does this look like broad mite damage?

[Green Pastures]

Nope, it's not, and besides, diagnosing pest damage without seeing pests or their eggs is never a smart thing to do. Henceforth there have been no eggs seen. They are easy to spot.

Since you have bm damage I recommend the following: wettable sulfur thru atomizer up to wk 1-2 of flower [no trichs], buildasoils essential mix atomized, these two are proven to work, I take it a step further and use pfr-97 even though my rh does not exceed 65%. I spray almost daily, now every 2. You could add neem oil to this regimen and it's still all organic. I also ordered a. swirskii a predatory mite to clean up the rest. Good luck dude.

Hey, I do appreciate sharing your regiment. I am trying to get some eof that PFR 97, I actually met with the rep here in SoCal today. He deals with giant customers so I couldn't get any from him. I am going to implement a strong IPM as a result of this horrible affliction. Thanks!

 

[_tessarecting]

Your pics are for sure bms. Get the essential oil too. You can get pfr from 7 springs

 

[Green Pastures]

You mean that buildasoil essential mix? I'll check into that ASAP. I need them gone without resorting to chemicals. I will use Plasma neem as well.

 

[_tessarecting]

Yes. Do the above and you will keep them in check. Rotate sprays daily for like a week then every two days etc, its what I did and they are flourishing now.

 

[TheCatsMeow]

Ok, so if you've ran the genetic before in the same medium, nutes, etc...and this never happened before, then I'd bet a dollar it's BMs. Here are some pics I just took the time to upload especially to show ya. I do hope it helps, I started my treatment, I am actually about a week into flower as well. the pics I uploaded are not those plants. They don't look exactly like yours, but they did before I took these pics. They looked burnt up, that was my first symptom I started treating as a nute burn.

I hit the new growth with wettable sulfur yesterday, then used Met52, which is a bio that can be used until day of harvest, and can also be considered a part of an IPM routine, so no harm if it comes up that you don't have the BM. I still think you do, given you've ran the same set up before with no issue.

yeah my plants don't look like that. id be curious to see your plants right now and this isn't the same exact set up. I've doubled the lights and these plants in general were stressed before getting transplanted a couple weeks ago
def dealing with some hot spots in the room as i run open hooded 1000watts

 

[TheCatsMeow]

Yes. Do the above and you will keep them in check. Rotate sprays daily for like a week then every two days etc, its what I did and they are flourishing now.

do you have any before and after pictures?

 

[_tessarecting]

In my mind I do...my memory is very good.
Right now I see zero damage on my plants after a 4 month battle.

 

[Timm]

in flower with plants looking like that you're better of just restarting.. same with green pastures plants

In flower you will never eradicate them. It's hard enough in veg without using dangerous chems

 

[_tessarecting]

I would toss green pastures for sure. With proper care ops should bounce back but did take a hit. If you follow my ipm regemin above you can eradicate them in flower without toxic chems. Organics work way better.

There is a point though when they've done too much damage. That's when you know as a farmer you need to step up your game. I've lost probably 80 in the past 4 months learning how to deal with them and cant see ever losing another one with how well this treatment works.

My garden went from looking like half eaten salad to looking like nothing ever happened in a week.

 

[TheCatsMeow]

I would toss green pastures for sure. With proper care ops should bounce back but did take a hit. If you follow my ipm regemin above you can eradicate them in flower without toxic chems. Organics work way better.

There is a point though when they've done too much damage. That's when you know as a farmer you need to step up your game. I've lost probably 80 in the past 4 months learning how to deal with them and cant see ever losing another one with how well this treatment works.

My garden went from looking like half eaten salad to looking like nothing ever happened in a week.

STARTING TO THINK THIS IS NOT BMs

I recently started using ful power from bio AG

ive been using this in every watering and ultimately i believe the plants became locked out/torched instantly over night

once i transitioned the girls from the veg room to the flower and turned on the 1k's i noticed the problem flair up and still continued to use the ful power without connecting the dots

 

[_tessarecting]

Dude... you need to stop thinking and start knowing...

 

[TheCatsMeow]

Dude... you need to stop thinking and start knowing...

please stay out of my thread going forward. you are no where near as helpful as you think

 

[_tessarecting]

Suit yourself but guessing isn't going to solve your problems. Good luck.

 

[Thcvhunter]

Fulvic acid locking up all the binding sites of the roots woul look different - more like a lockout.

Keep your RH up until you get a 100x scope.

The pics that other member posted look more like Russet Mites than Broad Mites. Remember that there are three - Cyclamen, Broad, and Russet. Each different with different toxicities to the plant and different pest management practices needed.

Broad mites give a glimmering sheen to the leaves - thats the effect of the poison from BM.
Russet Mites give a curled edge to the leaves - thats from the RM poisons.

So get a 100x loupe/scope and learn to distinguish a broad from a cyclamen mite. Even if this is not mites, you need to be ready for when they do come.

 

[TheCatsMeow]

Fulvic acid locking up all the binding sites of the roots woul look different - more like a lockout.

Keep your RH up until you get a 100x scope.

The pics that other member posted look more like Russet Mites than Broad Mites. Remember that there are three - Cyclamen, Broad, and Russet. Each different with different toxicities to the plant and different pest management practices needed.

Broad mites give a glimmering sheen to the leaves - thats the effect of the poison from BM.
Russet Mites give a curled edge to the leaves - thats from the RM poisons.

So get a 100x loupe/scope and learn to distinguish a broad from a cyclamen mite. Even if this is not mites, you need to be ready for when they do come.

i have a 100x scope but the led light is not very bright. i have a new 100x scope to try out tonight when i get home

im really thinking its some kind of light shock accompanied by over use of full power a strong pk spike at beginning of bloom and boom-
there plants def got stunted and rocked but im feeling a little more confident that its not broads

 

[Thcvhunter]

Oh yea, if youre boosting with PK that Phos can bind up a lot of the Ca in the soil, causing weak well walls in your plant.

 

[Corpsey]

I remember coot saying not to give fulvic every watering, that it might give you some twisted growth.

Maybe start with that and see where you are at. Good luck

 

[TheCatsMeow]

I remember coot saying not to give fulvic every watering, that it might give you some twisted growth.

Maybe start with that and see where you are at. Good luck

thats the new plan. This whole thing sucks. I havent changed anything in my grow for almost 1&1/2years and it was working so well but live and learn i guess.

Oh yea, if youre boosting with PK that Phos can bind up a lot of the Ca in the soil, causing weak well walls in your plant.

weak cell walls would cause the curling??

i cant find any pictures on the internet that look quite like mine but i have some true "ram horns"