Doctor said yes to medical permission

[nightcrawler]

Hey everyone.

Ive found a doctor that is willing to sign my papers to posses/grow.

Heres my background;

No criminal record for starters.(not even a traffic ticket)

Heres my full story

-(1999) i was diagnosed with ulsrative colitis on my 13th birthday.
- tried many pills/steroids/other stuff
-- the pills made me feel like i had arthritis. There were some days i wasnt able to move my knee joints or they'd hurt soooo much, ther was no way of bending completly thats for sure! The pain would come and go. Usually after gym classes, by the time i got home, i would be stuck in bed for 3 - 4 days straight. taking a dump was almost impossible i would literally just end up falling backwards on the toilet and both my legs go straight in the air, so that i would bend them to cause pain.

-(2004) Pains still coming and going. High school just finished, and for me completing high school was amazing, some of my friends smoked weed at the time, i didnt. So, i told them since were done let me try it. nothing really the first time. smoked again a few days later, and i felt great.

oh and btw, for the last 5 years almost every shit i had was liquid diareha and i was going about 4 times a day.(most 22 times!)

-(2004Summer)After smoking for a few weeks(maybe 6 weeks) i noticed a huge change. I then said fuck the pills im on a full weed regiment.

-(2008) Ive been to many different doctors to try and sign my papers. NOTHING.

-(2009winter) I find a regular health doctor online that had something to do with weed. So, i made an appointment.

1st time@docs - I mention to him that i smoke. he talks about calm.

4weeks later 2nd time@docs - I get the permission from the doctor to get into calm

4months later 3rd time@docs - we talk about setting me up to grow, i take a drug test(which i only do weed)

3weeks later 4th time@docs - then tells me i need a photo id + $$$ (drug test came back but we never discussed them, which will come back positive for weed but nothing else)

Now its today, and i need to make an appointment.

OH... Did i ever get back to you about my shits? Well, im only taking one shit a day, and there perfectly fine now, unless a weekend of lots of booze.

Weeds the perfect drug for me.


NO PILLS. NO PAIN. NO PROBLEMS!!!!!!! GIVE ME MY WEED (extra BIG)PLEASE(extra BIG)


peace out
NC

 

[Flippy]

Hey Night, that's great that you found a doctor to sign your papers, now you will be able to smoke and grow safely. I wish people could be so open minded about weed in my country.

 

[nightcrawler]

took me over 3 years to find a doctor that would sign

 

[johnny butt]

Do the happy dance for turd consistency

Congrats on your med card bro.

 

[jarff]

Congrats on the liscense....
Working on mine...hafta to go to pain clinic then my doc may sign me up..here,s hoping.
jarff

 

[nightcrawler]

thanks dude.

Just sending my papers off tonight actually.

My doctor already sent his side of the forums off last week. I know there supposed to be together, to make it easier, but what can u do....

So im guessing ill have to wait like 10 weeks from now. so sadddd

Peace
NC

 

[Massproducer]

So do you have a GP and a specialist's report/recommendation? You will require both. Good luck

 

[nightcrawler]

So do you have a GP and a specialist's report/recommendation? You will require both. Good luck

They have changed the law.

All you need is your regular health doctor to sign. PERIOD.

He(regular health doctor) will need:

A specialst saying you have a disease (mine is ulsrative colitis)

2 passport photos

He (regular health doctor) signs the papers saying medical cannabis is the best treatment for you.

wait like 10 weeks.
(i am just about to send my side of the papers off, my doctor already sent his side. oh btw my side of the papers are...

damn i cant find them on the health canada website... but its basicaly a part where i say i want to grow, inside or outside, or outside in the summer and inside in the winter. i choose inside all year long.

then my parents need to sign it, cause im living with them right now(if u were living at a condo, all u need to do is ask your superindent get permission, then ur good.

i think thats all.

 

[Massproducer]

So you are saying then that you have a specialists report??? If you are saying that you have confirmation from a specialist of your condition, that is called a report... Also they don't just have to state that you have something but also what other more conventional treatments you have tried that have failed. " Under Category 2, persons with debilitating symptoms can apply to obtain an Authorization to Possess dried marihuana for medical purposes, if a specialist confirms the diagnosis and that conventional treatments have failed or judged inappropriate to relieve symptoms of the medical condition. While an assessment of the applicant's case by a specialist is required, the treating physician, whether or not a specialist, can sign the medical declaration.

So you basically have to exhausted all conventional treatment THEY deem acceptable in your case, which is why it make a huge difference if your specialist, who is your treating physician for that perticular ailment, is on board with medical cannabis.

I started 4 years ago under cat 2 for chronic pain and fibromyalgia but have since changed my status 2 years ago during my renewal with my diagnosis of MS.

 

[apartmentblower]

Under Category 2, persons with debilitating symptoms can apply to obtain an Authorization to Possess dried marihuana for medical purposes, if a specialist confirms the diagnosis and that conventional treatments have failed or judged inappropriate to relieve symptoms of the medical condition.

You don't have to try every pharma drug under the sun or even try one before you can judge it inappropriate. for my condition the pharmaceutical substances which doctors recommend are toxic and have lots of side-effects. I will not use them under any circumstances not even to try out. "or judged inappropriate" is the key phrase here

 

[apartmentblower]

They have changed the law.

All you need is your regular health doctor to sign. PERIOD.

Yes but for cat 2 you still need to see a specialist and the specialist can sign for you if you want them to

 

[Massproducer]

I did not say that you have to try every drug under the sun, I said that you must have tried all conventional therapy's DEEMED appropriate... I also never said that you had to try a drug for it to be deemed inapproriate, this would obviously be done before the drug is administered... But to say that all conventional drugs are deemed inappropriate and as such you don't have to try any is not true. Also by the way it is not you who deem the drug inappropriate, it is your specialist or whoever the treating physician for that perticular condition is...
Are you licenesed because I find it hard to believe that the Canadian College of physicians approved an application that would have to state that "the patient refuses ANY other medications which he/she deems as toxic"

You don't have to try every pharma drug under the sun or even try one before you can judge it inappropriate. for my condition the pharmaceutical substances which doctors recommend are toxic and have lots of side-effects. I will not use them under any circumstances not even to try out. "or judged inappropriate" is the key phrase here

 

[Massproducer]

And what law changed??? The only law I know of being recently amended has been to allow DG's to grow for more exemptees.

 

[apartmentblower]

But to say that all conventional drugs are deemed inappropriate and as such you don't have to try any is not true. Also by the way it is not you who deem the drug inappropriate, it is your specialist or whoever the treating physician for that perticular condition is...

what you are saying contradicts all of the useful information out there on getting through the bureaucracy of the MMAR registration forms. just b/c you had to endure a particular route to getting your forms which meant using a pharma drug for awhile proves only that your doctor wasn't familiar with your right to register as a canadian citizen who uses cannabis medicinally . just b/c doctors force you to go about it in a harder way doesnt make them right


the canadian colllege of physicians???? only my GP or specialist has to sign the form and then health canada processes it. where does the canadian college of physicians as a group come into this

 

[nightcrawler]

i do have a report from my ulsrative colitis doctor saying i have ulsrative colitis. I brought that note/report to my regular health doctor. He looked it over, saw that i have tried a few different drugs. none worked. so i got him to sign the paper.

 

[ParadigmShift]

the canadian colllege of physicians???? only my GP or specialist has to sign the form and then health canada processes it. where does the canadian college of physicians as a group come into this

They get involved by verifying that your specialist/GP are in good standing and are approved to sign for controlled substances.
Someone earlier here mentioned that it's not a prescription getting filled. I can tell you for certain, that if your Dr can not prescribe controlled substances they can not sign your application form.
We had our specialist sign the forms, 4 months later still no news from HC.
We got our MP involved and we were told by the College of Physicans that our specialist at the time was suspended from prescribing controlled substances, because his controlled substances privileges were being reviewed.
My GP was able to fill and sign the new forms, because my specialist was aware of my condition and my choice of treatment.

 

[apartmentblower]

our specialist at the time was suspended from prescribing controlled substances, because his controlled substances privileges were being reviewed.

ok, that makes sense, and you can add that to the short list of reasons why HC would not rubber stamp a form (i.e. messing up an application, doctor not eligible to sign forms).

i guess what im trying to say is that HC is only supposed to be a double-checker and rubber-stamper. they arent supposed to have any say in wether u get registered or not beyond those administrative reasons

HC officials have contradicted themselves by calling cannabis both a prescription drug and then the same person says it is not a prescription drug weeks later. but it still stands that the MMAR forms are merely registration forms. There is some talk on a legal-focused cannabis forum about challenging HC's requirements to re-register annually as HC doesn't have a concrete position on the matter. as it stands it seems the forms are merely for registration. the fact that ur GP has to be eligible to prescribe drugs is obviously true but the MMAR program itself isn't a prescrip in the technical sense. just one of the many flaws of the program

But to say that all conventional drugs are deemed inappropriate and as such you don't have to try any is not true.

i disagree with the above and will prove it wrong once i get my card. ive tried some conventional treatments, less than u can count on one hand, and ive done my research into the further alternatives and doctor recommended prescription drugs. my GP tells me to research the drug myself before I choose to use it. im lucky that i have an understanding physician that knows that i have the right to choose what kind of medicine i use. he merely gives me advice and reccomendations and if there is something he doesnt know about like cannabis he is open to learning about it and me supporting my claim to right to use it as medicine. there is no law saying i have to try all or even any pharma drug before using cannabis. YMMV with your own GP. its insulting to my personal freedom that any person or agency would think it has the right to legislate what kind of legal (for this discussion) treatment i choose to pursue.


anyways i didnt want my tone to sound argumentative im merely relaying my understanding of the program which I believe to be right as opposed to the popular view that the MMAR program is only for the dying and seriously ill that seems to be the idea followed by many users and doctors. this is the reason less than 5k people are registered when over 500,000 were promised

 

[apartmentblower]

And what law changed??? The only law I know of being recently amended has been to allow DG's to grow for more exemptees.

He is referring to the creation of cat 2 years ago. the way he worded it made it sound like it was a recent change

 

[ParadigmShift]

the fact that ur GP has to be eligible to prescribe drugs is obviously true but the MMAR program itself isn't a prescrip in the technical sense. just one of the many flaws of the program

Agreed

i disagree with the above and will prove it wrong once i get my card.

I also agree...I simply told my specialist that cannabis has been treating me just fine all these years and that I have absolutely no interest in trying anyother alternative treatment.
That was my answer on the forms.
When my MP, the college of physicions and I spoke on the phone, after clearing everything up. My next question to them was exactly that, will I have any more trouble with my application because of my refusal to try any alternative treatment, they assured me that I would not.

 

[Massproducer]

Health Canada does not approve applications per say it is the college of physicians that actually verifies the information and approves or denies applications. Health Canada is made up of civil servants which 99% are not doctors, Call HC they will tell you that they send all applications to the college of physicians to approve applications. health Canada administers the program but in all actuality has very little to do with any of the programs actual facets, which you will learn if you are approved...

I do however find it funny arguing with people regarding MMAR who are not licensed. The facts are that it is very hard to obtain a MMAD exemption unless you have AIDS, MS, Cancer or a servre for of Arthritis. Infact there are today under 5000 licensed MMAD patients Nationally and just slightly over 2100 licensed to actually produce their own medicine. So out of a population of over 30 million, 5000 are lincensed to posses and 2100 are licensed to produce... Check the statistics on the number of applications that HC recieves everyday, then put that all in prospective