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Do You Get CHS Symptoms from Neem/Aza? Which do you get, Diarreah or Constipation??
- Thread starter Douglas.Curtis
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capsaicin works hepatically, i just love all this speculation in here, its harry potter ridiculous
I posted 2 different medical scientific studies. With simply googling you can even find many more (case)studies.
I don't understand why you would call this speculation.
Did you even bother to read them?
Lyfespan
Active member
it is speculation and theory till totally examined, which it has not been. still way tooo many variables, and not enough definitive studies actually isolating issue and cause.
while people might have issues, they do not know the actual cause, they know symptoms, and coincidences, both of which only mean that there needs to be an actually study and conclusion done.
until then im pointing out more coincidences and related issues.
Why should we look this up? What is the correlation with all these post with CHS and also why you claim that capsaicin doesn't provide relief and even call it speculation when there are several clinical (case)studies -which I have posted 2 of- that shows it does.
Please post your point and the referenced studies.
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It's clearly written in my second post (this one: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=8554590&postcount=37) why topical capsaicin application is the preferred treatment method above oral application.
Below is a snippet from the study I posted, as it's clear that you didn't even bother reading them or even looking into the subject and other casestudies yourself.
TRPV1 agonists such as topical capsaicin, which has a longer half-life than oral capsaicin, might augment TRPV1 activity and provide a less burdensome approach to treating CHS.
It's clearly written in my second post (this one: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=8554590&postcount=37) why topical capsaicin application is the preferred treatment method above oral application.
Below is a snippet from the study I posted, as it's clear that you didn't even bother reading them or even looking into the subject and other casestudies yourself.
TRPV1 agonists such as topical capsaicin, which has a longer half-life than oral capsaicin, might augment TRPV1 activity and provide a less burdensome approach to treating CHS.
Lyfespan
Active member
I have experienced no diarrhea with aza poisoning, only a slowing of digestion and constipation. My digestive system literally slows to a crawl and ends up with burps which smell like farts. Yeah, really pleasant when your digestive system backs up.
this line reads of classic hepatic issues. so leads me to ask
do you drink?
do you eat lots of spicy foods?
what types of fats are you mostly taking in?
are you older than 45?
do you have bipolar issues?
do you have heartburn or other digestive issues associated, like that EE
are you over weight?
drink grapefruit juice regularly?
taking antibiotics?
taking NSAIDS ?
taking ST john wart?
this line reads of classic hepatic issues. so leads me to ask
do you drink?
do you eat lots of spicy foods?
what types of fats are you mostly taking in?
are you older than 45?
do you have bipolar issues?
do you have heartburn or other digestive issues associated, like that EE
are you over weight?
drink grapefruit juice regularly?
taking antibiotics?
taking NSAIDS ?
taking ST john wart?
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
While I appreciate you trying to help, it isn't. The answer to all of your questions is no, except age. I was under 45 when I found out I have an issue with azadirachtin.
Please focus on diarrhea or constipation in this thread. There are PLENTY of other CHS/Azadirachtin threads for all of your speculation, which have nothing to do with this thread. Please post your speculations there.
Lyfespan
Active member
all of these things will either give or contribute to one or the other symptom
other functions of aza is to kill mucus producing florna in your digestive tract. it also creates an imbalance in candida in your guts
trust me Dougy..I am focused on shit in this thread...
So YOU have an issue with neem/aza...i can respect and empathise with that...but to tell dyed in the wool neem users with 30 + years growing/smoking experience that we are "poisoning" people...
Spread gossip and unproven individual experience as fact is just wrong....
Speculations followed up by science....
So YOU have an issue with neem/aza...i can respect and empathise with that...but to tell dyed in the wool neem users with 30 + years growing/smoking experience that we are "poisoning" people...
Spread gossip and unproven individual experience as fact is just wrong....
Speculations followed up by science....
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
Yes, everyone is aware this is a personal issue you have which has nothing to do with the thread.
Thank you for sharing.
Lyfespan
Active member
why are you just trying to be a dismissive dick? Are you better than the rest? not here buddy, you're not even better than yourself, so quit.
not getting the answers you seek, then put in a little more.
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
When you ask a specific question, and get the same pedantic behavior you've gotten in other threads... yet no information on the actual question...why are you just trying to be a dismissive dick? Are you better than the rest? not here buddy, you're not even better than yourself, so quit.
not getting the answers you seek, then put in a little more.
Yes, it tends to get frustrating. It's rather like hanging out on some of those *other* forums full of teen and pre-teens. You know, the kind of uneducated people who can't resist commenting useless information?
I'd like to see the stats on how many people read the first page and quit. It's disgusting garbage you guys are probably proud of. It doesn't make me wonder why no one else is posting in here.
Congrats.
Lyfespan
Active member
When you ask a specific question, and get the same pedantic behavior you've gotten in other threads... yet no information on the actual question...
Yes, it tends to get frustrating. It's rather like hanging out on some of those *other* forums full of teen and pre-teens. You know, the kind of uneducated people who can't resist commenting useless information?
I'd like to see the stats on how many people read the first page and quit. It's disgusting garbage you guys are probably proud of. It doesn't make me wonder why no one else is posting in here.
Congrats.
this post tells me, 2 things
1. stay out of teen drama
2. you're not thinking hard enough about this issue
i offered help and pertinent information to your condition. i do not believe in CH, i think its a very lazy diagnosis and extremely speculative.
if you think its directly related to aza or neem, then start researching and experimenting on yourself, i seriously suggest you document the variables your tracking as well. have fun. you lost my interest.
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
1. I stay off websites with *more* drama than icmag, there's already more here than I care to put up with. I'm saying, other than the mucus info, you've been rather unhelpful with the question at hand.
2. I've spent quite a bit more time than most on this issue. I assure you've I've spent several years tracking this and have done my own experimentation to prove my theory. I get constipated from aza contaminated cannabis. The mucus reduction angle makes perfect sense in this regard. Thank you.
Wow. Thank you for sharing your viewpoint, it puts everything in perspective now.
Switcher56
Comfortably numb!
The fact remains there is no association to date to link the two. You need to take your meds and chill for a bit!
Although, "OFF SUBJECT" IYEO, the topic I am familiar with is CH with daily users.
Whether we want to admit it or not, the next generation has hit the streets. Folks "medicating", which is a daily occurrence and hence prone to CH (extended cannabis use "is" linked to CH). Is CH an unwanted side effect of daily consumption/medicine. Why are folks using marijuana? "We" profess there is no side effects associated to marijuana. OK! And your empirical data on the subject is...
I asked the Q to someone from the other side (recreational) what I am I supposed to do, quit medicating for 30 days, to some this is not an option.
Since Canada has legalized cannabis and the US is soon to follow (don't want to be outdone by the Canucks), more and more folks will be medicating. The folks talking here aren't 18 yr olds, them guys (18) are after the high, the higher the better. I doubt that (at that age) they can spend their days "wasted" and still be productive. (read daily use). But, for the folks that have been there and done that, what is the side effects of prolonged use of cannabis?
That is THE question? Not is CH associated with AZA or prolonged use. The entire matter is 2 different studies, minimum.
Now your highness to be on topic... I don't know! I'm a diabetic on metformin. Sometimes I am loose, and sometimes I am normal and, sometimes I can shit through he eye of a needle at 50 paces. Those are the effects of metformin. I medicate daily for neuropathy, diabetes and insomnia. Let's just say there has been no changes in my daily "experiences".
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
The question is ridiculously simple... Do you get CHS symptoms from aza/neem? If so, which do you get... diarrhea or constipation.
Any responses which are not covering this topic are off-topic. Thank you for sharing.
Switcher56
Comfortably numb!
I believe you are constipated as you sure seem full of it! There are folks that suffer from CHS and did not consume weed that was treated with Neem as they grow their own. I believe THEY know what they are talking about!
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