner by the league's Constitution and By-Laws.
Now, however, he does.
"One can make an argument that the commissioner [David Stern], by not taking action previously, indicated or waived the right to be able to punish him in the future for similar conduct," said noted sports attorney Gabe Feldman, director of the Sports Law Center at Tulane University Law School. "I don't think that's a particularly strong argument, and we simply don't know what was said to Sterling by David Stern in the past. There may have been notice that what he's done is unacceptable and might be grounds for punishment in the future."
If the comments attributed to Sterling in the recording are authenticated as his own, it all comes back to the "broad powers" Silver alluded to in his news conference on Saturday night and how he chooses to exercise them. Those powers, given to the commissioner by the owners themselves, are at the crux of Silver's disciplinary options. Handing down a severe enough punishment while not overstepping his powers is the key for Silver to pass the first defining test of his tenure, Feldman said.
"This is not about defending these statements -- there's no way to defend these statements -- but it's about defending ownership interest in an NBA team and following the procedures that are in the Constitution and By-laws," Feldman said. "That's both to protect the other owners' interests in their own teams but also to protect the league and the commissioner from legal attack from Donald Sterling. If they tried to overreach or tried to expand the interpretation or the breadth of the commissioner's powers or the Board of Governors' powers, that's likely going to lead to a lawsuit. And a lawsuit is a lose-lose for the league here."
Though the NBA's by-laws never have been made publicly available in their entirety, Feldman's familiarity with the legal structure of pro sports leagues causes him to focus on a key phrase governing the behavior of all participants: "conduct that is materially detrimental or materially prejudicial to the best interests of the team or the league." The commissioner has broad discretion in punishing such behavior, though Feldman believes there is a $1 million cap on fines.
"My educated guess is, we'll see a fairly lengthy suspension and a hefty fine," Feldman said. "But the commissioner has tremendous discretion to choose how hefty the fine will be and how long the suspension will be. And given that we don't have much precedent to guide us here, it's very hard to gauge the severity of the discipline."
To avoid a messy, expensive and public legal battle, Feldman said it's likely Silver would reach some sort of agreement with Sterling on any discipline he decides to issue.
"Given that the rules governing this situation are private, one would think that the league would want the suspension and the terms of the suspension and all the details to remain private as well," Feldman said. "And privacy is gone if it ends up in federal court."
As for the notion of a forced sale, Feldman said sports leagues specifically reserve such severe punishment for narrowly defined instances, such as game-fixing or financial inability to operate the team. Legally, Silver would not be able to apply that clause and the one dealing with "conduct detrimental or prejudicial." He'd have to pick one or the other.
"When you have a specific provision that delineates acceptable punishment for conduct detrimental or prejudicial, it's then difficult to argue that a broad provision controls a specific," Feldman said. "In contract law, it's the opposite. The specific trumps the general. And here we have a specific provision that seems to have been intended to deal with these types of situations. And to then say that this is such a drastic example of this situation that we have to go beyond this clause is sort of a dangerous precedent to set.
"Even if you are an owner who is unhappy with these comments, you have to be wary of a broad interpretation of the commissioner's power being used against you -- or a broad interpretation of the Board of Governors' power being used against you -- in a future situation. Particularly in a case like this, where this was a private comment."
That's the other legal challenge facing Silver, Feldman said: If the comments are authenticated and determined to have been Sterling's, they nonetheless were made in a private conversation that may not have been recorded with his consent.
"There's no question that the comments are unacceptable and abhorrent, but the issue becomes more complicated because these were not publicly made statements," Feldman said. "We all know that doesn't excuse the statements, but it does raise some questions about whether this is the type of conduct that the owners intended the commissioner to punish for. ... At the end of the day, whether these comments were made publicly, privately, or were being recorded with or without his knowledge, I think you can make a strong argument that the statements clearly are prejudicial to the league and some discipline is warranted."
Whatever the outcome in the short term, Feldman said the ultimate determination on Sterling's ownership of the Clippers might be economic in nature, as well as legal. Already, a lengthy list of some of the team's biggest and most lucrative sponsors have ceased or suspended marketing relationships with the team. If revenue streams are cut off and players and coaches do not want to be employed by the team, that might lead to Sterling being unable to financially operate it in a manner that is in the best interests of the NBA.
"Whether that's a combination of pressure from the other owners, from the players, the players' association, the sponsors, the fans, potentially that might be enough economic pressure to make financial sense for Sterling to sell," Feldman said. "... I think certainly that type of pressure might be enough, but it might have to come from all angles. And it looks like it might be coming from all angles already."
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I guess that I'm confused here. I've never followed sports, so the intricacies are probably evading me, but why would anyone think that the league should be able to punish an owner for being a certifiable dick, but not doing anything damaging to the league itself? It seems to me that this would be well beyond the purview of the game, and if the fans find it offensive enough, they should boycott the team's games. It seems like an odd cause & effect to me.
Only way to hurt these rich racist fucks is to hurt their pockets .....stop going to games and buying Clippers merchandise!
The guy is a racist ,there is no misinterpreting his words. I don't think taking things from other people in the form of money or ownership because we dislike what they say ,makes any sense. But if that's in his contract then he should have known better. Boycotting the guy's franchise is the proper route to take.
But on the other hand there are people who play sports and murder other people and people are less outraged. Some even wind up playing again like that dude on the ravens.
But on the other hand there are people who play sports and murder other people and people are less outraged. Some even wind up playing again like that dude on the ravens.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar has some of the most sane commentary that I've read about this -
http://time.com/79590/donald-sterling-kareem-abdul-jabbar-racism/
http://time.com/79590/donald-sterling-kareem-abdul-jabbar-racism/
He's being suspended indefinitely with a 5 million dollar fine (which is nothing to him) press conference starts in a few mins they'll be announcing it
I don't see how they can legally take the franchise away from him for being an asshole. Not sure what a suspension of an owner entails. Maybe can't go to the games or be involved.
Undoubtlly he's a moronic bigot, but the market should take care of this hopefully. I feel for Doc Rivers having to juggle all this shit in the midst of the playoffs.
Sponsors have dropped him, if people boycott it will hit him in the only place it matters. His wallet.
Definitely another douche with more money than brains.
Undoubtlly he's a moronic bigot, but the market should take care of this hopefully. I feel for Doc Rivers having to juggle all this shit in the midst of the playoffs.
Sponsors have dropped him, if people boycott it will hit him in the only place it matters. His wallet.
Definitely another douche with more money than brains.
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OGShaman
I'm pretty sure there is some governing board of the NBA that can force him to sell the team. I could be wrong though.
Deeeezzzzam lifetime ban
