Does anybody understand Can-Filters retarded specs?

[greenhead]

What kind of crack do you have to smoke to understand Can-Filter's totally retarded, confusing and useless specs?

Why the fuck do they insist on using M3h, when virtually everybody else in the entire world uses CFM?

I was looking at the Can Filter 2600. The specs are as follows -

Max cfm: 42/71m³h @ 0.1 sec contact time (IS THAT RETARDED OR WHAT?)

I see quite a few hydro stores that have this 2600 filter listed as 94 CFM. Ok, that's fine, that's an understandable figure that makes sense when matching it up with fans, but where did that figure of 94 CFM come from? I tried a few online conversion sites to convert m3h to CFM and 71m3h comes out to 24.7 CFM.

Hey Can-Filter, get your Canadian heads out of your asses, stop smoking that crack and just list your fucking specs in CFM like everybody else.
Capiche?

 

[G33k Speak]

they should do it like Garanimals... have the matching symbol on the fan and the scrubber..

"I need a scrubber"

" what kind of fan???"

"purple dinosaur"

"Find the scrubber with the purple dinosaur sticker and they'll match"

 

[zymos]

Another anti-Metric system rant...?

 

[greenhead]

Another anti-Metric system rant...?

No, it is an anti-retard rant, because any fan or filter manufacturer who doesn't list their shit in CFM's is totally retarded.

In the civilized world, fans and filters are listed in CFM's. In retardo land, maybe 17 people might use m3h, but that would be their fucking problem. Even in many "metric" countries, CFM's are what is used when it comes to describing fans and filters.

Don't you see how stupid it is for a manufacturer to answer the question how many CFM's (Cubic fucking feet per minute) does your product have - and then answer that question in m3h?

If you ask me how many meters tall I am, I'm not going to answer that question in feet, now am I? The Can-Filter people probably would.

They make good filters by the way, I've got one, but their spec system is totally retarded and serves no good purpose for anybody who is looking to match their filters with a proper fan. I don't exactly see too many fans listed with m3h, so get with the program Can-Filter, fuck that m3h crap, and list all your shit in CFM. Join the civilized world.

 

[FreezerBoy]

Any manufacturer that uses CFM should be shot! Theres NO excuse for using feet as a measurement. NONE!

 

[greenhead]

Any manufacturer that uses CFM should be shot! Theres NO excuse for using feet as a measurement. NONE!

That would probably be like 90% of them then. It's better to shoot the 10% or whatever that cling on to that m3h crap. It might even be less than 10%. All I know is that when I look for fans, they're almost always listed in CFM, not some other crap.

 

[FreezerBoy]

The days of inches, feet, yards and other forms of meaningless nonsense is past. Feet is to disance and volume what PPM is to EC; Goobledygook. 12 inches to a foot, 3 feet to a yard, 5280 feet in a mile? Who was the insane idiot that came up with that crap? More importantly, what was he smoking and where can we get some?

Is there anywhere but America that uses that stuff anymore? Metric means something. Spain and France were at war when the measuring went down and actually stopped the war long enough for the measuring team to walk off the distance through Spain. Without lasers or satellites, they missed the distance from the pole to the Equator by maybe a hair.

You and I are victims of our childhood. The lies we were taught are legion. Just as we have rejected our elders War on Drugs, it's time we reject feet as a measurement.

 

[greenhead]

Is there anywhere but America that uses that stuff anymore?

Across the world, most people use whatever the accepted standard is, regardless if it's metric or not. For example, in the US, some coke bottles are two liters, we don't say "I'm going to the store so that I can buy a 67.6 FL OZ bottle of coke."

When it comes to fans and filters, it seems as if CFM is the worldwide standard, besides a few weird and strange people who confuse things and list some of their products only in m3h. It's not about Metric VS. anything else, it's about using whatever is the main standard.

There's people on this forum from all over the world, do you ever see many people talking about fans and m3h? Hell no.

 

[FreezerBoy]

:friends:
Just to be clear, we're simply a couple of i-Buddies talking smack over a beer on our virtual porches. Nuthin personal. right?

How many Microsoft engineers does it take to change a lightbulb? 12,947. They hold a conference and re-define darkness as the standard.

The world is full of former standards. Things that, to an enlightened society, seem the height of insanity. Give it a few more years and feet will be gone forever. Sucks being an old dog in a world of new tricks but, this one's good for us.

 

[greenhead]

:friends:
Just to be clear, we're simply a couple of i-Buddies talking smack over a beer on our virtual porches. Nuthin personal. right?

I'm not a big beer drinker, I'm just sitting on my virtual porch with a small bong in my hand, and of course it's nothing personal, no reason to get all worked up over fans and carbon filters, lol.

How many Microsoft engineers does it take to change a lightbulb? 12,947. They hold a conference and re-define darkness as the standard.

The world is full of former standards. Things that, to an enlightened society, seem the height of insanity. Give it a few more years and feet will be gone forever. Sucks being an old dog in a world of new tricks but, this one's good for us.

I agree that certain standards sometimes can change, but I just don't see that happening for fans anytime soon. The big Japanese companies still use CFM, and a small Canadian company using m3h is not going to change anything at all IMO, besides causing confusion surrounding their products.

 

[bounty29]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Metric_system.png

The countries in red are the countries that don't use the metric system.

 

[greenhead]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Metric_system.png

The countries in red are the countries that don't use the metric system.

Not entirely true. The metric system is used very often in the US, but it's true that it's one of the few countries in the world that hasn't made it their official system. That doesn't change the fact that not many people use m3h (doesn't matter where you are in the world), and that's the main point I was trying to make about Can-Filter's strange specs.

 

[sarek]

IF a company has ONE person that graduated middle school in their marketing department, they would have the fans specs in BOTH METRIC AND ENGLISH! So my guess is that many of these companies in this industry have incredibly lazy and retarded marketing people. I would actually guess their marketing dept is the sales dept and cust service all together and its the owners wife. Who is busy buying shoes.

Probably a good business plan for an entrpreneur out there is to contact hydro industry companies and offer to convert metric to US for the math impaired.

It is not which is better its that your customers use both and you should do stuff to make your customers do better.

 

[greenhead]

It is not which is better its that your customers use both and you should do stuff to make your customers do better.

Exactly, and I bet that the overwhelming majority of their customers use CFM, so that makes their specs even more retarded.

 

[bounty29]

Not entirely true. The metric system is used very often in the US, but it's true that it's one of the few countries in the world that hasn't made it their official system. That doesn't change the fact that not many people use m3h (doesn't matter where you are in the world), and that's the main point I was trying to make about Can-Filter's strange specs.

lol where the hell do you live in the US?

Besides 2 liter bottles of soda, where is metric commonly used? I bet you over 90% of the population doesn't know the metric system.

 

[greenhead]

lol where the hell do you live in the US?

Besides 2 liter bottles of soda, where is metric commonly used? I bet you over 90% of the population doesn't know the metric system.

Well, there's the soda thing lol.

What about weed? I remember buying small bags of weed which were 2.5 grams before.

What about computer fans? They're all listed in millimeters, like 80,92,100,120 etc.

Even if you live in a "metric" country, Can-Filter's specs are confusing, because most fans are listed in CFM, even in "metric" countries, so either way, Can-Filter is wrong for not listing all of their products in CFM, IMO.

 

[PharmaCan]

Wow, so many divergent views yet everyone is right.

To solve your immediate problem, greenhead, there are 35.3 cu. ft. per cubic meter so, assuming the filter spec is 71m3h, 35.3 X 71 / 60 = 41.77 cfm.

Good thread though, I got a laugh from a couple of your rants.

PC

 

[greenhead]

To solve your immediate problem, greenhead, there are 35.3 cu. ft. per cubic meter so, assuming the filter spec is 71m3h, 35.3 X 71 / 60 = 41.77 cfm.

PC

Thanks for the reply.

Now the strange thing is, if 41.77 CFM is correct for that particular filter, then why do many hydro stores list it as 94 CFM? Are you wrong? Are they wrong? I was wondering how they arrived at their figure. It would be a lot easier if those stubborn and strange Canadians at Can-Filter just listed their specs in CFM from the getgo, that's all I was trying to say with this thread, lol.

 

[FreezerBoy]

I'm not a big beer drinker

Now I know we're cool. I can't stand the stuff. I figured I could survive a virtual toast.

I bet you over 90% of the population doesn't know the metric system.

Anyone that maintains a non-american vehicle or appliance has a grasp on the subject if not familiarity. But, yeah, we're feet folk over here.

I admit, I'm conditioned to inches, etc. The conversion is a struggle for me. I'm just in the camp that feels metric is the future.

 

[pHaroaH]

I have had to use both systems and a system that is based on ten is much easier to use. IMHO everyone should be on the metric system.

However, I would also say that it seems like common sense for a manufacturer to indicate product specifications in the units commonly used in the area they are marketing in.